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tpop1 02-19-2012 07:28 PM

The Very Last Roundabout post.
 
The Secret to Negotiating Roundabouts

As one approaches a roundabout:

Imagine it's an intersection with the traffic light RED and a "No Right on RED": sign.

The light will stay RED and not turn Green as long as there are cars in or entering the circle and approaching passing in front of your car!

When the light turns Green..............
  • Cars can go straight from either lane,
  • Cars can only go RIGHT from the RIGHT lane (who'd take a RIGHT hand turn from a LEFT lane)? and
  • Cars can only go LEFT from the LEFT lane (who'd take a LEFT hand turn from a RIGHT lane)?

If everyone follows the rules there will be no issues....yeah, right!!:shocked:

Unfortunately, NOT everyone follows the rules so.......

Two majors things to watch out for:

1) People entering the circle when you are in it; NOT giving you the right of way!
2) People going LEFT from the RIGHT hand lane cutting in front of you; when you are going straight!

Once into a roundabout changing lanes shoud be PROHIBITED!!!

What do you think?? Did I solve the problem??? yeah, right!!:)

Bill-n-Brillo 02-19-2012 07:35 PM

Here - let me get this out of the way early on in the thread.............. :popcorn:

:icon_wink:

Bill :)

skyguy79 02-19-2012 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 455906)
Here - let me get this out of the way early on in the thread.............. :popcorn:

:icon_wink:

Bill :)

I'd join you but I gobbled up the popcorn you sent me already! :doh:

And as for the very last roundabout post......


Regor 02-19-2012 08:30 PM

A lot easier if, you enter from the right lane you HAVE to exit at the FIRST exit! You can't go past the first exit! To goto the second or third exit you enter from the left lane, and exit in the left lane. Remember, everyone on your right HAS to be exiting.
Think of it as if there was a wall forcing the people in the right lane to exit at the first exit. Nobody can cut you off! At the 2nd or 3rd exit, you make your turn and exit in the left lane of the exit because you can't get in the right lane.

It's called KISS

Happinow 02-19-2012 08:33 PM

we were in the right lane the other day and someone came from the left lane, cut us off to exit right. Go figure.

ducati1974 02-19-2012 08:40 PM

Happinow, according to the post before yours that can't happen, because if you were in the right lane you should have been exiting immediately, thus you couldn't get cut off. That being said I never understood them either, but his post was the best explanation I've ever seen of them (assuming he's right of course!)

Pturner 02-19-2012 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpop1 (Post 455902)
The Secret to Negotiating Roundabouts

As one approaches a roundabout:

Imagine it's an intersection with the traffic light RED and a "No Right on RED": sign.

The light will stay RED and not turn Green as long as there are cars in or entering the circle and approaching passing in front of your car!

When the light turns Green..............
  • Cars can go straight from either lane,
  • Cars can only go RIGHT from the RIGHT lane (who'd take a RIGHT hand turn from a LEFT lane)? and
  • Cars can only go LEFT from the LEFT lane (who'd take a LEFT hand turn from a RIGHT lane)?

If everyone follows the rules there will be no issues....yeah, right!!:shocked:

Unfortunately, NOT everyone follows the rules so.......

Two majors things to watch out for:

1) People entering the circle when you are in it; NOT giving you the right of way!
2) People going LEFT from the RIGHT hand lane cutting in front of you; when you are going straight!

Once into a roundabout changing lanes shoud be PROHIBITED!!!

What do you think?? Did I solve the problem??? yeah, right!!:)

Hi Tpop,
I like the idea of using the right lane only to take the first right. Although that is not the rule-- you can go straight through from the right lane-- it would probably work well.

However, stopping at the intersection and then not entering until the roundabout is totally empty would defeat the purpose of roundabouts-- which is to keep traffic moving.

Cars are supposed to stagger however, and not drive beside nor pass another car in the RAB. If EVERYONE followed this rule, there would be no RAB mishaps.

cappyjon431 02-19-2012 09:53 PM

"The Very Last Roundabout post. "

For some strange reason I sincerely doubt it.:icon_wink:

Bogie Shooter 02-19-2012 10:16 PM

Would someone who did not get a tee time for tomorrow please cut and paste all of the 150+ posts from the other thread to this one , please. It will save all of us a lot of time in reposting the same information.:loco:

angiefox10 02-19-2012 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 456003)
Would someone who did not get a tee time for tomorrow please cut and paste all of the 150+ posts from the other thread to this one , please. It will save all of us a lot of time in reposting the same information.:loco:


:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

downeaster 02-19-2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regor (Post 455933)
A lot easier if, you enter from the right lane you HAVE to exit at the FIRST exit! You can't go past the first exit! To goto the second or third exit you enter from the left lane, and exit in the left lane. Remember, everyone on your right HAS to be exiting.
Think of it as if there was a wall forcing the people in the right lane to exit at the first exit. Nobody can cut you off! At the 2nd or 3rd exit, you make your turn and exit in the left lane of the exit because you can't get in the right lane.

It's called KISS

Sorry Regor, if you read the brochure you will see that is not correct.

renielarson 02-19-2012 11:19 PM

Regor...that is how I drive the roundabouts. Sadly, that is not the rule.

If it were, and everyone followed the right lane turns at first right rule, there would be no accidents. However, that is not the case.

Our only option is to be fully aware of what the vehicles next to us might be doing...and I say MIGHT, and drive defensively.

downeaster 02-19-2012 11:24 PM

The amount of misinformation in these ROB threads is troubling. There have been repeated references, with links, to the site where the correct rules are posted but some still persist in posting incorrect information.

renielarson 02-19-2012 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 456019)
The amount of misinformation in these ROB threads is troubling. There have been repeated references, with links, to the site where the correct rules are posted but some still persist in posting incorrect information.

So right downeaster! Regardless, accidents can and will happen with the correct rules. Accidents would be diminished if right lane had to turn at first right. But that isn't the rule, is it?

I know the rules...I just don't like them!

JoeC1947 02-20-2012 06:58 AM

I feel like I died and when to round about hell......AGAIN!

Barefoot 02-20-2012 09:20 AM

There have been many threads and hundreds of posts on how to drive correctly in a roundabout. A lot of posts have conflicting and incorrect information. If I were a newbie, I'd be even more confused after reading the TOTV threads.

Best advice IMHO: Stay away from other cars in the roundabout as much as possible. Drive with extreme caution. Be prepared to deal with the fact that a high number of people won't be observing the rules.

Bogie Shooter 02-20-2012 09:22 AM

And.................get a copy of the brochure and read it.

memason 02-20-2012 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 456118)
And.................get a copy of the brochure and read it.

Exactly .....and NEVER read [or post] on another TOTV RAB thread.

I'm out...

Barefoot 02-20-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memason (Post 456126)

Exactly .....and NEVER read [or post] on another TOTV RAB thread.I'm out...

Best advice ever. :clap2:

angiefox10 02-20-2012 11:00 AM

Hope this helps!
 
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HB9THUeh6tI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Can you see the embedded video?

Here is a link!

http://youtu.be/HB9THUeh6tI

2BNTV 02-20-2012 11:11 AM

Still a wannabee so I am just asking.

If I were in the left lane and needed to make a right turn and assuming there is a cart in the right lane, wouldn't it be advisable to go around the RAB to make the needed initial right safe?

I don't know so please don't throw tomatos.

JoeC1947 02-20-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 456195)
Still a wannabee so I am just asking.

If I were in the left lane and needed to make a right turn and assuming there is a cart in the right lane, wouldn't it be advisable to go around the RAB to make the needed initial right safe?

I don't know so please don't throw tomatos.

Carts are not allowed in the RAB's unless it's street legal and then you would treat it just as a car. If's it's not street legal then I would avoid it at all costs!

2BNTV 02-20-2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeC1947 (Post 456204)
Carts are now allowed in the RAB's unless it's street legal and then you would treat it just as a car. If's it's not street legal then I would avoid it at all costs!

Thanks for answering my question. :)

Bogie Shooter 02-20-2012 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 456195)
Still a wannabee so I am just asking.

If I were in the left lane and needed to make a right turn and assuming there is a cart in the right lane, wouldn't it be advisable to go around the RAB to make the needed initial right safe?

I don't know so please don't throw tomatos.

www.districtgov.org

Graytop 02-20-2012 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 456003)
Would someone who did not get a tee time for tomorrow please cut and paste all of the 150+ posts from the other thread to this one , please. It will save all of us a lot of time in reposting the same information.:loco:

:loco: .....or someone could combine all those posts and the dog excrement ones into an e-book for publication,......Do they ever ban topics for over exposure or lack of further interest? If people can't understand the brochure put out by the officials on the roundabouts,... is it really going to be explained on here any better?..:blahblahblah:

FMF Doc 02-20-2012 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 456185)
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HB9THUeh6tI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Can you see the embedded video?

Here is a link!

Driving Multi-lane Roundabouts - YouTube

Great video. I have two suggestions just for fun:

1. We should have trucks in our RAB like in the video.

2. Just like the Mickey Mouse CLub, make Wednesday anything can happen day and let's drive on the left side of the road and go through the RAB;s clockwise so our British friends feel at home

Mudder 02-20-2012 11:42 AM

Let's put this rest.

The Village Girl 02-20-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudder (Post 456223)
Let's put this rest.

Oh dear,

How many times do I have to tell you, this is a public forum. The threads are started because people are interested in the topics, they continue until people stop posting.

You cannot "put this to rest" unless you are the Admin, OP, or people just stop posting.

So.................... If you don't like the topic, simply don't read it.

Now, let's have some coffee and enjoy the forum. :mornincoffee:

lightworker888 02-20-2012 12:52 PM

Angiefox, Thank you for posting.
 
That is a great video clip and as far as I'm concerned should be watched by anyone who has any concern about RAB. Most of the challenges probably come from those who aren't on TOTV or have never used a roundabout. This video would be useful to have as part of the buyer or renter kit. Maybe the welcome wagon could include the link!

LW888

2BNTV 02-20-2012 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 456214)

Thanks for the link. I am a person who will follow the rules and I plan on attending any workshop that will help to ensure safe and responsible golf cart driving.

I think it's so sad to live this long and then be invovled in a golf cart accident that could be fatal.

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

skyking 02-21-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightworker888 (Post 456265)
That is a great video clip and as far as I'm concerned should be watched by anyone who has any concern about RAB. Most of the challenges probably come from those who aren't on TOTV or have never used a roundabout. This video would be useful to have as part of the buyer or renter kit. Maybe the welcome wagon could include the link!

LW888

This is a very good video. It shows the proper way to exit from the center(left) lane. A common mistake I have seen is a car exiting from the left lane and crossing over to the RIGHT lane of the destination street instead of following the lane markings into the LEFT lane of the destination (like any two lane highway). The poor souls in the outside (right) lane almost get side swiped while properly exiting the roundabout.

It is hard for us to get used to making a right turn from the left lane.

Bogie Shooter 02-21-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 456282)
Thanks for the link. I am a person who will follow the rules and I plan on attending any workshop that will help to ensure safe and responsible golf cart driving.

I think it's so sad to live this long and then be invovled in a golf cart accident that could be fatal.

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

The link was for the RAB brochure.

FMF Doc 02-21-2012 12:36 PM

Just don't be a Clark Griswald in National Lampoon's European Vacation.


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgX6qlJEMc[/ame]

Pturner 02-21-2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graytop (Post 456219)
:loco: .....or someone could combine all those posts and the dog excrement ones into an e-book for publication,......Do they ever ban topics for over exposure or lack of further interest? If people can't understand the brochure put out by the officials on the roundabouts,... is it really going to be explained on here any better?..:blahblahblah:

:wave: Graytop
I like the idea of the e-book. But, um, if there were a lack of interest in these topics, no one keep would posting and reading them.

In fact, if you are not interested... um, why are you reading this?:read::p:laugh:

angiefox10 02-21-2012 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FMF Doc (Post 456777)
Just don't be a Clark Griswald in National Lampoon's European Vacation.


European Vacation - Roundabout - YouTube


:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

coffeebean 02-22-2012 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 455937)
we were in the right lane the other day and someone came from the left lane, cut us off to exit right. Go figure.

That is the way it is supposed to work but the trick is....when entering the RAB, always yield to any car that is already in the RAB. Those cars will always be ahead of you so when they exit the RAB, they will pass in front of you. That gives you the feeling that the car is "cutting you off" but actually, that is the way the RABs work. When this happens, it looks like a choreographed dance. A car goes in front of another car as they exit from the inside lane while a car travels around in the outside lane. This happens all the time.

Another trick to these RABs is to always make sure you are staggered with any car near you while in the RAB. I find I must adjust my speed if a car comes up beside me. I try not to let that happen.

graciegirl 02-22-2012 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 457042)
That is the way it is supposed to work but the trick is....when entering the RAB, always yield to any car that is already in the RAB. Those cars will always be ahead of you so when they exit the RAB, they will pass in front of you. That gives you the feeling that the car is "cutting you off" but in actually, that is the way the RABs work. When this happens, it looks like a choreographed dance. A car goes in front of another car as they exit from the inside lane while a car travels around in the outside lane. This happens all the time.

Another trick to these RABs is to always make sure you are staggered with any car near you while in the RAB. I find I must adjust my speed if a car comes up beside me. I try not to let that happen.

If you are staggering, please do not enter the roundabout in front, behind, or with me. ;)

coffeebean 02-22-2012 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 457044)
If you are staggering, please do not enter the roundabout in front, behind, or with me. ;)

Now I'm confused.

skyguy79 02-22-2012 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 457045)
Now I'm confused.

Gracie's being diplomatic. Let me give you the unadulterated blunt version... "Get yer drunk a** off the road!"

jmemc46 02-22-2012 08:50 AM

Rounabout
 
:confused: Okay now Im totally confused. I will be coming for a visit in April with a couple of friends. I have been before a couple of times. Thought I understood the Round About but now I'm not sure. But I know I'm still goin g to have a great time Can't wait.:smiley::smiley:
Jmemc46


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