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Taltarzac725 03-25-2012 06:39 AM

When tinfoil hats are not enough---UFOs?
 
Anyone else believe in UFOs? I agree with that genius Stephen Hawking who thinks that they are out there but they would probably be hostile if they visited us in force. I cannot see an intelligent species on some other planet who also have peaceful intentions even bothering to come to earth with the amount of environmental and political problems we have here on this planet. Earth would just be too violent and dirty a place to stay for a peaceful species from outer space.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Spa...ry?id=10478157


Other good links-- http://gizmodo.com/5875481/the-possi...rdinarily-high
http://discovermagazine.com/topics/s...rrestrial-life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life
http://www.space.com/14295-alien-lif...arf-stars.html

Taltarzac725 03-26-2012 01:37 PM

This is a very interesting development about UFOs.
 
Russian Roswell UFO Debris Is Part Of Area 51 Exhibit At National Atomic Testing Museum

rubicon 03-26-2012 01:53 PM

A few years back we had this very discussion on TOTV. I said it then and I will say it now in august 1969 at about 3:00 PM on bright sunny day with blue sky and no clouds I was on my way from work. I was on a road named Short Cut because it was connected two state highways.

I saw a bright shiny object from my left and immediately pulled onto the left shoulder of the road. By the time that I exited my car and in the distance perhaps a mile or less was a giantic spacecraft just hovering over a hill and blocking out the horizon. I did not see any lights, nor windows and absoultely no sound. It was as if I was underneath a giantic stainless steel bowl.

It occured to me that I had a camera in my car that I used in association with my biusines. I reached in the window grabbed the camera and while aiming that crafted lifted so quickly and left making a back ward Z that I never had time to get off a photo.

I never told my wife about this encounter until 1973. To this day she is afraid of rdicule and asks me not to talk about it.

I know what I saw. It was real. It was a real______you fill in the blanks all I know is I have never tol this day witness an aircraft that could move in such a lighting fast manner. I was spellbound.

OK now you can have your fun with me.

mrfixit 03-26-2012 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 471845)
in august 1969 at about 3:00 PM on bright sunny day with blue sky and no clouds
I saw a bright shiny object...in the distance...was a giantic SPACECRAFT hovering over a hill and blocking out the horizon. I did not see any lights, nor windows and absoultely no sound. It was as if I was underneath a giantic stainless steel bowl.
craft lifted so quickly and left making a back ward Z that I never had time to get off a photo.

I know what I saw. It was real. It was a real______you fill in the blanks all I know is I have never tol this day witness an aircraft that could move in such a lighting fast manner. I was spellbound.
OK now you can have your fun with me.

...will not make fun of you....Just wish I was with you and could have seen it myself.
....Fill IN the BLANK............"Exciting"

...Just wondering....were you anywhere NEAR High Voltage OVERHEAD Transmission Lines (HVOTL)???.

I personally know of at least 4 others who have seen objects at NIGHT hovering VERY near the HVOTL Tower ....described as at least 250 feet across and 50 feet high....with a white hot looking beam directed at the HVOTL Tower. {We have similar HVOTL towers running along the Lake Co. - Sumter Co. line .....and thru the Villages.} Each person saw them at NIGHT and also described a band of light about 6 feet high between the top and bottom halves of the object.

Barefoot 03-26-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 471845)
A few years back we had this very discussion on TOTV. I said it then and I will say it now in august 1969 at about 3:00 PM on bright sunny day with blue sky and no clouds I was on my way from work. I was on a road named Short Cut because it was connected two state highways.

I saw a bright shiny object from my left and immediately pulled onto the left shoulder of the road. By the time that I exited my car and in the distance perhaps a mile or less was a giantic spacecraft just hovering over a hill and blocking out the horizon. I did not see any lights, nor windows and absoultely no sound. It was as if I was underneath a giantic stainless steel bowl.

It occured to me that I had a camera in my car that I used in association with my biusines. I reached in the window grabbed the camera and while aiming that crafted lifted so quickly and left making a back ward Z that I never had time to get off a photo.

I never told my wife about this encounter until 1973. To this day she is afraid of rdicule and asks me not to talk about it.

I know what I saw. It was real. It was a real______you fill in the blanks all I know is I have never tol this day witness an aircraft that could move in such a lighting fast manner. I was spellbound.

OK now you can have your fun with me.

I think you're very lucky to have seen a UFO. Was there anything in the press about other sightings in August 1969 in that area?

CatskillBill 03-26-2012 10:04 PM

Yeah Rubicon, I saw something similar that summer also. Could it be a coincidence ?

Woodstock Music & Art Fair (informally, Woodstock or The Woodstock Festival) was a music festival, billed as "An Aquarian Exposition: 3 Days of Peace & Music". It was held at Max Yasgur's 600-acre dairy farm in the Catskills near the hamlet of White Lake in the town of Bethel, New York, from August 15 to August 18, 1969. Bethel, in Sullivan County, is 43 miles (69 km) southwest of the town of Woodstock, New York, in adjoining Ulster County.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist being it was the same year, 1969.

Gerald 03-27-2012 04:46 AM

All this fuss about UFO's. Lets get some facts. Traveling at or near the speed of light how long do you think it would take for an object to travel from the nearest solar system to us. The answer is longer then we are alive and several generations of travel.

May be you think the UFO's are in our system OK. Lets say they are. If they are capable to travel at the speed needed and have some type of ship to get them here. They would also have the tech. knowledge to be able to view and examine us without landing. They would not interact with us because that would change the study of how we live and react to things. Basicly once you know that they are there the study is over.
You need to understand that if someone or some thing can get here they know a lot more then we do.
You now have three choices you can believe. One if you really saw a visitor you are probably on their menu. Or two what you saw was not anything more then wishful dreaming, something that was caused by us on this planet. Or Three you saw one of our governmental leadership landing. For sure they come from another place they sure don't care about the people on this planet.

Taltarzac725 03-27-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 472086)
All this fuss about UFO's. Lets get some facts. Traveling at or near the speed of light how long do you think it would take for an object to travel from the nearest solar system to us. The answer is longer then we are alive and several generations of travel.

May be you think the UFO's are in our system OK. Lets say they are. If they are capable to travel at the speed needed and have some type of ship to get them here. They would also have the tech. knowledge to be able to view and examine us without landing. They would not interact with us because that would change the study of how we live and react to things. Basicly once you know that they are there the study is over.
You need to understand that if someone or some thing can get here they know a lot more then we do.
You now have three choices you can believe. One if you really saw a visitor you are probably on their menu. Or two what you saw was not anything more then wishful dreaming, something that was caused by us on this planet. Or Three you saw one of our governmental leadership landing. For sure they come from another place they sure don't care about the people on this planet.

Not saying I understand the physics involved but there is a possibility that a spacecraft could travel faster than the speed of light. Faster-than-light - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Figmo Bohica 03-27-2012 08:53 AM

Just waiting for the Mother Ship to come back and take us all back home, or some of you any way. Mostly our elected criminals, they surely are from another planet.

On a serious side, I do believe that there is life on other planets. Some will be way more advanced that us and some will be way behind us. Can you go faster than the speed of light, well we can't as of yet, but who is to say that, that technology has not been invented someplace else. I will reserve judgement until it is proved one way or another, and greet the visitors will all due respect.

skyguy79 03-27-2012 09:26 AM

The one and only time I thought I saw a space craft, I was 18 years old and parking in the General Electirc parking lot waiting for my father to get out of work. The car was facing south and when I looked out my door window to the east I thought I saw a bright saucer looking object in the window. I rolled down the window and it disappeared. So I rolled up the window back up and it was back there as quickly as it disappeared when I rolled the window down.

It took me a minuted, but I finally figured out what it was. Can you guess? Well it turned out to be that I just happened to be positioned just right to be seeing a reflection in the window from one of the parking light structure's light globes on the west side of the vehicle. Just in case I do encounter an alien visitor in the future, I thing I'll start carrying a guest book and ask them to sign it!

Taltarzac725 03-28-2012 01:05 PM

More on UFOs.
 
NASA UFO Files Revealed On Science Channel Special

angiefox10 03-28-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 472658)


I haven't seen one, but I don't discount anything.

So many things we "earthlings" believed and learned that we were so very wrong.

We are still learning and discovering. I would like to keep my mind open to all possibilities.

Taltarzac725 04-29-2012 09:53 AM

Interesting link about UFOs.
 
UFOs Over Russia: Mysterious Sights Spotted In St. Petersburg Sky

Taltarzac725 05-11-2012 02:22 PM

Close Encounter of the Art Kind.
 
Alien Abduction Stories Inspire Photographer Steven Hirsch (PHOTOS)

Villages PL 05-12-2012 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 472152)

Just thought I'd borrow your spaceship to set the mood for a poem I wrote on 05/09/2001. Thanks.

Traveling To Infinity:

If you're in a cozy spacecraft,
traveling at the speed of light,
on your way to find infinity,
hang in there just sit tight.

You'll know it when you get there,
turn left and then turn right,
another trillion light-years,
hang in there just sit tight.

You've got your protein snacks, and tangerines,
soy dogs, almonds, and this and that,
you've got some books and magazines,
even your sister's cat.

So full speed ahead to infinity,
it's somewhere 'round the bend,
it could be in this vicinity,
good luck, Godspeed my friend.

Taltarzac725 05-12-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 491603)
Just thought I'd borrow your spaceship to set the mood for a poem I wrote on 05/09/2001. Thanks.

Traveling To Infinity:

If you're in a cozy spacecraft,
traveling at the speed of light,
on your way to find infinity,
hang in there just sit tight.

You'll know it when you get there,
turn left and then turn right,
another trillion light-years,
hang in there just sit tight.

You've got your protein snacks, and tangerines,
soy dogs, almonds, and this and that,
you've got some books and magazines,
even your sister's cat.

So full speed ahead to infinity,
it's somewhere 'round the bend,
it could be in this vicinity,
good luck, Godspeed my friend.

Good poem, VillagesPL. Just hope they do not run into an Alien like those from the Alien movies. I'd would think that if there is life on other plants much of it will resemble the creatures that lived on earth 500 million years ago.

Taltarzac725 05-17-2012 08:05 AM

I would assume there is a lot to this amnesty offer.
 
UFO Amnesty: Ex-Army Colonel John Alexander Seeks Amnesty For Military Who Witness UFOs [EXCLUSIVE]

"'The reason is because we all had very high-level security clearances,' he said. 'Just the mention of seeing something that you didn't know or you thought might be a UFO would be enough for a visit with the flight surgeon, if not the psychiatric staff at the base hospital.



'And that would be reason to pull your security clearance, at least temporarily, which means that you wouldn't be flying and that would be a black mark on an aviator's record. Seeing a UFO show up on your base could be perceived as [your] being unstable. At least as far as retribution or career penalties, if things could be lifted or suspended, that would probably help the process.'"

From above linked Amnesty article on UFO sightings by the military.

Taltarzac725 05-25-2012 08:43 AM

Men in black and ufo sighters.
 
'Men In Black' Inspired By Scary Stories Of People Who've Seen UFOs

Taltarzac725 06-10-2012 02:13 PM

San Diego Fair tries to bring in space aliens.
 
Extraterrestrials Encouraged To Visit San Diego County Fair

senior citizen 06-13-2012 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 471204)
Anyone else believe in UFOs? I agree with that genius Stephen Hawking who thinks that they are out there but they would probably be hostile if they visited us in force. I cannot see an intelligent species on some other planet who also have peaceful intentions even bothering to come to earth with the amount of environmental and political problems we have here on this planet. Earth would just be too violent and dirty a place to stay for a peaceful species from outer space.

Stephen Hawking: Alien Contact Could Be Risky - ABC News


Other good links-- The Possibility of Alien Life Is Now (Almost) Impossible to Deny
Extraterrestrial Life | Science News, Articles | Discover Magazine
Extraterrestrial life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Alien Life May Depend on Planetary Tilt | Alien Planets & Solar Systems | Earth & Axial Tilt | Space.com

My husband , who always was the biggest skeptic re U.F.O.'s or anything that he couldn't see, touch, taste.......in other words, anything unworldly at all HE DID NOT BELIEVE IN...........whereas I did.

Until.......one day in the winter, not too long ago, on his birthday as a matter of fact, he was driving down to a neighbor's home to deliver a college recommendation letter for our friend's daughter.......he had the window open, even though it was winter, as he was smoking in the car.

TOTALLY SILENT..........(so not a helicopter), a HUGE CIRCULAR DISK
CAME ABOVE THE CAR.........HARD TO TELL IN THE EVENING LIGHT, BUT HE WOULD ESTIMATE 300 OR 400 FEET UP ABOVE HIM.........he immediately pulled the car over to the right, looked out his left driver's side window and watched this circular object moving slowly to the northwest. He was aware of two things........number one there was absolutely no sound coming from it.....and number two, there were four lights coming down from it........twelve o clock, three o clock, six o clock and nine o clock positions.........but what mostly disturbed him was for such a large object to be absolutely quiet as it was moving through the air..............he knows what an airplane or helicopter would sound like.
This object was SILENT..........and he was not drinking nor doing drugs.
In about 20 seconds it slowly moved off into the distance. The lights were white. He would estimate it to be somewhere between 200 and 300 feet in diameter.......just guessing. It was large.

He became a believer.

A few weeks later, a local carpenter told him he had been coming into town from a different direction and about the same night, saw an object zoom off into the distance. When comparing notes, it seemed to be one and the same. A local florist said she would see similar objects going towards the hospital. Meaning "over the mountain". Back in the 1970's, priests, teachers, realtors, etc. and others in town saw hovering blue lights..........above our town, not moving, just hovering.............then would zoom off.

Taltarzac725 06-13-2012 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 505425)
My husband , who always was the biggest skeptic re U.F.O.'s or anything that he couldn't see, touch, taste.......in other words, anything unworldly at all HE DID NOT BELIEVE IN...........whereas I did.

Until.......one day in the winter, not too long ago, on his birthday as a matter of fact, he was driving down to a neighbor's home to deliver a college recommendation letter for our friend's daughter.......he had the window open, even though it was winter, as he was smoking in the car.

TOTALLY SILENT..........(so not a helicopter), a HUGE CIRCULAR DISK
CAME ABOVE THE CAR.........HARD TO TELL IN THE EVENING LIGHT, BUT HE WOULD ESTIMATE 300 OR 400 FEET UP ABOVE HIM.........he immediately pulled the car over to the right, looked out his left driver's side window and watched this circular object moving slowly to the northwest. He was aware of two things........number one there was absolutely no sound coming from it.....and number two, there were four lights coming down from it........twelve o clock, three o clock, six o clock and nine o clock positions.........but what mostly disturbed him was for such a large object to be absolutely quiet as it was moving through the air..............he knows what an airplane or helicopter would sound like.
This object was SILENT..........and he was not drinking nor doing drugs.
In about 20 seconds it slowly moved off into the distance. The lights were white. He would estimate it to be somewhere between 200 and 300 feet in diameter.......just guessing. It was large.

He became a believer.

A few weeks later, a local carpenter told him he had been coming into town from a different direction and about the same night, saw an object zoom off into the distance. When comparing notes, it seemed to be one and the same. A local florist said she would see similar objects going towards the hospital. Meaning "over the mountain". Back in the 1970's, priests, teachers, realtors, etc. and others in town saw hovering blue lights..........above our town, not moving, just hovering.............then would zoom off.

That's a good narration. I would think that if there is intelligent life somewhere close to us in space, they would want to keep an eye on us so to speak but probably not want to give us any advanced technology.

senior citizen 06-13-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 505449)
That's a good narration. I would think that if there is intelligent life somewhere close to us in space, they would want to keep an eye on us so to speak but probably not want to give us any advanced technology.

Well, I believed him. Knowing him as I do, and knowing what a total skeptic he always was........a true "doubting Thomas", he was so freaked out by what he saw, it had to be something........and again, I've always believed in U.F.O.'s..........not necessarily all sightings are true, but I do think there has to be life elsewhere.

My friend, to whose house he was delivering the typed letter, said she'd never seen him so jittery and shaken. It really impressed him.

I used to think they would be highly spiritual / intelligent, etc. but the past few years or so I've thought "What if they are predators and looking for a new food source". Yikes.

Anyway, at the same time this "sighting" occurred, we were having our home vinyl sided........the next day I told the 3 workmen. Well, they thought it was hilarious......and said it had to be a glider. A glider in January in the dark of evening????? That big?

He said it was NOT a glider. This was after suppertime.....so 6:30 p.m. and dark out....in the winter.

Anyway, I think I was the only one who believed him. If anything, he got a dose of how he used to react to other people's recountings of odd circumstances.

rubicon 06-13-2012 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 505425)
My husband , who always was the biggest skeptic re U.F.O.'s or anything that he couldn't see, touch, taste.......in other words, anything unworldly at all HE DID NOT BELIEVE IN...........whereas I did.

Until.......one day in the winter, not too long ago, on his birthday as a matter of fact, he was driving down to a neighbor's home to deliver a college recommendation letter for our friend's daughter.......he had the window open, even though it was winter, as he was smoking in the car.

TOTALLY SILENT..........(so not a helicopter), a HUGE CIRCULAR DISK
CAME ABOVE THE CAR.........HARD TO TELL IN THE EVENING LIGHT, BUT HE WOULD ESTIMATE 300 OR 400 FEET UP ABOVE HIM.........he immediately pulled the car over to the right, looked out his left driver's side window and watched this circular object moving slowly to the northwest. He was aware of two things........number one there was absolutely no sound coming from it.....and number two, there were four lights coming down from it........twelve o clock, three o clock, six o clock and nine o clock positions.........but what mostly disturbed him was for such a large object to be absolutely quiet as it was moving through the air..............he knows what an airplane or helicopter would sound like.
This object was SILENT..........and he was not drinking nor doing drugs.
In about 20 seconds it slowly moved off into the distance. The lights were white. He would estimate it to be somewhere between 200 and 300 feet in diameter.......just guessing. It was large.

He became a believer.

A few weeks later, a local carpenter told him he had been coming into town from a different direction and about the same night, saw an object zoom off into the distance. When comparing notes, it seemed to be one and the same. A local florist said she would see similar objects going towards the hospital. Meaning "over the mountain". Back in the 1970's, priests, teachers, realtors, etc. and others in town saw hovering blue lights..........above our town, not moving, just hovering.............then would zoom off.

senior citizen my accout is on page one. My experience occured during an afternoon on an august day in 1969. I was traveling on Short Cut Road that conneceed State routes 5 and 20 in upstate New York

The object I saw was also totally silent I saw no lights no windows etc minly because I was so close to this huge object that i was okking up under it but not under it. It had spped and manuverability that I still have not seen matched to this day.

senior citizen 06-13-2012 04:25 PM

Project Blue Book
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 505504)
senior citizen my accout is on page one. My experience occured during an afternoon on an august day in 1969. I was traveling on Short Cut Road that conneceed State routes 5 and 20 in upstate New York

The object I saw was also totally silent I saw no lights no windows etc minly because I was so close to this huge object that i was okking up under it but not under it. It had spped and manuverability that I still have not seen matched to this day.


Why it disturbed my husband was that it had no normal sound of any aircraft that he had ever seen.....no jet engine sound, no piston engine sound, no sound of a helicopter blades beating into the air.....

For an object as large as what he saw to be absolutely SILENT dumbfounded him. It sounds similar to your sighting.

I always wanted him to post it on M.U.F.O.N. or something like that, but he never did.

He did call our local police........they probably thought he was nuts.
He called the Plattsburgh Air Force Base........same deal.

He thought it might be something from our government but we don't live near a government facility. It was if he was seeing something that he should not be seeing.

Awhile later, at a funeral, we were in the presence of two Air Force guys, one a general at the Pentagon and the other a Colonel , both in the Air Force........brothers in law actually. I asked them about Project Blue Book, etc. and told them our "story". They just "smiled" as they knowingly looked at each other and at one of the officer's sons who was also in the Air Force, a Captain. He was more willing to talk about Project Blue Book than his dad, the General or his Uncle, the Colonel.

The older guys were not going to discuss anything, even though they were family friends. The young son was very much interested. He later left* the Air Force to fly passenger jets out of Colorado. Went from active duty to reserves. The grandson of a dear friend of ours.

Anyway, we believe you.

senior citizen 06-13-2012 04:29 PM

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