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Posh 08 02-06-2012 03:16 PM

Any Chance That Golf Carts Could Be Banned?
 
Now with accident numbers being collected and maybe or maybe not golf cart accidents are on the rise. Will golf carts always be allowed on TV streets and paths?

MrMark 02-06-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 449602)
Now with accident numbers being collected and maybe or maybe not golf cart accidents are on the rise. Will golf carts always be allowed on TV streets and paths?

Of course they will. It's the nuts behind the wheel that should be banned!

Bogie Shooter 02-06-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 449602)
Now with accident numbers being collected and maybe or maybe not golf cart accidents are on the rise. Will golf carts always be allowed on TV streets and paths?

The HOA estimated there were 50,000 golf carts in the villages.........that should answer your question.

Posh 08 02-06-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 449604)
The HOA estimated there were 50,000 golf carts in the villages.........that should answer your question.

No it doesn't answer it. Please do. Will they be banned in the future because of accidents?

Bogie Shooter 02-06-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 449605)
No it doesn't answer it. Please do. Will they be banned in the future because of accidents?

No!

RichieLion 02-06-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 449605)
No it doesn't answer it. Please do. Will they be banned in the future because of accidents?

Ban the number 1 attraction and symbol of The Villages "life style"? You must be joking. That's never going to happen.

Posh 08 02-06-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RichieLion (Post 449611)
Ban the number 1 attraction and symbol of The Villages "life style"? You must be joking. That's never going to happen.

Not taking a stance one way or the other. But with data being collected it could open up some liability questions perhaps.

graciegirl 02-06-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 449613)
Not taking a stance one way or the other. But with data being collected it could open up some liability questions perhaps.

Posh.

I am trying to understand. The golf carts are owned by individuals. Who or what entity would be liable? The individual who is behind the wheel would be liable for harm to person, place or thing.

There are many car accidents across this country, but cars aren't banned.

The data being collected would be to make us aware of how and where many accidents happen, I would think and under what circumstances. But perhaps I am missing a valid point.

I am trying to remember if you have visited The Villages, Posh.

Bill-n-Brillo 02-06-2012 03:43 PM

Vehicle (car/truck) accidents, bus accidents, train accidents, airplane accidents, motorcycle accidents................things happen for a variety of reasons and under a variety of circumstances. The public and the gov't/controlling authorities are always looking for ways to reduce accidents but they will still happen. All of those modes of transportation still continue today and always will.

I can't believe it would ever be fathomable that golf cart use in TV would be eliminated.

Bill :)

Barefoot 02-06-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 449602)
Now with accident numbers being collected and maybe or maybe not golf cart accidents are on the rise. Will golf carts always be allowed on TV streets and paths?

:ohdear: Golf Carts will NOT be banned until Jetpaks are commonplace, that will allow us to individually fly everywhere. Hope there are no roundabouts in the sky.

Figmo Bohica 02-06-2012 03:47 PM

The carts don't need to be banned, but the drivers of carts need to be licensed, just like for autos. Seems that not one cart driver knows what STOP means or when or where you should just stop, like never stop in the lanes of travel, especially on a curve. Ban some drivers, its not the carts fault.

As you may know there is a cure for ignorance, but stupid has not cure.

Posh 08 02-06-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 449625)
:ohdear: Golf Carts will NOT be banned until Jetpaks are commonplace, that will allow us to individually fly everywhere. Hope there are no roundabouts in the sky.

I heard Segways mentioned on the Brownwood video. Didn't see any of those when we visited, bet we'll have a colony on the moon before we jetpaks in TV but I'll be first in line to try :a040:

Posh 08 02-06-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 449627)
The carts don't need to be banned, but the drivers of carts need to be licensed, just like for autos. Seems that not one cart driver knows what STOP means or when or where you should just stop, like never stop in the lanes of travel, especially on a curve. Ban some drivers, its not the carts fault.

As you may know there is a cure for ignorance, but stupid has not cure.

You can't fix stupid. I'm leaning your way with licensed carts etc. Some more regs of some sort.

Barefoot 02-06-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 449627)
The carts don't need to be banned, but the drivers of carts need to be licensed, just like for autos. Seems that not one cart driver knows what STOP means or when or where you should just stop, like never stop in the lanes of travel, especially on a curve. Ban some drivers, its not the carts fault.
As you may know there is a cure for ignorance, but stupid has not cure.

You are so right, any driver of a golf cart needs to be licensed to drive them. And this includes people renting.

Posh 08 02-06-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 449642)
You are so right, any driver of a golf cart needs to be licensed to drive them. And this includes people renting.

This could potentially eliminate folks driving carts that come for a LS visit. Any thoughts on our to educate them?

VillagesFlorida 02-06-2012 04:25 PM

I can remember when we could not drive our cart after dusk or before dawn. Golfers were actually ticketed for arriving at the starter shack before it was light enough. What a wonderful day it was when we could "stay out after dark"! I have maintained for a long time that anyone who drives a golf cart on the roads here should be licensed. The "rules" say 14 is old enough. WHAT??? How many 14 year-olds know much about the rules of the road? I think it is ridiculous that these kids can take off in Grandma and Grandpa's cart and not have a clue as to what they are doing. I just hope that we all exercise good judgement when driving our carts or we just might go back to being restricted after dark! Horrors!

getdul981 02-06-2012 04:38 PM

EVERYONE should have to pass a class to be eligible to operate a golf cart. I know when we first got here, we asked if there was anything we should know and the guy that took us to the rental said, nope, just get in and drive. We had to figure out things for ourselves. Thank goodness we had TOTV to help us learn some of the ins and outs about what should and shouldn't be done while driving a cart.

One instance I can think of off hand is we had been here in TV for months before we found out there is a tunnel under CR 103 just before you get to Wal-Mart. We had seen people going up Wedgewood and crossing so we thought that was the way. I don't remember how we found out, but probably here on TOTV. We have seen people doing the same thing and have told them that there is a tunnel and they didn't know about it either.

uujudy 02-06-2012 04:44 PM

When we first rented we checked in at the Sales Office, and we asked the helpful folks behind the desk if there was anything we should know about using the golf cart that came with the house. They were a wealth of information, and gave us the golf cart map so we wouldn't get lost.

I would think that whoever you rent your golf cart from should tell you there IS a free golf cart trail map. Maybe we can spread the word on TOTV?

paulandjean 02-06-2012 05:06 PM

Please no more talk of having a license to drive a golf cart. This is just plain silly. Would your auto drivers license be good enough. This is a very safe place to drive your cart. If you are having problems in your cart maybe its your fault.We do not need studies to tell us where accidents have taken place. Everyone just drive defensive and you will not have any problem. Just what we need here "special license to drive a cart or a bike or under 50 cc motorcycle. Watch what you ask for.

red tail 02-06-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by getdul981 (Post 449655)
EVERYONE should have to pass a class to be eligible to operate a golf cart. I know when we first got here, we asked if there was anything we should know and the guy that took us to the rental said, nope, just get in and drive. We had to figure out things for ourselves. Thank goodness we had TOTV to help us learn some of the ins and outs about what should and shouldn't be done while driving a cart.

One instance I can think of off hand is we had been here in TV for months before we found out there is a tunnel under CR 103 just before you get to Wal-Mart. We had seen people going up Wedgewood and crossing so we thought that was the way. I don't remember how we found out, but probably here on TOTV. We have seen people doing the same thing and have told them that there is a tunnel and they didn't know about it either.

are you saying everyone should have to take a class because you need one?
lets get serious!!!

graciegirl 02-06-2012 05:21 PM

I guess that it seems that I have always played golf and always driven a golf cart, although our long four seater does require some extra skill.

It requires the same awareness just like driving a car, that another cart hitting you head on is maybe the end of you.

A little fear is a good thing.

Licensing is another issue. Perhaps just your driver license?

jebartle 02-06-2012 05:22 PM

Are you referring to the study Lake County is doing...
 
on LSV's?.....They are studying whether LSV's should be allowed to cross 441/27.....We waited 10 minutes for a disabled scooter crossing at the intersection where 441 and 27 divide in Leesburg....We were both very concerned for the gentleman in the scooter on such a BUSY road....Not sure the scooter was going faster than 7 mph....Very very dangerous...

bluedog103 02-06-2012 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 449602)
Now with accident numbers being collected and maybe or maybe not golf cart accidents are on the rise. Will golf carts always be allowed on TV streets and paths?

Can you imagine how crazy traffic would be on TV streets if we didn't have carts?

DGx2 02-06-2012 07:16 PM

Graciegirl, you are 100% right. DG

dmorhome 02-06-2012 07:18 PM

Think there is accidents now , ban golf carts and see how many accidents there are.

VillagesFlorida 02-06-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 449669)
Please no more talk of having a license to drive a golf cart. This is just plain silly. Would your auto drivers license be good enough. This is a very safe place to drive your cart. If you are having problems in your cart maybe its your fault.We do not need studies to tell us where accidents have taken place. Everyone just drive defensive and you will not have any problem. Just what we need here "special license to drive a cart or a bike or under 50 cc motorcycle. Watch what you ask for.

I can't speak for the others who have posted here saying that they feel that cart drivers should be licensed. What I CAN say is that a regular driver's license works for me. I see no need for a special "golf cart driver's license".

Posh 08 02-06-2012 08:01 PM

:clap2: Thanks for your responses. Mischief was my motive plus some concern.

Mikeod 02-06-2012 08:10 PM

My understanding is that carts are allowed on streets in TV because of a special waiver/exemption in the vehicle code passed by the legislature. As mentioned above, previously carts were only allowed in daylight hours. If the legislature can allow carts on streets, it can also ban them. All it would take is for someone to decide to sue declaring that the state/county/locality created an unsafe situation that resulted in injury (the Morse bridge crossing) and our use of carts could be examined and revoked. Think of the buffalo situation.

I would expect the political clout of the Morse's and the importance of TV to Sumter county would prevent that, but you just don't know.

Bottom line is to be careful out there with carts. They're not toys. And for those who get a thrill from their 35 mph carts, you just might kill the golden goose.

superuke 02-06-2012 08:12 PM

Go figure if these same people that have accidents in Golf Carts where allowed to drive cars what would happen? It wouldn't be safe to walk anywhere. Besides how would they look at their coupons driving a car.?

bkcunningham1 02-06-2012 08:17 PM

Since it is just opinions, I'll give mine. Ban golf carts? Never. They will eventually require insurance, tags, registration, decals, inspections...whatever localities can think of to generate revenue. I believe that is why there are so many stats collected on golf carts. Just remember, I told you so.

Posh 08 02-06-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeod (Post 449759)
My understanding is that carts are allowed on streets in TV because of a special waiver/exemption in the vehicle code passed by the legislature. As mentioned above, previously carts were only allowed in daylight hours. If the legislature can allow carts on streets, it can also ban them. All it would take is for someone to decide to sue declaring that the state/county/locality created an unsafe situation that resulted in injury (the Morse bridge crossing) and our use of carts could be examined and revoked. Think of the buffalo situation.

I would expect the political clout of the Morse's and the importance of TV to Sumter county would prevent that, but you just don't know.

Bottom line is to be careful out there with carts. They're not toys. And for those who get a thrill from their 35 mph carts, you just might kill the golden goose.

Well said.

Posh 08 02-06-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 449762)
Since it is just opinions, I'll give mine. Ban golf carts? Never. They will eventually require insurance, tags, registration, decals, inspections...whatever localities can think of to generate revenue. I believe that is why there are so many stats collected on golf carts. Just remember, I told you so.

Also well said and thought before said.

joannej 02-06-2012 08:34 PM

TV Golf Cart Safety Meeting
 
I would highly recommend everyone go to the above meeting offered by TV, which is free of charge. There are also police officers present at the meeting that answer questions regarding golf cart laws, etc.

Posh 08 02-06-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by joannej (Post 449772)
I would highly recommend everyone go to the above meeting offered by TV, which is free of charge. There are also police officers present at the meeting that answer questions regarding golf cart laws, etc.

When and where?

DDoug 02-06-2012 08:51 PM

Lot of accidents with cars did they ban those

Barefoot 02-06-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 449669)
Please no more talk of having a license to drive a golf cart. This is just plain silly. Would your auto drivers license be good enough. This is a very safe place to drive your cart. If you are having problems in your cart maybe its your fault.We do not need studies to tell us where accidents have taken place. Everyone just drive defensive and you will not have any problem. Just what we need here "special license to drive a cart or a bike or under 50 cc motorcycle. Watch what you ask for.

I'm curious .... what makes you think that people who are driving golf carts have valid driver's licenses?

pooh 02-06-2012 08:59 PM

Don't need a driver's license to drive a golf cart, but you do need one to drive a street legal golf cart. Not sure with all the traffic, I'd want to be driving in automobile and truck lanes.

Remember all, Never say Never...

Posh 08 02-06-2012 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 449793)
I'm curious .... what makes you think that people who are driving golf carts have valid driver's licenses?

Good question. Canadian DLs valid in the USA?

golf2140 02-06-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 449669)
Please no more talk of having a license to drive a golf cart. This is just plain silly. Would your auto drivers license be good enough. This is a very safe place to drive your cart. If you are having problems in your cart maybe its your fault.We do not need studies to tell us where accidents have taken place. Everyone just drive defensive and you will not have any problem. Just what we need here "special license to drive a cart or a bike or under 50 cc motorcycle. Watch what you ask for.

:bigbow: :bigbow:

buggyone 02-06-2012 09:47 PM

One of the previous posters said that golf carts may someday require inspections, decals, insurance, tags, etc.

I would heartily suggest you do have insurance on your golf cart. Have an accident with your golf cart without insurance and you will be up the creek without a paddle. Your homeowner insurance or car insurance does not pay for damages with your golf cart. Injure someone and you could end up losing everything you worked for.


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