Whatever Happened To Newt?
 

Did I miss something that Newtie said or did?

All the current polls show him headed in the direction of Palin, Trump, Bachmann, Cain, Perry and Huntsman before him.

What happened?

Dare I say people know him for what he really is.......<sorry>...I'm just one that wouldn't trust Newt as far as I could throw him.

Suzanne

Who???

The more you hear from and about, newt, the more you loathe him.

Sheldon Adelson has decided to make Newt "Flavor of the Month" for March.

Another 10 mill should do the trick.

Isn't this just precious.

Maybe somebody in the party with some common sense finally got thru to him to stop mouthing off in such a way that gives the Democrats just the ammunition they salivate for, to use against whichever candidate gets the Republican nomination.

Santorum happened to him. Specifically, the carousel that has been the Republican Flavor of The Month rotated him OUT of position and Santorum INTO that position.

I wasn't going to comment on this thread with all it's pointlessness, but I just want to commend you for your simple and accurate answer without any snarky commentary. It's very "fair and balanced".:coolsmiley:

Well all I can say is that if you can't say something nice about someone then don't say anything at all (Cite---My mother)

Might it be that Newt's appearance before the cheering throngs of the faithful in the Barnes and Noble parking lot right here in TV might go down in the annuls of history as Newt's Last Stand.

With a few more of those aspirin comments by a supporter of his, we will be asking what happened to Santorum. How he can make such a stink about birth control when most catholic women use it is ingenuine at best.

Are you kidding me Ladydoc??? You're going to blast and destroy Santorum because of one silly joke a supporter said????

Meanwhile you have President Obama going to Rev. Wrights church for over 20 years listening to the most inflammatory rhetoric and you defend him for that and think Obama is just all hunky dory????

You liberals are incredible.

Very well said......your mother obviously was a very wise woman. If only more of us would have had her as a role model maybe we'd be a more civil nation.

Suzanne

not about birth control
 

in response, let me reiterate that the debate is NOT about birth control but about religious freedom, which is being totally usurped by our dictator in washington. to try to say that insurance companies are going to provide anything for FREE is ridiculous and insults our intelligence...i don't think any religious group should be receiving federal funds, and then the government would have no say at all in how they conduct their operations. if we paid fewer taxes, we could support our religion of choice more generously and they would not need federal funds to do their good works!

Diplong usually posts with simple and wise answers with no rancor. I always enjoy reading his comments.

And here is my biased and snarky comment: Newt got exactly what he deserved, oblivion. However he is a street fighter and doesn't give up easily.

In all honesty, what I've seen as a constant form the GOP Primaries is a constant search for the Not-Romney. Whether it was 'drafting' Rick Perry, Michelle Bachmann at the Iowa Cacuses, Herman Cain's resurgence, Newt coming from out of nowhere..

Now it's Santorum. But what do we hear? I don't know about anyone else, but so many seem to want Chris Christie.

It's like they're searching for their next Reagan and they're not going to find him. Not like what happened in 1980. I mean, Reagan lost to Ford in '76 and was ready for 'the next campaign'. Who was in that position when this campaign started? Who lost to McCain? Hint: It wasn't Romney. *Mike Huckabee* finished second to McCain , according to the stats I got from RealClearPolitics. What have we heard from him? Not a peep.

With the country going broke and Newt wanting to build a Moon colony, really, you needed to ask what happened to Newt. Should have been really simple to see what happened, he's crazy and out of touch with the vast majority of Americans who want to see less government spending, less handouts, smaller government and a return to capitalism, where hard work and effort pay off and those that don't work, don't eat. Simple enough for me to understand.

That actually makes sense. Take away federal funding for all religious groups and also take away their tax exempt status.

:agree:Oblivion is better then he deserves.....He may not give up easily; his ego is huge.

I still would like to see/hear where the qualifiers of "most catholic women use them" or especially the one that states "over 95% of catholic women use them".....comes from.

Convenient generalizations presented as fact to make a point...usually political as in this thread!

btk

I have also read the 95% figure. That sounds very high...However, I went to a Catholic University and I can tell you that well over 50% of the women I knew there were on birth control. Granted this was a long time ago, but if this trended like you would expect, the number would likely go up, not down. If Catholics were not using birth control, their population would be growing at a higher rate. I think I recently read that Muslims have overtaken Catholics as having the greatest number of followers.

Truth or not; there's no merit or justification in attempting to compel the Catholic Church, against it's teaching, to provide birth control pills, and to provide them free of charge, to boot. There is nothing stopping Catholic women from purchasing these pills of their own free will.

Gingrich joins Palin as most disliked politician in America.

I think thats only in your house that might be true, and not in real world America.

It really does not matter how many Catholic women AND MEN use The Pill, vasectomy or tubal ligation, disobeying the Church's teachings/law.

It's about the federal government forcing religious employers to pay for these things, whether it's paying more into the insurance risk pool to cover more claims, or whether the federal government "orders" insurance companies and self-insurers to "give" it to people who don't have the coverage.

When are people going to wake up to the fact that every single time the government says "We will GIVE you this or that (which costs money)".....

....it also goes without saying, "We will TAKE the money needed to pay for this from somebody else.....never mind who THAT is......we'll have unelected, appointed bureaucrats at HHS figure that out later......

.....and since we won't know who really decided who it is that gets the money TAKEN from them, there's nobody who can be identified as accountable for the thievery."

Here's a great exposé-commentary on that, from Greta VanSusteren:

What did you expect? They didn’t even bother to read it ! And then they have passed the buck to unelected people to essentially write it! (and, am I wrong?) « Gretawire

Now Santorum says to Bob Schiffer that pre-natal care can lead to abortions.

Just got results of a search for fastest growing religion in the 21st century...so far I have found it to be...Islam, Buddhist, Scientology, Catholicism, etc,etc,etc...depending on which website you choose to read.
Islam is growing at a faster rate-2.9% compared with Chrisitanity-2.3%. However, Islam is smaller to start with and Christianity is adding 11 Billion followers more per year.
Christianity is even making gains in Islamic countries, and promises to be the largest religion in the 21st century!

http:///http://religionannarbor.word...wing-religion/

How many times would you guess you're going to hear the phrase "state- ordered trans-vaginal probe" before the election, mostly coming from democrats?

Even Ari Fleicher tweeted "this election should be about ideology, not theology".

Yes, absolutely true.

Anyone willing to do a google search can confirm that.

This is pretty funny. Google Palin hate? How is that measured? Do I need to poll people in Starbucks to get that result?

Now Foster Friess is quoted as explaining how wealthy people should self-tax. Similar to Mitt Romney's self-deportation for illegal immigrants. What's next - self-incarceration for criminals? When it comes to contraception, Foster Friess is a real pill.

There is no way christianity is adding 11 BILLION followers a year. 11 BILLION???

A Far Stretch
 

Did I miss something? I thought all this hullabaloo was in response to a new HHS regulation that required the health insurance policies provided to employees of private hospitals, including those owned and operated by various Catholic dioceses, to include coverage for birth control prescriptions.

The church is not being compelled to provide birth control pills, nor are the hospitals they own. And the female employees of those hospitals aren't being forced to take the pills. If they feel strongly enough about their religious beliefs, it will simply be a feature of their coverage that they can choose not to use.

Wow! The far right has really twisted this story to make it sound like the President himself is forcing Catholic women to take birth control pills that violate their religious beliefs. Seems like a far stretch from what's actually happening to me.

I wonder what percentage of Catholic women actually follow that precept of the Church these days anyway?

Who cares who takes birth control or doesn't take birth control, but don't you just know the White House loves this controversy. Why would any woman vote for a republican while they're busy discussing who should take birth control and state-ordered trans-vaginal probe?

I found the poll that has Gingrich as most disliked. It's here:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/im...2/14/rel2c.pdf

This is no fluff piece. This is 25 pages of statistics on the poll that was commissioned. You can really dig into the numbers.

What are u smokin' Kahuna. You've completely missed the point. It's kind of crazy, actually.

President Obama wants the Catholic Church to be required to pay for birth control. It's against Catholic teaching. It's a Constitutional issue and nothing more. President Obama want to breach the First Amendment and it's provision of freedom of religion.

Nobody is outlawing birth control pills and no one cares one whit whether a woman takes them or not. That is between she and her doctor and her own conscience, if it's a question of faith.

If the State can compel a Church to act against it's own teachings and beliefs, can they also compel a Roman Catholic doctor to perform an abortion, or for a Roman Catholic Hospital to allow the procedure on it's premises?

It's the Constitutional issue of Freedom of Religion.

Do you purposely misunderstand things?

Mr. Friess is correct here. If rich liberals really believe they are taxed too little there is a provision in the nation's tax laws where they can send more money than they are required. They can send as much as they like.

This is what he's talking about.

It's therapy for guilty rich people. Don't hold your breath waiting for any rich liberals to voluntarily "self tax" themselves in a "fair" way.

churches self-insure
 

"The church is not being compelled to provide birth control pills, nor are the hospitals they own. And the female employees of those hospitals aren't being forced to take the pills. If they feel strongly enough about their religious beliefs, it will simply be a feature of their coverage that they can choose not to use." this is a quote from kahuna but sorry i don't know how to highlight.

this paragraph is not correct...the catholic church and many other churches self-insure and provide their own insurance to employees (some even based on those employees living by less risky christian mores.) this mandate would force christian churches to provide insurance for not only contraceptives, but sterilization and the morning after pill, which actually causes an abortion.
the government has no authority to force any religious group to go against their teachings... THAT is the point.

Did I also purposely misunderstand Mitt Romney saying illegals should self-deport?

I wish illegals would self-deport. It would save everyone a whole lot of trouble.

You had to divert the subject because you're embarrassed that I pointed out how you misunderstood what Mr. Friess was talking about. (oops) Very predictable behavior, but not gracious.