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I'm pretty upset right now.
President Obama Announces the 2012 Launch of African Americans for Obama - YouTube
Is this fair...or racist? It's things like this that really gets my ire up. If we decided to have a "Caucasian History Month"...or "Caucasians for Mitt" ...we would be called "racist". I know that all of you who don't agree with my post will:throwtomatoes:. Go ahead, I'm ready for it. |
Of course it is fair. You always see groups with commonalities coalesce to back certain candidates. Like "Virginians who support banning contraception of any kind and forcing penetrating vaginal ultrasound on women seeking abortion for Santorum." :icon_wink:
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just another step in the progression of the majority loses another one!!!
Of course it is blatant racism. Why for example on questionaires or surveys, et al do they ask what race and then list some...the one that gets me every time is when one of the choices is African American and another would be Caucasian. Why African American? Why not Caucasian American? If I elect to fill in the answer I ALWAYS write in Caucasian AMERICAN and the hilite it!! |
Of course it's racist, but nobody's going to call him or the Democrats on it. If you notice the racism they'll call YOU racist. The liberal national media will wring their hands and bemoan your racist diatribe in which you actually noticed the president's racism.
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You are right...folks will come on here and call us racists for calling to their attention they are supporting these kind of actions. This does not dismiss everyone voting whomever they want to vote for, but do you think that the 96-97% of blacks that voted for President Obama did so because of his policies ? |
if it was african-americans for Romney would it be racist?
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Can someone actually define "African-American" for me. I've questioned this for a long time and never get a concrete answer. If my parents were from Italy-am I an Italian-American although I was born in the U.S.? If my parents were from Ireland-am I an Irish-American although I was born in the U.S.?-etc, etc. If I were born in the U.S. shouldn't I be American. Surely my parents who were born outside the country should be referred to as ----------/American----- but me???
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Black liberals organize blacks into racial groups, not conservatives. They promise them goodies aimed at people of their complexion, and tell them there's more where that came from if they would just vote along racial lines for candidates who promote a racial agenda. This is why the liberals, or Democrats, are the true racist minded political party. |
Have often wondered if the great African singer Roger Whitaker who was born in Kenya and So. African Golfer Gary Player became American citizens would they check off African-American and Caucasian? Does President Obama check off African American, Caucasian and Indonesian though adoption? Look at the confusion his daughters will face in the future unless we finally wise up and eliminate the tags and just show American. Isn't it time?
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As someone, on this forum in 2008, who NEVER ONCE mentioned race as regards to the President's qualifications....NEVER ONCE even alluded to his race, but simply was totally opposed to his politics, his background and his qualifications...I was called a number of times a racist, NOT ONLY ON THE FORUM publicly but in PM's....many of them.....I get it. Then after 3 years of anytime you oppose the administration, especially on social issues, having that card played not just on here but in the press, I KNOW you dont want to get it. |
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The African-American thing has been out of control for so long that well meaning progressive have not even noticed that their affirmative action program is now redundant..but then they get mesmerized when listening to people like Jesse jackson and Rev Sharpton both of whom do not want to lose their golden goose. But then we have come to expect an "entitlement mentality" from the left. Now there you go as a white conservative I can only express myself with political incorrectness |
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He condescends from his "erudite" ivory tower to lord over them and talk down to them......and to us "dumb hillbillies" who cling to our Bibles and guns. |
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That's a pretty accurate description ...... Certainly can't refudiate that. |
no one has answered my question yet. And as a point of fact there are these various support groups for Romney...Catholics for Romney,Hispanics for Romney,Jews for Romney and finally.....yes there is African-Americans for Romney. So same question for you,is Romney a racist?
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OOO! ME ME ME! I want to answer! Because it is on page one of the leftist, protect Obama handbook. If you don't know the answer or the other side has a point you must turn the tables on them and accuse them of the same thing only with more force and twist the facts. It has worked perfect for the Chief Community Organizer. Pure and simple, it IS racist. Put "white" in front of any organization and it is called racist. Put any other race in front of the same word and they are held up as an example of how it should be done in this big melting pot to even everything out and to pay back to these groups for sins of our fathers with which none of us had anything to do with and none of them had any connection to. |
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Here's a link, Richie. http://www.nbra.info/ But I know there must be some mistake...they must be Republicans but not conservatives, right? |
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It does not surprise me that you took the time to do this. |
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re "always & never" etc.
My husband usually adds "as far as I know" to his "pronouncements" to keep himself out of trouble in a discussion. The challenge is that generalizers are not always aware that they are generalizing. It is not wrong to generalize, just a style of communication. We all do it to some degree, just as we all distort or delete in our everyday communication. It's just that we usually do one more than the others and generalizing is pretty easy to spot. So "as far as I know" covers it and was a good example set for me who is prone to generalizing.
Don't mean to be preachy. Just thought some of you might be interested to know a way to communicate with generalizations or generalizers and still keep the dialogue calm. Then again, some seem to like a good "heated" debate! https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...lies/smile.gif LW888 |
why do some continue to make these vast generalizations about Democrats that cannot be proven then to make matters worse make more vast generalizations that their side does not do these things. It is just not true. All groups want a piece of the pie that goes to the winner. If the republican wins these groups will come knocking on the door,the same if a Dem wins. To say that one groups motives are honorable and the other groups are devious is pure nonsense.
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Still, these conservative groups are more about their success in the arena of business affairs and not the parasite mentality of the majority of liberal gatherings. IMHO. That's was the point I was trying to advance in my earlier post. |
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Conservatives see the pie as ever expanding if you have the will to produce it. If you don't realize that you just put forth a Marxist principle; you need to read what you just wrote again. |
I'm sure that many voted for Obama because of the color of his skin.
I'm sure the same held true for McCain. I know why I voted the way I did. I'm disappointed that those conditions don't seem to have changed. |
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To set the stage, I was raised in a farming community in Iowa. Everyone I new and I new them all, were prejudice to Blacks. We all had dozens of N jokes to tell. Do I think that Obama is prejudice: NO He is only doing openly what so many of us do silently. Blacks have made great improvements in equality in the last 50 years, but are without a doubt, still second class citizens to the majority. I voted for Obama because I thought he was the right man for the job. I am trying to vote for Romney this year, but keep getting slapped back toward Obama by some ridiculous comments on this forum by hard core conservative. I tell you now, open up your mind to the truth, or Obama will be in for four more years more because of conservative prejudice than because of his record. Obama is not stupid, he is not a Muslim, he is not a Kenyan, he is a liberal democrat trying to change this country for the better in his opinion. Now simply repeat this and then add your opinion and I will think about it and make my decision. Start off with a stupid comment about him and you are discounted immediately. |
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a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others. Racism is defined as: Racism is the belief that inherent different traits in human racial groups justify discrimination. Given these definitions unless this group excludes people not of the African American decent don't think it would be racist. But I wonder why you are not so upset about these groups.... Moms for Mitt and Mormans for Mitt Using your logic Moms for Mitt would be sexist and Mormans for Mitt would violate your 1st amdement rights. |
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I think if you had seen the post that I erased (because I got way too personal and divulged my life story...I am so embarassed that I did that, BTW and I apologize to everyone that read it) you would realize where I was coming from on the racial side of things. You're right as far as Mormans for Mitt and Catholics for Santorum go. And I know that every Catholic voted for JFK way back when...and that's all fine and dandy. But I'm talking about skin color here...and I'm not the one who made it an issue...Mr. Obama did when he made a special appeal to African Americans for Obama. I don't think you would ever see a "Caucasian for Romney" special appeal or a "Caucasian for Santorum" special appeal. They would be branded "racists" of the worst kind...and you know that they would. So why is it OK for Obama to do it? It only further divides this nation...into an us and them and black and white mentality. It was bad back in the sixties and seventies and it's just as bad in the 2000's, but no one will admit it. Part of my story was that I worked as a teller in a bank in downtown New Brunswick, NJ. We catered to large businesses, attornies, etc. We also catered to the homeless, the indigent and the addicts. Those who would get their monthly Social Security checks, come and withdraw it on the day it was deposited and then not be able to understand why there was no money left a couple of weeks later. I was called "white cracker"..."honky"..."white trash"...etc. when I had to tell them they would have to wait again. Those that came in with unemployment checks called them "funemployment checks". When unemployment was extended back in 2009 they called them their Obama checks. Their man was going to pay for their houses and their rent and all their bills...he was going to take care of them. This is the mentality that I had to deal with and what they truly believed. As Bucco said in a previous post (and I'm sorry to keep bringing you into this, Bucco): Quote:
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Listen, I would not be as outspoken on this, except that this administration during the 2008 election and since, will haul out and call others racists when it is handy. That is what annoys me...a lot. I am sure COLOGAL has not had the pleasure of being on the receiving side, on this forum and other places, of being called a racist simply because they disagree with our President's POLICIES and having never ever even hinted at race. You sort of become a bit sensitive to it after that.....if you watch the CNN's and the MSNBC, they throw it around quite liberally when discussing the President. I am sure that if 96% of all white americans voted for whomever would run against President Obama, there would be calls of racism. |
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After his talk I stood up and asked this question.... What is the difference between segregation and separation. To this day his answer confuses me. So he said the difference was that Black Separatists want to be separate. To which I replied but using that logic there is no difference because the whites are choosing to be segregated. I even got interviewed by the local radio station. (This was rural Kansas) My point is that on a certain level I clearly understand what you are saying. However, no one is upset with any other type of group for whoever. BTW...I spent much of my youth in Northern New Jersey at Lake Tamarac. |
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Not sure what you mean here... I am sure COLOGAL has not had the pleasure of being on the receiving side, on this forum and other places, of being called a racist simply because they disagree with our President's POLICIES and having never ever even hinted at race. I did recently post something about sexism in regard to birth control and boner meds. |
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I think you really mean what you are saying here and you do understand both sides. But what seems to happen instead of what you stated about is people tend to come back at a poster with "your side did it so it is Okay for my side to do it" kind of answer. I wish more replies could be more like this one. I don't doubt that racism still exsist. I am sure it is from all directions not just white on black. However it is not at the levels that people say it is. It is clearly a call out from Obama to BLACK Americans and only black americans in this case. Why is it not ja call out to ALL AMERICANS if it is for all our good? I don't care who the candidate is, he or she could NEVER say all white Americans need to back me! NEVER!! Make it any other race and it is Okay. That is the honest truth the way I see it. By the way I am not a Caucasian, I am a native american Osage although people think I look hispanic, so I have had some racism thrown my way, and I concider myself an AMERICAN! I say this so people don't think I am a angry white guy sitting in a trailer in the woods waiting for the end of the world!! |
Frederick Douglass. African American (1818-1895)
"A new condition has brought new duties. A character which might pass without censure as a slave cannot so pass as a freeman. We must not beg men to do for us what we ought to do for ourselves. The prostrate form, the uncovered head, the cringing attitude, the bated breath, the suppliant, outstretched hand of beggary does not become an American freeman, and does not become us as a class, and we w...ill not consent to be any longer represented in that position. No people can make desirable progress or have permanent welfare outside of their own independent and earnest efforts…. We utterly repudiate all invidious distinctions, whether in our favor or against us, and ask only for a fair field and no favor." ~ Frederick Douglass, July 4, 1875
"I know of no country where the conditions for affecting great changes in the settled order of things, for the development of right ideas of liberty and humanity, are more favorable than here in these United States." ~ Frederick Douglass, Speech on the Dred Scott decision, May 1957 Today marks the 117th anniversary of this great man's death. So many of his words speak to us today as Americans. He believed passionately in the promise of America, despite how it had treated him, and he believed in the ability of black Americans to stand alongside their fellow Americans as equal heirs to the American Dream. My desire is to champion the confident and hopeful message he left with us. Ron Miller-another African American... http://RonOnTheRight.com/about-ron-miller.html |
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Although I was a Hillary girl...I do know my way around the Obama website. Here is a link, just as an example, you don't have to use it for the group Women for Obama Women for Obama — Barack Obama There are actually 9 groups listed including African American, Gays, Latinos and Young people. But in this thread only one is being discussed.... someone earlier made a comment that all Catholics voted for Kennedy and I know that wasn't true, just in my family. The Republican candidates do have groups themselves, MOMs for Mitt for example. But race is the 3rd rail..... |
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