Demoracy, Finally Achieved
 

"As democracy is perfected, the office of President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright moron." -H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

An obvious reference to both Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush.

you forgot Obama after all there is a substantial number of Americans that rank Obama as a lesser POTUS than Carter!!

btk

The Snopes entry for this is even more interesting.
 

Guess it depends on how you define "substantial". Please post the link for the basis of your comment.

Survey Ranks Obama 15th Best President, Bush Among Worst - US News and World Report

substantial is a relative term....make it what ever makes one happy (or not)...
links are wonderful we can google and find a fit for almost anything...eh?

btk

substantial is not a relative term. It has a definite meaning to all that hear or read it. Nice try.

Actually the United States achieved this position many presidents back.

I see - so, in other words, your comment that .... "you forgot Obama after all there is a substantial number of Americans that rank Obama as a lesser POTUS than Carter!!" is made up.

Kinda figured as much .....

Gallup polls revealed that Junior Bush was the worst president since Harding.

Amen to that!

Historians will make that judgement, not current polls.

While I am no big fan of GWB, I would point out that the consensus opinion of Harry Truman at the end of his term was very low.

Folks I took the OP's purpose for sharing this quote as a reminder that we need to take our right to vote as a serious obligation as our selection materially affects our lives.

I did not beleive the OP was directing the quote at any specific president.

Having said that the quote was made in 1920 at the time Woodrow Wilson, Democrat was President.

The true test of a president's legacy is not in his lifetime and only history will really reveal an unbias prospective of a bush, Obama, etc. Look at the changes in opinion concerning FDR from our father's days to the present.
IMHO history will settle those questions

And now Truman is considered in the top 10 best!!!

My opinion has always been....on football polls do not rate them until they have played at least six games.......how many years equals six games..a lot !

I apply the same philosophy to those who rank Presidents !

take your pick:

sub·stan·tial
   [suhb-stan-shuhl] Show IPA
adjective
1.
of ample or considerable amount, quantity, size, etc.: a substantial sum of money.
2.
of a corporeal or material nature; tangible; real.
3.
of solid character or quality; firm, stout, or strong: a substantial physique.
4.
basic or essential; fundamental: two stories in substantial agreement.
5.
wealthy or influential: one of the substantial men of the town.

Hmmmnnnn I wonder if there is a specific for "considerable"? I kinda thought substantial was relative....eh? Considerable would mean one thing to a poor person VS what it might mean to Warren Buffet. Last I checked....substantial works the same way!!

Maybe I should have said:
a bunch
a lot
maybe a whole bunch

But they too are all relative.

And it would not matter since I was not praising Obama it would come under fire...no matter what.

btk

...and a very "substantial" number of American voters believe that the current Republican slate of candidates are not worth a bowl of warm spit.

I'll accept that as a back handed concession!

btk

Can you provide a source for the "Warm Spit Poll"?