Teens on golfcarts
 

Not sure what happened last night...it was so fast! We were coming home from an event around 10pm over by Buena Vista and Bailey Trail making a turn into a tunnel when we nearly got hit head-on by a cart with young people (possibly teens---it was dark). There were two carts actually---the front one was being reckless, no doubt about it and had their lights on. The 2nd one was equally reckless, if not more so as their lights were off! They were laughing and yelling after it happened. It happened so quickly.....but the thought of what might have happened was frightening!! IF these were grandkids visiting...BIG SIGH!!! Also...think they had gas-carts as they were loud and seemed to be going quite fast!!!

Trust me, it's not just the gas carts that go fast. I was in my car this morning on a street where the speed limit was 25 (I was going 25) and a guy on an electric cart (not street legal, either) passed me like I was sitting still.

I don't understand why the grandparents/parents turn the kids loose in carts, old enough or not. Obviously, these kids did not have enough maturity to be driving anything.

The. Courses don't allow anyone to drive a golf cart under 18 if I remember right?

In Florida, the legal age to drive a golf cart is 14, even on the streets....

Complaints
 

Teens driving fast! Your kidding! I've been on this blog for 5 years, and for the last several years, a lot of folks seem to have complaints about almost everything. Lighten up folks.:)

I've also almost been hit head on coming out of a tunnel and it is very upsetting. It is definitely something you remember the next time you are in a tunnel. I don't blame them for being upset.

I have also been very close to being hit head on by a couple teenagers on the rec. path on El Camino Real. I have no objection to them driving,... except when they're on my side of the path coming from the other direction! :shocked:

Please continue to remind your visiting children and grandchildren to be safe out there. The Villages is fun but lets not have the party on the golf carts while they're in motion,....please.:)

It is spring break and Easter. This usually goes on for about two weeks.

Eventually you will probably read a report in the Daily Sun about someone(s) in cart carts destroying some greens on a golf course or two.

If you live near or on a golf course and you see lights on the courses at night when they do not belong there, please call the cops on them.

not teens this time
 

And I was almost hit head on by a lady my age on a section of a cart path on Beuna Vista recently. She was on the wrong side of the divided path yacking on a cell phone with me blowing my horn...I pulled off to the grass...buzzed right by me without a clue. It's not just the youngsters!

Head On
 

Not only the TEENS!. Yesterday coming back from Publix going thru the tunnel by Havana I was going towards Havana, 2 carts going towards the golf course cut the corner short and entered the tunnel in MY lane. Thank goodness I was not a little closer. Wednesday coming back from TVRH going thru the tunnel by 466& Morse 2 bicycles came thru the tunnel cut the corner sharp and came out of the tunnel in the uncoming lane. Both times they were grown men. What is the hurry people. We've had way to many accidents. Slow Down!!

MY point...it was dark, it was night and these kids were definately horsing around coming out of a tunnel and we HAD NO idea (emphasis added, not shouting) that they were headed our way. The approach to the tunnel is a blind corner and they came around the corner out of the tunnel and nearly hit us head-on. It was frightening! They were whooping and hollering and it wasn't funny to us! I didn't have my phone otherwise would have called 911.
I realize that grown-ups, plenty times, screw up here---I get that! Folks, if your grandkids are down here by all means have fun and enjoy your time. BUT if you allow them to use your carts and they have an accident are you willing to also suffer the reprocussions?? A head-on golf-cart accident in the dark, going the speed that they were could have been fatal!!

CHILDREN driving golf carts!
 

Yes, it's scary to think of teens feeling their oats while driving golf carts, but since being down in TV, we have seen children as young as 10 driving golf carts. PLEASE.....grandparents....do NOT let your visitors under the age of 14 drive a golf cart. It is extremely dangerous, not to mention, illegal. Thanks.

Where is Enforcement
 

Where is the enforcement of the law regarding age and speed limits for
carts? Why is the sheriff's dept. absent or ignoring the problems. This is
like the tip of the iceberg for The Villages. Last evening we drove through
(in our cart) Sumter Landing. There were more that 15 kids hanging out
in front of the theater and most appeared to be under the age of 15. Then
driving back Cody's had the music so loud that it was a scurge to anyone
in the area and no enforcement by the Sheriff's Dept. It is time they became
involved in some of the loss of a good community enviorement.:o

Penn. It isn't illegal, immoral, bad judgment, troublesome or even FATTENING to have young people hanging around a theatre. It is right around Eastertime, the time of the year when grandchildren come to TV. Kids are around. Smile at them.

Unless they are doing something they shouldn't be doing and then...do what you have to do. Extra squirt guns available at my house and PTurners.

I do agree that the squirt guns should be used on grandparents who allow youngsters to drive unsupervised or allow them to drive if they are to young to drive cars. EVEN THEN..... It takes quite a while to acclimate anyone to driving in TV. Please take care of your grandchildren so they grow up, get a job and be productive so you can go to them for money. :wave:;)

to recap the complaints as ive read them
1. hate too slow drivers
2. hate too fast drivers
3. hate old senile drivers
4. hate too young teen drivers
5. hate drinking drivers
6. hate knee hanging out drivers
7. hate smelly gas cart drivers
did i miss anything?

Dog Poop


Sorry, couldnt resist...:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Sorry, I for one enjoy seeing the kids "hanging out" at the Square. They can't get in much trouble out in the open under all our "watchful eyes". Brings me back to when I "hung out" at Pop's candy store on Fifth Avenue.

As to the noise; Sumter Landing is a mini-downown, a destination as they say, where young and old, singles and families can gather, shop, eat out, be entertained, walk around and people watch and just have a good time.
Sometimes good times can be very noisey.

As to kids in golf carts GG said it best:

"I do agree that the squirt guns should be used on grandparents who allow youngsters to drive unsupervised or allow them to drive if they are to young to drive cars. EVEN THEN..... It takes quite a while to acclimate anyone to driving in TV. Please take care of your grandchildren so they grow up, get a job and be productive so you can go to them for money."

[QUOTE=Whalen;473778]Sorry, I for one enjoy seeing the kids "hanging out" at the Square. They can't get in much trouble out in the open under all our "watchful eyes". Brings me back to when I "hung out" at Pop's candy store on Fifth Avenue.

As to the noise; Sumter Landing is a mini-downown, a destination as they say, where young and old, singles and families can gather, shop, eat out, be entertained, walk around and people watch and just have a good time.
Sometimes good times can be very noisey.

As to kids in golf carts GG said it best:

"I do agree that the squirt guns should be used on grandparents who allow youngsters to drive unsupervised or allow them to drive if they are to young to drive cars. EVEN THEN..... It takes quite a while to acclimate anyone to driving in TV. Please take care of your grandchildren so they grow up, get a job and be productive so you can go to them for money."[/QUOTE



I AGREE AND NOT because you know about Chow_mein on a bun!!

No signals.

Never turning your signal off.

Spitting out of golf cart and or automobiles......

Glad I was never a young teenager.

Quality of Life
 

I understand there are different opinions on "quality of life". Some have
different standards than others which is what makes up a world.
When I grew up blaring loud music was not accepted on main street
and the appeal was usually outside or inside the bars where there was
a lot of drinking. If it spilled too much outside the local police would
ask the bar to lower it. In the case of Cody's it was VERY VERY loud
and made Main Street Lake Sumter appear to be one big bar. As opposed
to the historic peaceful place to go. Regarding the kids hanging out. It
is interesting that the Developer/Community have installed Country Clubs
Rec Centers, Pools, a number of outside game ALL FOR ADULTS.
Nothing has been done to provide an outlet for the kids. Yet, by law
at lease 20% of the residents can be below the age of 55. If I assume
the build out at 110,000 residents then 22,000 or thereabouts will be young adults. That will be 11,000 families with children or back to 22,000 kids.
What is planned for them on the weekends, where do they go, etc?
Oop's..Hopefully the message is getting across. We could go to the local
YMCA dances on weekends. There were bands, a bouncer to maintain
control and it was great fun. The observationi was there were over 15
kids under the age of 15 "Just hanging Out" in front of the Theater and
no where to go..That is pretty darn sad but may show the weakness
in The Villages. :confused:

No one under the age of 19 can reside in TV. These "kids" you speak of are coming from our neighboring communities and visiting grandchildren. They are welcome, but we, or the developer, do not need to provide activities for those "kids".

top of my list. drivers that tail gate

The Villages markets itself as a "retirement community
 

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QUOTE=PennBF;473791]I understand there are different opinions on "quality of life". Some have
different standards than others which is what makes up a world.
When I grew up blaring loud music was not accepted on main street
and the appeal was usually outside or inside the bars where there was
a lot of drinking. If it spilled too much outside the local police would
ask the bar to lower it. In the case of Cody's it was VERY VERY loud
and made Main Street Lake Sumter appear to be one big bar. As opposed
to the historic peaceful place to go. Regarding the kids hanging out. It
is interesting that the Developer/Community have installed Country Clubs
Rec Centers, Pools, a number of outside game ALL FOR ADULTS.
Nothing has been done to provide an outlet for the kids. Yet, by law
at lease 20% of the residents can be below the age of 55. If I assume
the build out at 110,000 residents then 22,000 or thereabouts will be young adults. That will be 11,000 families with children or back to 22,000 kids.
What is planned for them on the weekends, where do they go, etc?
Oop's..Hopefully the message is getting across. We could go to the local
YMCA dances on weekends. There were bands, a bouncer to maintain
control and it was great fun. The observationi was there were over 15
kids under the age of 15 "Just hanging Out" in front of the Theater and
no where to go..That is pretty darn sad but may show the weakness
in The Villages. :confused:[/QUOTE]

In all due respect The Villages markets itself as a "retirement community" If you want Club 54 go back to the city. if you want a family environment go back to the suburbs.

Yes
 

Hate Electric Carts!

Another hi-jacked thread! I was commenting on a VERY un-safe and scarey incident. This isn't about kids hanging out and making noise or even under-aged drivers. I'm not so sure these "kids" were under-aged but they were not using good sense and again what they did coming through the tunnel was down-right unsafe and could have been possibly lethal! Under no circumstances was this a humerous event!!

Why?; can't hear 'em comin'?

Teans Driving Golf Carts!
 

Gee-

Sounds like a great title for a new Horror movie!

Teans Driving Golf Carts! Coming to a local tunnel near you!

Put it in your Villages Survey.......14 years old is too young to be navigating a golf cart on the busy paths and tunnels in TV. Raise the age to 18 and impose severe penalties for allowing underage golf cart drivers. It is a severe accident waiting to happen!

Ages 18-65,no under, no older driving golf carts. Want to be safe here.

14 years is a state law.

Don't Think So
 

So you'e saying the 55's + that are already here or move here can only operate their golf carts 10 +/- years to age 65? This is a retirement community built on golf cart access. Sixty-five + may be old to you, but if you're lucky, you'll be there someday. What about the over 65's who still play golf, softball, etc.? Sixty-five does not mean that you sit home and wait to die. With only 20% of the homeowners allowed to be under 55, what happens with the other 80%?

As Bogie says, 14 is the state law.

And please put a little wink or something if you are tryin' to be funny. Jokes about older people are allowed.

If you were tryin' to be mean, remember I am 70 and I can summon the posse!:wave::p :doh: :Screen_of_Death:

Respect
 

I respect a person's right to sit at a bar, listen to loud music and lose some
basic social behavior controls. I only ask they also respect my right to a
sober, quiet enjoyment of life and the music at the squares. I don't think
that is too much to ask. :wave:

Let me think back a few weeks........
still thinking,, hold on here it comes to me now,,,,,,,,

Last 2 cart accidents that were major issues involved much older people driving the cars. One even backed over a gent on bicycle. The other on the trial along 466 ran over 2 cyclist trying to pass in a place you can not pass. His comment to SCSO was I just wanted to get by them. So he runs them over.

Do not remember any teens there, Oh wait, one of the cyclist on 466 was a 17 year old that had to go to the hospital via ambulance. And people complain about the younger drivers...... :shrug:

besides depending where you are at on the cart paths or Multi Modal Paths, it is Private Property, the SCSO can not ticket it.. That is straight from a SCSO Deputy.