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Guest 03-16-2012 05:19 PM

Must Speak English?
 


I guess in Santorum's perfect world, English needs to be the dominate language.

Puerto Ricans slam Santorum for saying the territory should adopt English if it wants statehood - Election 2012 - The Washington Post

Guest 03-17-2012 12:10 AM

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I think it was foolish to say so because it would hurt his campaign. Howeverthe dominant language in the world not just his world is fact.
English is the language of business. It has been for decades. If you want to do business you do business in English. There is nothing wrong with that.

There was a time when French was the predominant language of diplomacy.

For what reason would you teach your children Spanish if you were not Spanish. About the only thing that is good for is touring the Caribbean or giving instructions to your gardener or maid.

Just an opinion.

Guest 03-17-2012 06:49 AM

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Doubt if English was the dominant language in some territories that became States in the past. Like Texas in 1845, for instance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_of_statehood

Suppose there were a lot of Spanish speakers in California in 1850 as well.

Guest 03-17-2012 06:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 467807)
I think it was foolish to say so because it would hurt his campaign. Howeverthe dominant language in the world not just his world is fact.
English is the language of business. It has been for decades. If you want to do business you do business in English. There is nothing wrong with that.

There was a time when French was the predominant language of diplomacy.

For what reason would you teach your children Spanish if you were not Spanish. About the only thing that is good for is touring the Caribbean or giving instructions to your gardener or maid.

Just an opinion.

Open your mind a bit. How about becoming fluent in Spanish as a precursor to teaching English to Spanish speaking students.

Guest 03-17-2012 08:50 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 467807)
I think it was foolish to say so because it would hurt his campaign. Howeverthe dominant language in the world not just his world is fact.
English is the language of business. It has been for decades. If you want to do business you do business in English. There is nothing wrong with that.

There was a time when French was the predominant language of diplomacy.

For what reason would you teach your children Spanish if you were not Spanish. About the only thing that is good for is touring the Caribbean or giving instructions to your gardener or maid.

Just an opinion.

Statements like the above explain why only 14% of hispanics support republicans. IMHO

Guest 03-17-2012 09:08 AM

We forget the wisdom of our fathers and descend into the Tower of Babel.

English is still the dominant language of world business; get with the program, or remain obscure.

Guest 03-17-2012 09:10 AM

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We forget the wisdom of our fathers and descend into the Tower of Babel.

English is still the dominant language of world business; get with the program, or remain obscure.

BUT Richie...as JANMCN always says or infers...it is ALL about the political party....as she said, only 14% support the Republicans because of this and THAT...THE VOTE...is the single most important thing.

How shallow of you Richie ~!!

Guest 03-17-2012 09:16 AM

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Statements like the above explain why only 14% of hispanics support republicans. IMHO


The real reason only 14% of the Hispanics support the Republicans is because the Republicans want all of them to have a valid ID to vote.

Guest 03-17-2012 09:48 AM

So because English is the business language of the world, our Government would require that language? Isn't that a bit too much government for true conservatives?

Guest 03-17-2012 10:55 AM

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The real reason only 14% of the Hispanics support the Republicans is because the Republicans want all of them to have a valid ID to vote.

Or it could be that republicans voted against "The Violence Against Women Act".

Guest 03-17-2012 11:08 AM

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Or it could be that republicans voted against "The Violence Against Women Act".

What does one have to do with the other? How does only 14% Hispanics vote for Republicans turn into The Violence Against Women Act? Two entirely different subjects

Guest 03-17-2012 11:24 AM

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What does one have to do with the other? How does only 14% Hispanics vote for Republicans turn into The Violence Against Women Act? Two entirely different subjects

It's as inane as your remark about hispanics having voter ID.

Guest 03-17-2012 12:29 PM

The point is this, you can not have a united country without a single language and single currency. As one said, why learn Spanish, you only need it to talk to your gardener. That alone should speak for the veracity of Rick Santorum's statement. He wants the people to be able to get a better job than gardener.

The educated Puerto Rician professonals want their children to be fluent in American English so they can make something of themselves.

Guest 03-17-2012 01:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 467979)
The point is this, you can not have a united country without a single language and single currency. As one said, why learn Spanish, you only need it to talk to your gardener. That alone should speak for the veracity of Rick Santorum's statement. He wants the people to be able to get a better job than gardener.

The educated Puerto Rician professonals want their children to be fluent in American English so they can make something of themselves.

So we conquer and change the culture. That name you use is appropriate.

Guest 03-17-2012 01:31 PM

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It's as inane as your remark about hispanics having voter ID.

You posted that only 14% of Hispanics liked Republicans; all I did was supply a reason

Guest 03-17-2012 01:37 PM

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BUT Richie...as JANMCN always says or infers...it is ALL about the political party....as she said, only 14% support the Republicans because of this and THAT...THE VOTE...is the single most important thing.

How shallow of you Richie ~!!

Bucco, this is the same liberal pandering that brought down the "black family" from the core families we mostly knew our friends to have in the 50's and 60's to the fractured single parent homes that 70% of black children are now born into. Confucius had a saying; "The strength of a nation derives from the integrity of the home". It as applicable today as it was at the time he said this.

The liberals are doing the same thing to Spanish speaking people. They're keeping them in poverty and obscurity by pandering to them.

I think liberal leaders do this purposely to keep an underclass who votes for them thinking they're being done favors. Instead of challenging people to improve and grab that golden ring of success, they keep them in their liberal ghetto.

I think liberals, like we have speaking here on this forum, do so out of well meaning ignorance.

Guest 03-17-2012 02:23 PM

One of the reasons the Irish assimilated as quickly as they had was because they spoke....you guessed it...English.

Public Schools all over the country are hampered greatly because they are required to deal with dozen up dozen of different languages, not to mention different customs, etc. Add to that the deviations created by minoroity goups who band together as a gang and you can see that teachers are really up against it. Now include the same problems are facing employers and....bingo you have a major burden facing America.

Guest 03-17-2012 02:38 PM

My grandmother showed up in this country from Puerto Rico in January of 1936 and you better believe she speaks english.

Guest 03-17-2012 09:38 PM

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My grandmother showed up in this country from Puerto Rico in January of 1936 and you better believe she speaks english.

So you are goose stepping into PR with Rick and changing the lingo?

Guest 03-18-2012 08:16 AM

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So you are goose stepping into PR with Rick and changing the lingo?

Ahh!!; sinking to the argument of implied Nazism against those who differ from your opinion. Very nice. You should be so proud of your debating skills.

Guest 03-18-2012 10:01 AM

Huh? Far from it! My point was that, because English was the dominant language in New York City (where she landed), she learned English.

If I were to go to work in Puerto Rico, you bet your bottom dollar I'd be learning Spanish - just as if I were to go to work in Montreal, I'd be improving my skills in French.

As far as Puerto Rico goes, I just wish they'd go one way or another. Either become a state or become a fully independent country. Holding these 3-way votes where the status quo is also an option solves nothing. Have one more of those votes. If no option gets 50% then, like any runoff election, throw out the last option and trot out the ballot boxes again.

After all, PR gets their own Olympic team, among other things. My opinion is "(Spit) or get off the pot"

Guest 03-18-2012 10:10 AM

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Ahh!!; sinking to the argument of implied Nazism against those who differ from your opinion. Very nice. You should be so proud of your debating skills.

Nobody else on here debates, why should I? Just gouges from the John Birchers. A moderate Republican doesn't stand a chance.

Guest 03-18-2012 10:11 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 468172)
Huh? Far from it! My point was that, because English was the dominant language in New York City (where she landed), she learned English.

If I were to go to work in Puerto Rico, you bet your bottom dollar I'd be learning Spanish - just as if I were to go to work in Montreal, I'd be improving my skills in French.

As far as Puerto Rico goes, I just wish they'd go one way or another. Either become a state or become a fully independent country. Holding these 3-way votes where the status quo is also an option solves nothing. Have one more of those votes. If no option gets 50% then, like any runoff election, throw out the last option and trot out the ballot boxes again.

After all, PR gets their own Olympic team, among other things. My opinion is "(Spit) or get off the pot"

Do they cost us money? If so let em go.

Guest 03-18-2012 01:41 PM

English is also the common language on the high seas for commercial shipping....ditto for commercial aviation.

The language of our country is and has been English. And like most countries in the rest of the world, if one wants to participate in the society of those countries one must learn the language.

Only in America does it become an issue and once again the lowering of the bar, lack of enforcement and permissive pacifism all for the sake of protecting a voter block.

Linguine spined politicians and those who support the watering down of America!!

btk

Guest 03-18-2012 02:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 468232)
English is also the common language on the high seas for commercial shipping....ditto for commercial aviation.

The language of our country is and has been English. And like most countries in the rest of the world, if one wants to participate in the society of those countries one must learn the language.

Only in America does it become an issue and once again the lowering of the bar, lack of enforcement and permissive pacifism all for the sake of protecting a voter block.

Linguine spined politicians and those who support the watering down of America!!

btk

Perfectly said......

:beer3::bigbow:

Guest 03-18-2012 02:59 PM

BTK Good for you. Spoken with intelligence and common sense

Guest 03-18-2012 03:03 PM

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Do they cost us money? If so let em go.

"They" are American citizens, just as you are I presume, who pay federal income tax but are not allowed to vote for president and only have one non-voting congressman.

Guest 03-18-2012 03:18 PM

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"They" are American citizens, just as you are I presume, who pay federal income tax but are not allowed to vote for president and only have one non-voting congressman.

"Sort of" pay income tax....not a criticism but you pretty much take great liberties with facts.....

"In general, United States citizens and resident aliens who are bona fide residents of Puerto Rico during the entire tax year, which for most individuals is January 1 to December 31, are only required to file a U.S. federal income tax return if they have income sources outside of Puerto Rico or if they are employees of the U.S. government. Bona fide residents of Puerto Rico generally do not report income received from sources within Puerto Rico on their U.S. income tax return. However, they should report all income received from sources outside Puerto Rico on their U.S. income tax return. Residents of Puerto Rico who are employed by the government of the United States or who are members of the armed forces of the United States also should report all income received for their services to the government of the United States on their U. S. income tax return. "

Taxation in Puerto Rico - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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