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BarryRX 03-26-2012 03:11 PM

Seabreeze Pool Question
 
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graciegirl 03-26-2012 03:16 PM

I think that is awful.

Can you call the recreation department and see what they say?

lovesports 03-26-2012 03:22 PM

Just an opinion but I think it is ridiculous to close a whole sports pool for one or two people. They sure are entitled to the space they need, but when the whole rest of the pool is empty???
Friendliest should mean sharing if it makes common sense.

tracy1j 03-26-2012 03:23 PM

I agree, that is awful. I would have been upset as well, and it doesn't seem right. : (

cappyjon431 03-26-2012 03:37 PM

Sounds very unfair to me. You pay for the use of the pool, and even volleyball, water aerobics, etc. are activities that you could participate in IF you wanted. A private class (especially such a small on) takes away your opportunity to enjoy an amenity that you pay for every month.

Taltarzac725 03-26-2012 03:40 PM

Does not seem like a common sense approach to doing things here in the Villages.

Maybe someone should have requested the Villages employee to ask the Lifelong Learning swimming instructor if other Villagers might use the pool along with the swimming students.

paulandjean 03-26-2012 04:03 PM

No big deal.

gatherer47 03-26-2012 04:12 PM

I think it is a big deal.We pay for the use of that pool.Whomever made this decision used poor judgement!

jojo 03-26-2012 04:41 PM

Not too late to amend your Villages survey.

BarryRX 03-26-2012 04:54 PM

Thanks everyone for your replies. I think I'm going to take Gracie's advice and speak to the rec department and see what they say.

memason 03-26-2012 04:58 PM

They rent those sports pools for private functions all the time... I know the Villages Parrotheads have a private pool party every year at one of the pools. All us Parrotheads are Villages residents.

Besides, I would guess that the folks you saw in the pool (all 2 of them) are Villages residents and have paid the same amenity fees we have.

JoeC1947 03-26-2012 04:59 PM

Sneak by and drop a baby ruth in the pool:MOJE_whot:

Uptown Girl 03-26-2012 05:15 PM

Hold on.....please!
 
I disagree with these complaints.

The pool is closed for two hours out of a WHOLE day.
That covers TWO classes back to back.

The fact is these VILLAGERS are paying the Llifelong Learning College for a course to learn to swim. The College rented the pool for these two hours to run the class. If there was miscomunication in posting it in the paper, well, it's not the instructor's fault. Stuff happens.

It doesn't matter how many showed up on that particular day. Stuff happens.

When I take water aerobics, the pool is limited to only those in the class DURING the class. (and my class is free to residents, not paid.) Nobody waves their hands in the air over that. Men's water volleyball is right after my class.
Sorry, but you can't do laps in the middle of THAT either.

There are many other sport pools/family pools that you can go to if you HAVE to go at that particular time. You help pay for THEM too, so you aren't denied your amenities one little bit.
I'd like to say,"Kwitcherbichin.... but that's probably not nice, is it.
Stop bellyaching if you don't mind. The universe does not revolve around you. Does that sound better?

paulandjean 03-26-2012 06:18 PM

Like I said."No big deal". Lots of groups rent out the rec. centers. Geeezzz, you missed a little pool time, come on.

JoeC1947 03-26-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uptown Girl (Post 471939)
I disagree with these complaints.

The pool is closed for two hours out of a WHOLE day.
That covers TWO classes back to back.

The fact is these VILLAGERS are paying the Llifelong Learning College for a course to learn to swim. The College rented the pool for these two hours to run the class. If there was miscomunication in posting it in the paper, well, it's not the instructor's fault. Stuff happens.

It doesn't matter how many showed up on that particular day. Stuff happens.

When I take water aerobics, the pool is limited to only those in the class DURING the class. (and my class is free to residents, not paid.) Nobody waves their hands in the air over that. Men's water volleyball is right after my class.
Sorry, but you can't do laps in the middle of THAT either.

There are many other sport pools/family pools that you can go to if you HAVE to go at that particular time. You help pay for THEM too, so you aren't denied your amenities one little bit.
I'd like to say,"Kwitcherbichin.... but that's probably not nice, is it.
Stop bellyaching if you don't mind. The universe does not revolve around you. Does that sound better?

Someone took a nasty pill today!

Skybo 03-26-2012 06:32 PM

They definitely should have listed it in the Rec News. I can understand being a little upset about that...I would feel the same way if I showed up for a scheduled event and something else was going on. But aside from that, I agree with Uptown Girl. Swimming lessons are no different than any other organized events that are held in the sports pools. It doesn’t matter how many people show up, the pool is reserved for that event during that time.

Sweetgirl 03-26-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybo (Post 471964)
They definitely should have listed it in the Rec News. I can understand being a little upset about that...I would feel the same way if I showed up for a scheduled event and something else was going on. But aside from that, I agree with Uptown Girl. Swimming lessons are no different than any other organized events that are held in the sports pools. It doesn’t matter how many people show up, the pool is reserved for that event during that time.

Uptown, could have made her point with out being so RUDE!:rant-rave:

NotGolfer 03-26-2012 06:47 PM

Ahhhh...this would explain why Colony Pool is so crowded! It wasn't fun last week to try to get combo-time in with folks over-lapping the lanes and swimmers in the walking lanes as well.

looneycat 03-26-2012 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeC1947 (Post 471933)
Sneak by and drop a baby ruth in the pool:MOJE_whot:

and play the theme music from Jaws over the fence....da dum..da dum..

:MOJE_whot:

bestmickey 03-26-2012 06:59 PM

I have a question. Is the Lifelong Learning College for Villages' residents only, or can "outsiders" take their classes too?

Mudder 03-26-2012 07:00 PM

I happened to go to Seabreeze pool about the same time today, maybe a little earlier. I wanted to show some visitors where I sometimes swim my laps. I saw the sign too but just went right out on the deck. There were about 6 people swimming laps. I didn't see the instructor anywhere. It would have upset me greatly if I came to swim laps and couldn't because the instructor was using one lane. I'm happy that they offer swim lessons, but seriously don't think they need to shut the whole pool down. I've been there when scuba lessons were going on and we lap swimmers were using some of the lanes. When a group rents the pool for a party I think it has to be on a Sunday afternoon. If they shut down the pool every Mon. and Weds., especially without warning, that's just not right. They know how many people signed up for lessons and then can determine how much room is needed. Now that I think of it in the past i have been there with lessons going on and we were still able to lap swim.
Please report what you find out from rec. dept. I'm with you, it irks me.

seashorecaroline 03-26-2012 07:20 PM

I was one of the people who signed up through the Lifelong Learning College to take the beginner swimming lessons from 2 to 3 on Mondays and Wednesdays. I have to tell you that the majority of the people who came wanting to swim laps were unbelievably rude!!!! It is true the classes were not listed in the activities paper but was not the fault of the teacher. The rec centers are the ones who put the activities in the paper and they definitely screwed up. They did post signs on the front doors with very, very bright yellow paper but some people still came in and gave the teacher a hard time. Granted today which was the last day of class there were only four of us but the class did start with 12 people each of us being taught in individual lanes. Several people were so deathly afraid of the of putting their face in the water they just never came back.

What I don't understand is why are people complaining about the Lifelong Learning College renting the pool. We all paid a pretty penny to take these lessons and were more than willing to because of the reputation of the swimming instructor. Back in the fall I paid to take line dancing classes through the College and I didn't hear anyone complaining about the room in the rec center being rented out for those classes.

Truthfully with all the pools in the Villages I am appalled at all the nasty, rude and inconsiderate people who came into our class and wanted to argue it out with our instructor. For goodness sakes...... it was only 6 classes!!!!

I have only been in the Villages for a little less than a year and am shocked at the behavior of the people we encountered during this class. All I can say is with as may pools that there are in the Villages if I ever complain about not being able to go to one of them because classes are being held then please.... just shoot me!!!!!!!

graciegirl 03-26-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seashorecaroline (Post 471986)
I was one of the people who signed up through the Lifelong Learning College to take the beginner swimming lessons from 2 to 3 on Mondays and Wednesdays. I have to tell you that the majority of the people who came wanting to swim laps were unbelievably rude!!!! It is true the classes were not listed in the activities paper but was not the fault of the teacher. The rec centers are the ones who put the activities in the paper and they definitely screwed up. They did post signs on the front doors with very, very bright yellow paper but some people still came in and gave the teacher a hard time. Granted today which was the last day of class there were only four of us but the class did start with 12 people each of us being taught in individual lanes. Several people were so deathly afraid of the of putting their face in the water they just never came back.

What I don't understand is why are people complaining about the Lifelong Learning College renting the pool. We all paid a pretty penny to take these lessons and were more than willing to because of the reputation of the swimming instructor. Back in the fall I paid to take line dancing classes through the College and I didn't hear anyone complaining about the room in the rec center being rented out for those classes.

Truthfully with all the pools in the Villages I am appalled at all the nasty, rude and inconsiderate people who came into our class and wanted to argue it out with our instructor. For goodness sakes...... it was only 6 classes!!!!

I have only been in the Villages for a little less than a year and am shocked at the behavior of the people we encountered during this class. All I can say is with as may pools that there are in the Villages if I ever complain about not being able to go to one of them because classes are being held then please.... just shoot me!!!!!!!

I am so sorry to hear about the rudeness. To me there is NO excuse for that. Gentlemen and gentlewomen do not act like trash when they are faced with a disappointment or altered plans. I cannot get over it. I believe that some people are taught to talk back and argue down others and some people...like where I am from are taught to hold their tongue and make their complaint to someone who can change things.

Don't give up on all of us, please. I hope someone will shoot me, if I act like that over something that is not life threatening...and only inconveniencing.

I am the one who thought having two in a class was awful, but now I see that in the beginning there were 12 and each was using a lane.

We learn so much on this forum if we listen to others and knowledge has altered my view manys the time.

Uptown Girl 03-26-2012 07:54 PM

Thanks, Gracie.

seashorecaroline 03-26-2012 07:55 PM

Thanks Gracie!!! If only the people who are the complainers would take the time to find out the full details before they fly off the handle. And just to let you know..... I don't own a gun. :)

BarryRX 03-26-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seashorecaroline (Post 471986)
I was one of the people who signed up through the Lifelong Learning College to take the beginner swimming lessons from 2 to 3 on Mondays and Wednesdays. I have to tell you that the majority of the people who came wanting to swim laps were unbelievably rude!!!! It is true the classes were not listed in the activities paper but was not the fault of the teacher. The rec centers are the ones who put the activities in the paper and they definitely screwed up. They did post signs on the front doors with very, very bright yellow paper but some people still came in and gave the teacher a hard time. Granted today which was the last day of class there were only four of us but the class did start with 12 people each of us being taught in individual lanes. Several people were so deathly afraid of the of putting their face in the water they just never came back.

What I don't understand is why are people complaining about the Lifelong Learning College renting the pool. We all paid a pretty penny to take these lessons and were more than willing to because of the reputation of the swimming instructor. Back in the fall I paid to take line dancing classes through the College and I didn't hear anyone complaining about the room in the rec center being rented out for those classes.

Truthfully with all the pools in the Villages I am appalled at all the nasty, rude and inconsiderate people who came into our class and wanted to argue it out with our instructor. For goodness sakes...... it was only 6 classes!!!!

I have only been in the Villages for a little less than a year and am shocked at the behavior of the people we encountered during this class. All I can say is with as may pools that there are in the Villages if I ever complain about not being able to go to one of them because classes are being held then please.... just shoot me!!!!!!!

Just to be clear....I am the original poster, but I wasn't rude to anyone. In fact I didn't speak to anyone in the pool. I spoke to the guy in the rec center, and I certainly wasn't rude to him either. From the replies it seems that some people think it's ok and some don't. But I must add that I am becoming a little worried about the lack of civility in some of the replies to not only my post, but to many others as well. But that is probably the subject of another thread.

VillagerNut 03-26-2012 08:21 PM

I know of a lady that comes to the Parrothead get togethers that is not a Villager. How does that happen?

graciegirl 03-26-2012 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 472003)
Just to be clear....I am the original poster, but I wasn't rude to anyone. In fact I didn't speak to anyone in the pool. I spoke to the guy in the rec center, and I certainly wasn't rude to him either. From the replies it seems that some people think it's ok and some don't. But I must add that I am becoming a little worried about the lack of civility in some of the replies to not only my post, but to many others as well. But that is probably the subject of another thread.

I can tell you are a nice person. I feel bad for everyone who just wants to exercise and there isn't room. And I know how annoyed I would be changing into swimwear and driving over to find I couldn't swim.

Whalen 03-26-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestmickey (Post 471977)
I have a question. Is the Lifelong Learning College for Villages' residents only, or can "outsiders" take their classes too?

If you check the catalog you will see that most classes are open to the general public.

ilovetv 03-26-2012 10:25 PM

If I were teaching a swim class that had dwindled to the point of using only 2 lanes while 8 or 10 lanes sit unused, I would let the people who showed up use those open lanes. They'd be disturbing nobody.

It is very crowded when trying to get lap pool time, especially at Seabreeze, from 3-6 p.m.

swimdawg 03-26-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 472063)
If I were teaching a swim class that had dwindled to the point of using only 2 lanes while 8 or 10 lanes sit unused, I would let the people who showed up use those open lanes. They'd be disturbing nobody.

It is very crowded when trying to get lap pool time, especially at Seabreeze, from 3-6 p.m.

I agree. Every time I go to Seabreeze between 3 - 6, there are no lap lanes available. Up north, we share a lane if the lanes are all taken. But when I asked if I could share a lane at Seabreeze, I've been told rather curtly, "NO!". I sometimes ask the water walkers if I can swim in their half and they've been very kind to allow me to swim while they water walk. Do lap swimmers at Seabreeze "own their lanes"????

NotGolfer 03-26-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swimdawg (Post 472067)
I agree. Every time I go to Seabreeze between 3 - 6, there are no lap lanes available. Up north, we share a lane if the lanes are all taken. But when I asked if I could share a lane at Seabreeze, I've been told rather curtly, "NO!". I sometimes ask the water walkers if I can swim in their half and they've been very kind to allow me to swim while they water walk. Do lap swimmers at Seabreeze "own their lanes"????

It's been my experience (this year) that folks who come to Colony pool sometimes don't realize that we can share the lanes...at least for walking. What is the thought on people swimming laps amongst the walkers w/o asking? I would think safety could be an issue. ( Glad Swimdawg that you were able to to share.) Did you use the lane closest to the blue ropes?? I do hope that there will be more sport pools south of 466A!!!!

Up north there was a sign posted that if you'd already done 30 minutes and the lanes were full to move out of the pool so others could have their chance. Also, as Swimdawg speaks of (and I"m sure we weren't from the same area) folks who swam shared the lane when it was needed. Just a couple of thoughts!!!

2 Oldcrabs 03-27-2012 05:41 AM

With 50 plus pools in TV, I do not see a problem with closing one for a couple of hours for swim lessons. SAVING CHAIRS at the town center is a problem! Oh that's for another post

paulandjean 03-27-2012 06:09 AM

Boy is it getting bad here.What a bunch of complainers.Do you really see this as a big problem.My goodness go to another pool.Certainly seens that we are the "ME" generations. Had kids up north looking at this posts,they could not stop laughing. Grow Up.

jblum315 03-27-2012 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestmickey (Post 471977)
I have a question. Is the Lifelong Learning College for Villages' residents only, or can "outsiders" take their classes too?

I believe non-residents can take the classes but they have to pay more.

Bogie Shooter 03-27-2012 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 471928)
Thanks everyone for your replies. I think I'm going to take Gracie's advice and speak to the rec department and see what they say.

So, what did the rec department have to say??

Bogie Shooter 03-27-2012 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uptown Girl (Post 471939)
I disagree with these complaints.

The pool is closed for two hours out of a WHOLE day.
That covers TWO classes back to back.

The fact is these VILLAGERS are paying the Llifelong Learning College for a course to learn to swim. The College rented the pool for these two hours to run the class. If there was miscomunication in posting it in the paper, well, it's not the instructor's fault. Stuff happens.

It doesn't matter how many showed up on that particular day. Stuff happens.

When I take water aerobics, the pool is limited to only those in the class DURING the class. (and my class is free to residents, not paid.) Nobody waves their hands in the air over that. Men's water volleyball is right after my class.
Sorry, but you can't do laps in the middle of THAT either.

There are many other sport pools/family pools that you can go to if you HAVE to go at that particular time. You help pay for THEM too, so you aren't denied your amenities one little bit.
I'd like to say,"Kwitcherbichin.... but that's probably not nice, is it.
Stop bellyaching if you don't mind. The universe does not revolve around you. Does that sound better?

I don't see this post as rude. It is what it is.

l2ridehd 03-27-2012 06:49 AM

I would think someone could figure out a way to have the classes use only the number of lanes they require. Maybe orange cones on the not available lanes, or a notice that lanes 1 through X are not available today between Y and Z time. One other observation is that Seabreeze seems to be one of the most popular rec center pools. Perhaps doing the classes at a less busy center. Not sure how many hours the classes take each day, but maybe doing it before the center opens or after it closes. There has to be times when LAP lane usage is not very busy, so schedule the class then. Split the class into two sessions on two different days and don't combine until the numbers drop. I would think 12 beginning swimmers with one instructor would be a bad ratio anyway from a safety concern. Maybe rotate the rec center used for the classes so that the "regulars" at a center have less impact. There has to be a way to make it work for everyone, just some smart person needs to see and understand the problem then figure out a solution.

Skybo 03-27-2012 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 Oldcrabs (Post 472098)
With 50 plus pools in TV, I do not see a problem with closing one for a couple of hours for swim lessons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 472100)
My goodness go to another pool.Certainly seens that we are the "ME" generations. Had kids up north looking at this posts,they could not stop laughing. Grow Up.

You guys do realize that we’re talking about the Sports Pools, right? There aren’t 50 Sports Pools in TV. I can only think of 3 between 466 and 466a. It’s not simply a matter of jumping back into your cart and going to the next pool down the road. You can’t swim laps in the neighborhood or family pools. And all of the Sports Pool have their own scheduled activities throughout the day.

Mudder 03-27-2012 09:13 AM

La Hacienda where I usually swim there are so many water aerobics classes and water volleyball games that the lap swimming times are few and far between. So, that is why I sometimes take a ride to Seabreeze to swim and to all of a sudden find a note on the door is annoying. I always go in my golf cart. When I find that sign I am annoyed inside myself but never say anything rude to anyone, stuff happpens, my life still goes on if I miss a day of swimming. I will say that sometimes at Seabreeze when I have asked if I can share a lane I have gotten that same NO answer. Savannah sport pool is closed for about a month(a large notice in Rec News) for repairs and maintanaice, everyone finds alternate pools.
Bye the way, I can't understand why everyone in a swim class needs their own lane, I never taught swimming where everyone had their own lane.


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