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daca55 02-15-2012 07:34 PM

Flags Lowered For Whitney Houston
 
I think Whitney Houston was a great singer but I think the Governor of NJ made a mistake when he declared that all flags will be at half mast in honor of her passing. I always equated flags at half mast to honor someone who did something special for this country like a military person who dies for his country or the people who died on 911. Being a great singer ....well I don't get it and I don't think it's right. Just wondering if it is just me who thinks this way.

DACA :ohdear:

The Village Girl 02-15-2012 07:36 PM

I don't get it either.


Susan O'Connor:
"Evidently Whitney Houston died. In bigger news, 28 US Soldiers have died in Afghanistan this year. Maybe you could add them to your status too?"

2-07-2012 US Sutton, Billy A. Sergeant 1st Class 42
2-03-2012 US Hildner, Terence J. Brigadier General 49
2-01-2012 US Dycus, Edward J. Lance Corporal 22
1-31-2012 US Stacey, William C. Sergeant 23
1-22-2012 US Pairsh, Joshua C. Captain 29
1-21-2012 US Singer, Christopher G. Corporal 23
1-20-2012 US Riddick, Travis Master Sergeant 40
1-20-2012 US Reinhard, Kevin Corporal 25
1-20-2012 US Bartle, Daniel B. Captain 27
1-20-2012 US Stites, Jesse W. Corporal 23
1-20-2012 US McHone, Nathan R. Captain 29
1-20-2012 US Logan, Joseph D. Corporal 22
1-18-2012 US McGeath, Phillip D. Corporal 25
1-18-2012 US Benson, Keith D. Specialist 27
1-15-2012 US Wise, Benjamin B. Seaman 34
1-15-2012 US Cochran, Kenneth E. Lance Corporal 20
1-15-2012 US Bateman, Jon-Luke Corporal 22
1-11-2012 US Turner, Neil I. Private (Trooper) 21
1-10-2012 US Pyron, Michael W. Private 1st Class 30
1-08-2012 US Napier, Dustin P. Private 1st Class 20
1-06-2012 US Metzger, Jonathan M. Staff Sergeant 32
1-06-2012 US Leonhardt, Brian J. Specialist 21
1-06-2012 US Tauteris Jr., Robert J. Specialist 44
1-06-2012 US Patterson, Christopher A. Specialist 20
1-06-2012 US Seidler, Matthew R. Airman 1st Class 24
1-05-2012 US Bell, Bryan R. Senior Airman 23
1-05-2012 US Schwartz, Matthew S. Technical Sergeant 34
1-02-2012 US Regelin, Chad R. Petty Officer 1st Class 24

justanormalgirl 02-15-2012 07:44 PM

I don't get it either......

skyc6 02-15-2012 07:52 PM

I completely do not understand why we are honoring a wonderful singer, who lived and raised a child in an abusive home, was an addict, and died very likely from an overdose. Frankly, she was an incredibly poor role model for her child and all other young people.
Those war casualities are the true heroes!

ilovetv 02-15-2012 07:53 PM

I don't like it....... and I get it:

Hollywood runs this superficial society to get all eyes turned onto IT, while people of substance who sacrifice for our nation's freedoms are disregarded.

tainsley 02-15-2012 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daca55 (Post 453878)
I think Whitney Houston was a great singer but I think the Governor of NJ made a mistake when he declared that all flags will be at half mast in honor of her passing. I always equated flags at half mast to honor someone who did something special for this country like a military person who dies for his country or the people who died on 911. Being a great singer ....well I don't get it and I don't think it's right. Just wondering if it is just me who thinks this way.

DACA :ohdear:

I couldn't agree with you more! No doubt she was a great singer but...sometimes I wonder about the Govenor!

daca55 02-15-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 453886)
I completely do not understand why we are honoring a wonderful singer, who lived and raised a child in an abusive home, was an addict, and died very likely from an overdose. Frankly, she was an incredibly poor role model for her child and all other young people.
Those war casualities are the true heroes!

:mademyday:

skip0358 02-15-2012 08:16 PM

Enough
 
What's next ? Maybe we should mint some money with her on it. ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

Mikeod 02-15-2012 08:17 PM

Another politician pandering to voters and showing disrespect to those who deserve the honor . Sadly, it's not new.

skyc6 02-15-2012 08:18 PM

You are so right.

coralway 02-15-2012 08:21 PM

NJ Assembly AND Senate will - or maybe already have - passed the same sex marriage bill - which Christie has said doesn't matter because he will veto it.

Flying the flag as half mast for Houston is just another Republican governor pandering for votes.

The real question is, why is anyone surprised?

njbchbum 02-15-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeod (Post 453906)
Another politician pandering to voters and showing disrespect to those who deserve the honor . Sadly, it's not new.

Quote:

Originally Posted by coralway (Post 453909)
NJ Assembly AND Senate will - or maybe already have - passed the same sex marriage bill - which Christie has said doesn't matter because he will veto it.

Flying the flag as half mast for Houston is just another Republican governor pandering for votes.

The real question is, why is anyone surprised?

i can assure you - gov christie is running for vice president! pandering is his specialty when he's not acting like a bully! jmho, of course!

skyc6 02-15-2012 08:32 PM

Same sex marriage and honoring a drug addict are not in the same category. JMHO

katezbox 02-15-2012 08:38 PM

Why must it be either or.... ? EITHER we honor vets OR we honor Whitney Houston.... Let's not judge her - it's not our job...

We can be thankful for the brave men and women who died in the line of duty AND we can be sad for the loss of one of the most beautiful voices of our time...

The Village Girl 02-15-2012 09:21 PM

Wh is it an either, or?
 
New York City will not honor the vets in the war but will give a parade for the winning team in the Superbowl.

Lower the flag for a celeb? We might as well just fly them at half mast for every celeb!

This isn't about Whitney, this is about priorities! We now look up to people who's jobs are to sing and play games and ignore the people who are fighting for us.

Yes...Why is it an either, or? I ask the same question.

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Oren L Miller 02-15-2012 09:22 PM

Crack addict
 
I don't want my kids worshiping or honoring crack addicts. Picking these kinds of people to be hero's makes me doubt people's ability to reason and make decent decisions.
There are a lot of good singers out there. Her cousin was Dione Warwick and Aretha Franklin was her Godmother. If it wasn't for that would we really have heard of her. Let's honor the people that really deserve it.

ilovetv 02-15-2012 09:36 PM

Do you guys remember how long after the funeral the media kept beating the dead horse of Michael Jackson's death?? It still hasn't stopped, even with the so-called doctor who gave him Propofol being convicted. And why is that? Because people are still making money off all of it.

Remember how Michael Jackson's pitiful, sweet daughter was put up there to speak at the funeral, to keep the raw memories alive thru her?

Well, I'd bet that they will do the same thing with pitiful Bobbi Kristina at this funeral. The money mongers will be using her, too....for decades.

And she has that P.O.S. "father" left as her guide. This girl needs all our prayers. She was already on a path of destruction before the death of her mom.

This is the Hollywood legacy.

k2at 02-15-2012 09:38 PM

I am sorry to say that I am from NJ. I think the gov. should rethink his decision.

ilovetv 02-15-2012 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k2at (Post 453951)
I am sorry to say that I am from NJ. I think the gov. should rethink his decision.

We should all email him and tell him how this stinks.

ilovetv 02-15-2012 10:05 PM

Read this and decide if a pop singer fits with these for whom/what the flag is flown half staff:

"Federal guidelines state the flag should be flown at half-staff at the following dates/times:

May 15 – Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless it is the third Saturday in May,

Armed Forces Day, full-staff all day[43]

Last Monday in May – Memorial Day (until noon)

July 27 – Korean War Veterans Day (expired 2003 − reinstated 2009)[44][45]

September 11 – Patriot Day[46]

First Sunday in October – Start of Fire Prevention Week.[47][48]

December 7 – National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day [49]

For 30 days – Death of a president or former president

For 10 days – Death of a vice president, Supreme Court chief justice/retired chief justice, or speaker of the House of Representatives.

From death until the day of interment – Supreme Court associate justice, member of the Cabinet, former vice president, president pro-tempore of the Senate, or the majority and minority leaders of the Senate and House of Representatives. Also for federal facilities within a state or territory, for the governor.

On the day after the death – Senators, members of Congress, territorial delegates or the resident commissioner of the commonwealth of Puerto Rico

Further, the flag is always flown at half-staff at three locations in the United States. These locations are The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier; Arlington Cemetery; and the Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor.

Flag of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

daca55 02-15-2012 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katezbox (Post 453918)
Why must it be either or.... ? EITHER we honor vets OR we honor Whitney Houston.... Let's not judge her - it's not our job...

We can be thankful for the brave men and women who died in the line of duty AND we can be sad for the loss of one of the most beautiful voices of our time...

C'mon lowering the flags for her is a disgrace. She made choices in her life and thats why she is where she is. But to equate her to people who truely gave their all for our country is dead wrong.

ilovetv 02-15-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 453949)
Do you guys remember how long after the funeral the media kept beating the dead horse of Michael Jackson's death?? It still hasn't stopped, even with the so-called doctor who gave him Propofol being convicted. And why is that? Because people are still making money off all of it.

Remember how Michael Jackson's pitiful, sweet daughter was put up there to speak at the funeral, to keep the raw memories alive thru her?

Well, I'd bet that they will do the same thing with pitiful Bobbi Kristina at this funeral. The money mongers will be using her, too....for decades.

And she has that P.O.S. "father" left as her guide. This girl needs all our prayers. She was already on a path of destruction before the death of her mom.

This is the Hollywood legacy.

Well, the Hollywood reporter from TMZ just said it on On The Record, to Greta VanSusteren. Whitney Houston's estate was broke when she died, but in death it will make more money than ever, like Michael Jackson's. And, Bobbi Kristina stands to inherit the estate solely, since the parents are divorced........and the P.O.S. Bobbie Brown will be fighting to get money from the estate ad infinitum.

None of them care about this girl. Just MONEY.

jsw14 02-15-2012 10:37 PM

My FLAG will Fly High..........

Floridagal 02-15-2012 10:46 PM

I think lowering the flag is not necessary for a great singer. Lowering the flag for a native son killed in war to me sounds much better. Guess more people are interested in entertainers dying from a possible drug overdose then the young men who gave their lives for this wonderful country of ours. I salute the war heroes and feel sorry for the drug addicts and the people who surround them who don't try to help them. They are all afraid to say anything that would help cause they are afraid of losing their jobs. Wake up people it is only going to get worse. The entertainers who are on drugs and booze feel it will never happen to them. Maybe our grandchildren seeing all these deaths with drugs and drinking can kill, so hopefully they will only have to think once about it and never do it. Let's hope it does get through to them.

skyc6 02-15-2012 10:53 PM

At 16, there were pictures on the internet and in the media of bobbi Kristina using cocaine and drinking alcohol. What will she do at 18 with any inheritance she does receive? The whole situation is a train wreck, and has absolutely nothing to do with the flag of our country.

njbchbum 02-15-2012 11:04 PM

this is the 2nd celebrity for whom gov christie has ordered the flag flown at half staff...the first order was for clarence clemons [of bruce springsteen's e street band].

that oughta indicate what the gov's motives are! just sayin'.

wendyquat 02-15-2012 11:42 PM

That just takes the cake! Ugh!:rant-rave:

Penguin 02-16-2012 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 453886)
I completely do not understand why we are honoring a wonderful singer, who lived and raised a child in an abusive home, was an addict, and died very likely from an overdose. Frankly, she was an incredibly poor role model for her child and all other young people.
Those war casualities are the true heroes!

:bigbow: X2

RichieLion 02-16-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 453992)
this is the 2nd celebrity for whom gov christie has ordered the flag flown at half staff...the first order was for clarence clemons [of bruce springsteen's e street band].

that oughta indicate what the gov's motives are! just sayin'.

ooooo, you're so suspicious. I think you're probably spot on in your analysis, but still, oooooooooo so suspicious :)

graciegirl 02-16-2012 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coralway (Post 453909)
NJ Assembly AND Senate will - or maybe already have - passed the same sex marriage bill - which Christie has said doesn't matter because he will veto it.

Flying the flag as half mast for Houston is just another Republican governor pandering for votes.

The real question is, why is anyone surprised?

It isn't political. It is not good judgement.

Neither party has that cornered. (bad judgement)

Beautiful voice and beautiful woman, yes. Drug addict, yes. We cannot help but come to a conclusion about what happened. Not something to honor or emulate.

paulandjean 02-16-2012 06:57 AM

Oh Well, Let the state lower its flag,Its not federal flag. Should not hurt anyone. Few days it will be history.

getdul981 02-16-2012 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 454031)
Oh Well, Let the state lower its flag,Its not federal flag. Should not hurt anyone. Few days it will be history.

I agree. Lower the state flag, but not the US Flag.

birdawg 02-16-2012 09:41 AM

well said VG

2BNTV 02-16-2012 09:43 AM

Gov. Christie exercised very poor judgement with this decision.

Whitney sang the most rousing rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner ever but that does equal the loss of life for people who have lost their lives defending our country and our way of life.

paulandjean 02-16-2012 11:47 AM

Not sure if this has anything to do with defending our country.It is about her funeral and not military. She had many mental issues,and many problems. Sometimes you have to understand that people have problems. I am not judging.

Serenoa 02-16-2012 08:29 PM

Flags should be lowered for military heroes and political figures that are not disgraceful. I guess that pretty much narrows it down to military heroes.

njbchbum 02-16-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichieLion (Post 454006)
ooooo, you're so suspicious. I think you're probably spot on in your analysis, but still, oooooooooo so suspicious :)

right on! :icon_wink:

The Great Fumar 02-16-2012 11:37 PM

Christie blew it !!!!! Just another Hop Head ..........fly your flags high....:mademyday:

paulandjean 02-17-2012 08:34 AM

Flags are lowered for military funerals and some in goverment office.The act of her state lowerering the flag for her funeral angers many .Not here,few days this will be history.

Serenoa 02-17-2012 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 454592)
Flags are lowered for military funerals and some in goverment office.The act of her state lowerering the flag for her funeral angers many .Not here,few days this will be history.

paulandjean: I agree with you. I don't understand why this seems to upset so many. Do the complainers really believe that none of the others for whom the flag has been lowered had any personal faults? At the 1991 Super Bowl Whitney Houston sang what most regard as the most stirring rendition of our National Anthem, ever. In my book that alone should earn her this special honor. Does the American flag not belong to ALL American citizens?


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