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Pharmer 01-23-2012 09:51 AM

Beware Driveway Painter
 
My wife and I had Roger and Patti (Professional Services Plus LLC) paint our lanai and garage floor on 12/24. They knocked on our door the previous day and gave us a quote which was reasonable.
They did a terrible job! Roger knew immediately that something was wrong and said that he would return in two days to take pics to submit to Lowes (the paint supplier) and that they would pay him to correct the mess. Of course he never came back nor will he return phone calls.
The paint was supposed to dry in a matter of hours but never has but after eight days I resorted to putting cardboard on the garage floor in order to get our car finally put away. It is now 30 days later and the floor is still tacky.
I should have known better as his business card does not have his last name nor an address. His invoice is nothing more than a pad of paper from Wal Mart
I would run the other way, if he knocks on your door even if he tells you that he has been doing business in The Villages for 20 years and that his grandfather was a good friend of Harold Schwartz.

natickdan 01-23-2012 10:11 AM

Thanks for sharing your experience and the warning!

Happinow 01-23-2012 10:14 AM

Scamer
 
Sorry you got taken! What a headache. Thank you for the warning. Hopefully things will get fixed soon.

BOMBERO 01-23-2012 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmer (Post 444205)
My wife and I had Roger and Patti (Professional Services Plus LLC) paint our lanai and garage floor on 12/24. They knocked on our door the previous day and gave us a quote which was reasonable.
They did a terrible job! Roger knew immediately that something was wrong and said that he would return in two days to take pics to submit to Lowes (the paint supplier) and that they would pay him to correct the mess. Of course he never came back nor will he return phone calls.
The paint was supposed to dry in a matter of hours but never has but after eight days I resorted to putting cardboard on the garage floor in order to get our car finally put away. It is now 30 days later and the floor is still tacky.
I should have known better as his business card does not have his last name nor an address. His invoice is nothing more than a pad of paper from Wal Mart
I would run the other way, if he knocks on your door even if he tells you that he has been doing business in The Villages for 20 years and that his grandfather was a good friend of Harold Schwartz.


'Don't confuse me with the facts; I'll make my own mistakes.'

Looks like you did. Don't do business with people that just knock on your door! You know what they say - You were looking for a good buy..... GOOD-BYE.

They'll keep knocking if they think 1 in 100 will say yes.:sad:

moose 01-23-2012 11:25 AM

It is not just driveway painters...this seems crazy but before you do business with people no matter how nice they seem....copy their drivers license so you have their correct address and not a post office box.

Never Never Never never give money before the job is done. Good businesses will not ask for money up front and check with
Crime vs Seniors and ask how many complaints they have current and in the past. Remember a complaint that is closed does not mean a happy customer just someone who was too tired to fight anymore.

Bryan 01-24-2012 05:19 AM

Moose gives some great advice.

On the good news side, I looked up Professional Services Plus LLC at the Florida Department of State and they are not a registered corporation or LLC in this state. Therefore, if you catch them, you can sue them.

I recommend you contact Seniors Vs Crime at either local sheriff's department for assistance. I'm not 100% sure but I think Patti ran another company locally called Home Services Plus.

66vetter 01-24-2012 08:30 AM

Sorry to hear about your situation. That same individual did not complete a neihgbor's job and she was out $500. She went to Seniors Against Crime and he has warrants out for his arrest for fraud.

All the work I have had done was businesses referred by at least two people on Talk Of The Villages and have been very satisfied.

ckirt 01-24-2012 05:21 PM

More about Roger and Patti
 
I am the person with the $500 that Roger took from me. Yup, too trusting and I never thought I would be "one of those old people" who would be scammed. I don't understand why Roger would need to be a scammer as he has talent and an eye for color. Wouldn't it be an amazing world if all the people who spent so much time figuring out how to scam and be rotten would actually funnel that into doing fine work? It would be awesome.

Happinow 01-24-2012 06:40 PM

Scam artist
 
Ummm. Must be something with that name. We have a business by us who's owners name is Roger. He's the king of scam....

jimlambert 01-27-2012 09:13 PM

Dan Wall and Preston Greenwood
 
Heres two names of other painters not to trust...Dan Wall and Preston Greenwood. We gave them a deposit December 14th and they haven't done the work yet. They have until next Friday or I'm filing fraud charges against them both. I sure learned my lesson!

jimlambert 01-29-2012 09:01 AM

Dan Wall and Preston Greenwood
 
Everybody stay away from danny wall and preston greenwood too. We gave them a ''deposit'' december 14th and the jobs still not done.

graciegirl 01-29-2012 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimlambert (Post 446097)
Heres two names of other painters not to trust...Dan Wall and Preston Greenwood. We gave them a deposit December 14th and they haven't done the work yet. They have until next Friday or I'm filing fraud charges against them both. I sure learned my lesson!

All three of your posts are the same. Please forgive me if I am wrong, but when I read all negative posts from the same person against the same contractor it makes me wonder.

I don't know know "Danny" as you call him or Preston either. And you have sewn seeds of doubt in my mind..but three posts on the same subject and no other posts at all really make me a little sceptical. Do you see where I am coming from?

Again, if I am wrong, I apologise. I would seek legal recourse in small claims court or check with Crimes Against Seniors.

I just have seen contractor bashing by other contractors who aren't doing so well on here.

jimlambert 02-01-2012 10:39 AM

professional services plus llc
 
Hey, thanks! We almost hired them! Thanks totv!

jimlambert 02-01-2012 12:24 PM

driveway painters
 
I just figured that I'd put in a weekly complaint about them for every week they dont show up. As a matter of fact I'm home waiting for them again right now. They said at 1010 am that they would be here in half an hour. That was two hours ago. I've been going through this since 12/14th...promises promises promises. they have until friday to finish the job. I'm not contractor bashing without a reason and this is the site to do it on.

gg 02-04-2012 10:27 AM

Nothing against Gracie Girl but this is the forum for letting people know contractors to beware of. You should check with Crimes against Seniors and ask how many complaints have been filed settled or unsettled.

I also am having trouble with a contractor and have not mentioned their names yet. It has been 2 months and I was comforted by knowing others were having the same problems and then all of a sudden all negative comments were removed from this board and only postive ones left. They also removed all posts and history of the people who were only trying to help others. I also lost my contacts with these people who were trying to help me.

I wrote administration twice and asked why this was done and the post was then locked with only positive comments. This forum is to help us from not getting taken.

natickdan 02-04-2012 11:15 AM

Hopefully, your contractor shows up today. If not, I would not allow them any more time or excuses and I would file a complaint with the Sheriff's office.

I'm not sure if it would help, but you may want to notify their insurance and, assuming they have it, their bond company to inform them of the legal action you may be taking. If nothing else, their rates may go up.

The majority of contractors are honest and hard working but, given the scams I have heard about, I would be suspicious of any contractor that required a deposit prior to starting work.

Good luck

Indydealmaker 02-04-2012 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gg (Post 448732)
Nothing against Gracie Girl but this is the forum for letting people know contractors to beware of. You should check with Crimes against Seniors and ask how many complaints have been filed settled or unsettled.

I also am having trouble with a contractor and have not mentioned their names yet. It has been 2 months and I was comforted by knowing others were having the same problems and then all of a sudden all negative comments were removed from this board and only postive ones left. They also removed all posts and history of the people who were only trying to help others. I also lost my contacts with these people who were trying to help me.

I wrote administration twice and asked why this was done and the post was then locked with only positive comments. This forum is to help us from not getting taken.

I wonder if the contractor to whom you are referring "suddenly" started advertising herein. I hope that is not the case because I believe that this forum should hold its advertisers to a very high standard due to the "community" aspect.

dillywho 02-04-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 446581)
All three of your posts are the same. Please forgive me if I am wrong, but when I read all negative posts from the same person against the same contractor it makes me wonder.

I don't know know "Danny" as you call him or Preston either. And you have sewn seeds of doubt in my mind..but three posts on the same subject and no other posts at all really make me a little sceptical. Do you see where I am coming from?

Again, if I am wrong, I apologise. I would seek legal recourse in small claims court or check with Crimes Against Seniors.

I just have seen contractor bashing by other contractors who aren't doing so well on here.

Gracie,

I know that most times you are pretty much right on, but not this time. The poster and his wife are friends of ours and lived right next to us before going to Tamarind. They finally got them out there yesterday. From December to February is pretty ridiculous. The couple's items in the garage and lanai were about to have more mileage from being moved in and out than their new golf cart every time the painters said that they would be there. The one positive is that the painters do nice work....when they do it.

The couple did not do enough homework (unfortunately) and have since found out that these painters have had charges filed against them in the past for the same thing. Gotta check before.

Happinow 02-04-2012 01:10 PM

Don't get scammed
 
IMHO if these painters haven't been there to complete the job yet I would file fraud charges. I don't care how good of a job they do. This is not how you treat your customers. When I'm in the position of hiring people to do jobs, I will up front let them know that I'm on TOTV and this forum may make or break you. Good word travels fast and bad word travels even faster. Ain't nobody taking advantage of me!!

dillywho 02-04-2012 04:51 PM

Another thought
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 448782)
IMHO if these painters haven't been there to complete the job yet I would file fraud charges. I don't care how good of a job they do. This is not how you treat your customers. When I'm in the position of hiring people to do jobs, I will up front let them know that I'm on TOTV and this forum may make or break you. Good word travels fast and bad word travels even faster. Ain't nobody taking advantage of me!!

Betcha they don't get the others again, either.

BTW, my son was telling me that a guy he works with got stung in Jacksonville by not knowing the law. If you contract to have a job done (his friend's was a new roof), do not let anyone offload the materials at your house without making sure they give you a bill of sale showing that the contractor has paid for the materials. If they contractor fails to pay the supplier for the materials, YOU have to pay or you can get a lien placed against your house by the supplier. That's what happened to the guy in Jax. Always get a copy of the paid material bill at the time of delivery to your house BEFORE they unload. If they don't have proof that the materials have been paid for, tell them to take them back until you can see proof.

graciegirl 02-04-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 448771)
Gracie,

I know that most times you are pretty much right on, but not this time. The poster and his wife are friends of ours and lived right next to us before going to Tamarind. They finally got them out there yesterday. From December to February is pretty ridiculous. The couple's items in the garage and lanai were about to have more mileage from being moved in and out than their new golf cart every time the painters said that they would be there. The one positive is that the painters do nice work....when they do it.

The couple did not do enough homework (unfortunately) and have since found out that these painters have had charges filed against them in the past for the same thing. Gotta check before.

I am sorry Dillywho. I jumped to that conclusion because this problem was the subject of ALL of his posts. All of you are right. This is the best place to let people know of good and bad work, but a few too many times, the competition comes on and disses a reliable contractor. I don't know how we can keep it straight but it does lend immediate credibility if we have heard from the poster before on varied subjects. On this forum with anyone being anyone they choose to be, even if they give a name, it is hard to sort it out sometimes.

Dilly. Please tell him I am sorry on all counts. For my jumping to that conclusion and questioning his validity and for his being ripped off by those dispicable folks..

Kindest wishes,
Gracie.

rubicon 02-04-2012 06:46 PM

A lot of helpful info here

Pharmer 03-19-2012 09:17 AM

It's now been nearly three months since our encounter with Roger and Patti and nothing has changed. We went to Seniors Vs Crime who called Roger. He actually picked up the phone; I'm sure it was due to the fact that caller ID showed Sheriff's Office. They gave the same song and dance to them and promised that they would be at our home in two days. Of course they were No Show! Now Roger won't answer any of the subsequent calls made by S vs C because of caller ID recognition.
Really dumb on our part!

graciegirl 03-19-2012 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmer (Post 468548)
It's now been nearly three months since our encounter with Roger and Patti and nothing has changed. We went to Seniors Vs Crime who called Roger. He actually picked up the phone; I'm sure it was due to the fact that caller ID showed Sheriff's Office. They gave the same song and dance to them and promised that they would be at our home in two days. Of course they were No Show! Now Roger won't answer any of the subsequent calls made by S vs C because of caller ID recognition.
Really dumb on our part!

Tell us all again WHO THEY ARE, What they look like, what they call themselves. They should not get one more ounce of business here after what they did to you.

buckscounty 03-19-2012 11:17 AM

Never take a person that just knocks on your door. You should know who you are hiring.

Irishmen 03-19-2012 03:15 PM

It's amazing How many guys watch a YouTube video or see it done on HGTv and all of a sudden their in business. Sorry about your luck OP.

Ohio RailGirl 05-12-2012 09:42 AM

This driveway painter is still operating in the Villages. He's left a number of customers with unfinished driveways, using water based paint, no clear coat on the driveways, water features that don't work right, unfinished brick work and splattered paint on houses. We hear he is now working the Sanibel area. If you google his name, Roger Greenlee, you will find several mug shots from his previous arrests.

AnnTony 05-30-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmer (Post 444205)
My wife and I had Roger and Patti (Professional Services Plus LLC) paint our lanai and garage floor on 12/24. They knocked on our door the previous day and gave us a quote which was reasonable.
They did a terrible job! Roger knew immediately that something was wrong and said that he would return in two days to take pics to submit to Lowes (the paint supplier) and that they would pay him to correct the mess. Of course he never came back nor will he return phone calls.
The paint was supposed to dry in a matter of hours but never has but after eight days I resorted to putting cardboard on the garage floor in order to get our car finally put away. It is now 30 days later and the floor is still tacky.
I should have known better as his business card does not have his last name nor an address. His invoice is nothing more than a pad of paper from Wal Mart
I would run the other way, if he knocks on your door even if he tells you that he has been doing business in The Villages for 20 years and that his grandfather was a good friend of Harold Schwartz.

Well. I hope you get some satisfaction -- Have you tried going to Crimes against seniors? I went today with a problem with Roger (see my thread) and at least they want to try to help recoup some. Don't know if it will work, but it's worth a try.
Ann

AnnTony 05-30-2012 06:46 PM

Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio RailGirl (Post 491553)
This driveway painter is still operating in the Villages. He's left a number of customers with unfinished driveways, using water based paint, no clear coat on the driveways, water features that don't work right, unfinished brick work and splattered paint on houses. We hear he is now working the Sanibel area. If you google his name, Roger Greenlee, you will find several mug shots from his previous arrests.

Gee, Guess you're from Crestview too...Didn't he also take money and run?

anlashokna 05-30-2012 06:56 PM

Wow sorry for you guys :( Yeah door to door always gets a leary eye and mostly the cards go into the recycle bin. Its sometimes just better to go through established companies (ie lowes etc) who will back up whatever there contractors do. We had a floor debacle up north and lowes came in and had it completely redone with the initial contracter they put on the job made a mess of it. There goal was to make it right. Just be very very careful and if it just seems to good to be true...dont do it. Best way with projects is to ask the contractor who there last local projects were. Go knock on a door yourself and ask the customer how they the job went. Best way to get the skinny.

AnnTony 05-30-2012 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimlambert (Post 446097)
Heres two names of other painters not to trust...Dan Wall and Preston Greenwood. We gave them a deposit December 14th and they haven't done the work yet. They have until next Friday or I'm filing fraud charges against them both. I sure learned my lesson!

Add Roger Greenlee to the list

Ohio RailGirl 05-30-2012 08:11 PM

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AnnTony 05-30-2012 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio RailGirl (Post 499402)
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Terry, what happened to your advice?

Villages PL 06-03-2012 04:58 PM

Some guy stopped at my house about 2 years ago and offered to "seal" my driveway, walkway and side patio for $100 dollars. I believe it would have been very thin (watered down?). And no preparation like pressure cleaning etc.. There's no way I would have had him do it. I politely refused.


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