Careful folks, you may be lowering your property values
 

I am going to cancel my LSV in April because of the things I read on TOTV.
After the many post complaing of overcrowding, I ask myself who needs it?
Are the people living in The Villages so uneducated they can't manage to get thru a roundabout/rotary safely?
Are they so self centered they won't clean up after thier dog?
I can't believe how rude people can be. "Seabreeze Pool Question" thread and all the "saving seats" threads pretty much sums it up for me.

OK, so here is one more person you won't have to put up with, me. Good for you!

I won't be buying your house either. For your sake, I hope there aren't many more like me.

Thanks for letting us know Hutch!!!

As a matter of fact HUTCH , your the only one !!!!

fumar the thankful,,,,:bowdown:

There are 90,000 plus residents living in The Villages. I am surprised that you would allow a few people influence you. Have you actually spent time in The Villages? If you have not I encourage you to so you will see for yourself that there is not a better place to live in my opinion. Best of luck to you.

No, just a day, never spent any time there.

I live in some pretty nice places now.

Fumar, I love your attitude !

George Gobel once asked the question, did you ever look at the world as being a tuxedo and you were a pair of brown shoes?

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No.

I was born in the greatest and most vibrant city on the face of the earth. If you talk to many people there, you could hear about rude busy people, and too much trash, and too much crime, and arrogant police, and......if you never spent any time there and just listened to that, you would miss all that was great and wonderful about New York City.

So, you don't come and visit...........The Villages loses nothing......you, on the other hand...................

As a New Yorker I must agree, spot on dude!

Thanks, for your input and output,I don't think we'll be missin'yall

Sounds like you are fine where you are.

No problem with that here.

It's been 14 months since we bought our Gardenia, and according to Zillow the estimated value has gone up by $25,000. I for one wouldn't worry too much about the value of our property going down anywhere in the foreseeable future. Sorry TF, that you're so easily discouraged that you're willing to take the word of a relatively few about TV over learning how TV is for yourself. On the positive side, your canceling of your LSV will at least create an opening for someone else who truly wants to find out what TV's really like for themselves!

3776 homes sold in TV last 12 months. 2325 new, 1451 pre-owned. We bought 3 years ago and the prices have gone up since then. Where in the country can compare?

A little off topic, but where can I find comps on those 3700 homes, zillow isn't reporting much.

Good luck with your retirement, wherever you decide to spend it. You'll be hard pressed to find a community with the beauty, amenities, cleanliness and ambiance of The Villages. IMHO, the Developers were true visionaries.

Your right. I should see for myself. Will not cancel LSV. I shall remove myself from the flames however. It's not TV but TOTV I find discouraging.

TF, TV is not perfect, neither is TOTV. TOTV does show some of the negatives of living here and, yes, some carry the negativity to an extreme. However, you don't hear that people can't sleep because of the traffic. You don't hear that the dog issue causes odor or is constantly found on the bottom of shoes. You don't hear that people can't go to the squares and have a good time regardless of the event. The one negative that really can't be reconciled is the driving of the roundabouts. Some people just don't get it. Most of us are very aware of this and simply drive very carefully (probably a few steps above defensive driving).

I would think that anyone truly interested in purchasing a home in TV would be doing themselves a disservice avoiding TOTV. It is good to know the negatives in an area as well as the positives. Makes for a much more informed decision. Another thing to consider is the simple fact that while some may rail about certain problems, most of us love TV -- the good, the bad and the ugly.

OK, so here is one more person you won't have to put up with, me. Good for you!

I won't be buying your house either. For your sake, I hope there aren't many more like me.[/QUOTE]

My house is not for sale.......

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So why even tell us. No one really cares. You are the one posting on the site to actually complain and you don't even know about the real Villages. Your loss our gain. more room for others who know a good thing when they see it.

Come on down,, you will love it here. Just put bumpers on your car when entering the Rotary's. :pepper2:

Bye Bye Hutch:crap2:

And I think the round about issue is being addressed. Once all the new signs are in place, people who go 270 degrees in the right lane will start getting tickets. And that is the only real problem with them.

I bet he believes everything he hears on MSNBC also. hee hee hee

I may complain on TOTV, but I love it here. No place is perfect, but TOTV is pretty darn good. I hope you will go to the Lifestyle Preview and it will change your mind.

I really feel this will be your loss and think you are making a hasty judgement based on the minimal knowledge gained from TOTV, but in southern vernacular:

"Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split ya."

Sorry if that comes across as harsh, but there is just as much "good" written about TV on this board as "bad" and if you are willing to base your long term retirement happiness on what is written on TOTV, perhaps you were not that committed to begin with. Come visit and decide for yourself.

Troll Alert! Whatca thinkin Gramps!
 

:loco:Well. If posts and threads here can make someone believe "Careful folks, you may be lowering your property values" lets all work on lowering the gas prices!

It can be a crazy place, but I love what it is! Gotta run, I am sure when the sun comes up there will be something great to do! :wave:

Sorry to hear it
 

Well Hutch, I am sorry you've decided not to come. You've read a lot of negative somewhere, but remember complainers always are more likely to post. The vast majority of folks here are just like yourself. We love it here, abide by the rules, enjoy each other's company, clean up after our wonderful pets, and drive safely for the pure enjoyment of it. The sky is blue, the landscaping is pristine, the people are just the kind of neighbors everyone in the country wants. It's the America of our youth. Hope you'll reconsider, give us a visit. I, for one, would welcome you!

Well said Redwitch

I agree with Parker.

Hope you change your mind Hutch. One day would not be enough to get a good feel about the Villages. Been here almost seven years myself and always love when I get back from other places that always have had a lot more problems than here in the Villages.

A lot of the traffic and overcrowding problems go away with the coming of the hotter weather after Easter. I have found that the neighbors in the Villages treat you how you treat them. That's not the case in many other areas.

OK, so you guys can flame me. I have resisted the "rude" discussion about TOTV. I have a couple of things to say. First, as to Hutch. Don't know him, don't recall seeing a post from him. BUT, he is obviously disappointed. He is expressing that concern. What does he get? Other than a couple of reasonable comments, he's told to take a hike and not look back. Funny attitude that I've read here before in the short time I've been a member.

If this is such a warm a friendly group why are you so quick to devour people who say anything you don't like? It really doesn't seem to represent the place as friendly on those occassions. I would point to the pool question yesterday and really pretty rude comments from a couple of people. The original poster had a legit concern and asked nicely what others thought.

The previous poster on this thread was right to point out that those who post on these sites do not necessarily represent the mood of TV or any other place they may be talking about. Some folks just live to stir up a lively conversation for the fun of it.

My personal observation is this. Moving from the middle of Kansas, in our case, to a sub tropical area with swamps, gators sink holes, and snakes is pretty daunting. Of course that's balanced by what sounds to me like a really nice place to retire. (and of course I'd never decide to avoid it without actually coming to visit which we plan this summer) But it is nevertheless scary, at least to me.

That's why myself and others ask about these daunting little things like having a snake in your garage. While some people here have given well thought out answers, like to my golf cart question the other day, many people seem to just want you to drink the kool-aid and enjoy it. (I liked the "bubble" analogy someone used the other day.)

What I mean by this is that many times when someone raises a negative that they are concerned about people don't address the negative, but instead just tell people it doesn't matter. Like, "snakes are more afraid of you than you are of them." I assure you, no snake is as afraid of humans as those of us that have an irrational fear of them. It isn't really helpful to just tell people to ignore things they are concerned about. What is helpful is a thoughtful discussion of those things and why they haven't been a negative to you, living in TV. Or perhaps that they were negative, but he is how you dealt with them.

Finally, I never see the purpose of being rude and mean to people on any discussion list. Hutch for me, and I'm in your shoes having not been there yet, I sure wouldn't let anything you read here positive or negative make up your mind. TV will let you stay during the summer months for $100 a night. I've seen 3 bedroom houses you can rent from individuals for $650 a month in the summer. Pretty darn cheap vacations and you can make up your own mind. I would also point out there are numerous other developments near TV, although, not nearly as big, of course; You could visit some of those also, Best of luck to you.

hutch
It is quite busy and crowded in the areas south of 466. I live just north of 466, and find the whole area has much less traffic and rudeness. I also have very easy trips to both sumter landing and spanish springs as well as shopping on 441 and southern trace plaza. you should keep the visit and check out all areas of the villages for yourself. the most important thing when buying a home is deciding what area you want to live in.

Oh, just Oh
 

When DW and I were doing our due diligence and visiting multiple retirement communities in both Florida and Arizona one factor we felt very important was whether the people we met, and saw on the streets, seemed happy. It was a question we directly asked when joining others floating in the swimming pool. Some seemed amused by the question until we made it clear we were asking about the community not their marriage or other personal concerns. We chose TV in large part because people here were overwhelmingly pleased with the choice they had made. Everyone had some complaint but the positives completely outweighed the negative.

A total stranger has now posted saying he is hearing us complain too much. I think it is a valid observation in isolation. TOTV is where we go with our complaints and concerns and our questions. Don't shoot the messenger. And he is right that if no one wants to be here, our home values do decline. We understand that TOTV is not an arm of the Morses' sales empire. There is no need to attack saying we wouldn't want him here if he makes an observation honestly expressed. So Hutch, come down, meet the natives, ask us questions about what we like and dislike, and ignore those who have only negatives as they haven't moved elsewhere have they. Some people just like to complain.

Hutch's post wasn't just expressing a concern. It was negatively worded. Some members answered in the same vein, understandably so. Others took a different approach, and patiently tried to explain the attractions of TV.

I wish Hutch well in his search for perfection.

OldDave, nobody has a more irrational fear of snakes more than I do, and I can tell you that in three years, I have never seen one here....not even a dead one. All I've seen was a piece of a molten skin on a golf course, and that was three years ago. There are some areas more prone to have them, such as near the marsh area just north of 466. But for the most part, the dense housing and construction and streets with lots of golf carts and cars scare them away. I'm always on the alert when I'm out walking, and I haven't even seen a snake dart away from there and into the bushes/grasses.

And by the way, maybe "irrational fear of snakes" is not so irrational. Satan himself is depicted as a "snake" and "serpent" in both the first and last books of the Bible. That imagery has meaning for us....to stay AWAY from them!

They do have a vital function in the ecology of things, (eating mice etc.) but we don't see them, much less interact with them. We do put the garage door down at ALL times.

I'm sorry, but I need to ask this. (not at Hutch) Do many people only read the original posts of threads? Hutch came back on at 12:37 this morning and posted message #16 that told us that we are right, as noted in the highlighted sentence above. Yet several posters continued to voice their opinions about the initial decision to cancel the LSV like post #16 doesn't exist. I've seen this kind of responding several time in the past, but I've thought little of it because I know I've accidentally done it myself. But this time it was so predominant here that I just had to say something. :ohdear:

Anyway, to Hutch... my opinion about your changing your mind is:clap2:!

I hope that you will find things to be other than what a few have said in other threads have led you to believe while remembering that they have every right to express what they don't like as well as what they do like. We just need to take note of what they express, but make sure to find out for ourselves if we agree or feel differently. Enjoy your lifestyle visit and I hope you find out that it's more positive that you're currently thinking!

Cheat yourself. I think that you will be curious enough to come here eventually and see how incorrect your current assessment is.

RICHIELION Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!


Life is about choices we make. I'm so glad we chose TV.
Thanks to TOTV, I have chosen the best people to work on and care for our home. Life is good!
Thank you friends on this terrific entertaining site.
Hutch, your choice.

Just my opinion, but:
If life is good and everything is hunkey-dorey, then you probably don't have too much time to be posting on this site. You're out having too much fun.
On the other hand, if something ticks you off, you probably want others to know about it. Hence the so called "negative" comments you see here.
I've only been here in The Villages nine months, and can say the absolute best thing about it is the people. Where I came from I didn't even know my neighbor's name who lived 2 doors away, even after living there 2 years. Here I can't go out to walk my dog or go to the post office without people stopping to talk. Even people I've never met.
Why??? Because here people feel safe and secure. They know they aren't going to get mugged and that the chances of meeting a grouch are pretty slim. Back home people occasionally waved when driving by, but here they do it all the time AND they use all five fingers.
I'm glad I'm Here. Don't worry about the nay-sayers.

this link should help you find that info...and loads more!
http://www.lylesellsfla.com.z57revie...me_sales.shtml

Hutch, glad you are coming to see for yourself. I hope you like it here as much as most of us do. Enjoy!

I agree!