Thinking out loud about Brownwood and all the nearby commercial property on SR44.
 

With TV approaching a population of over 100,000 it seems reasonable to expect to see some duplication like another Home Depot? Lowe's? Sam's Club or may a Costco?

The population distribution that far south as well as all the suronding communities E-W and South makes for prime opportunities.

What do you think?

btk

Thinking......
 

Me thinks, "If you build it, they will come!"

It is going to be difficult to get much more commercial building on 466A as the adjoining land on both sides has been developed to support golf courses.
It may well be that wildwood will be a focal point in the future

I think these will be corporate decisions made by Lowe's, Home Depot, Sam's Clubs and Costco.

BTK,
I think you are right that this growing market could support such businesses. I also think Wildwood will benefit greatly from the third phase of TV just as Sumter County benefited greatly from the second phase. It would not surprise me to see more upscale housing and commercial development in Wildwood as a result of the Brownwood section of TV.

I think any of the big box stores can handle 100K pop, it's not just the number is the case of HD or Lowes.

I think it's the age of the pop here 55+ the age of the homes, a new home built needs them lees than an older home.

They are great at crunching the numbers but my guess is the will not duplicate.

I totally agree! I think that area is going to expand with both commercial and residential development. I am almost sure that you won't recognize the 466A area around Brownwood in years to come.

Did you mean 44A. 466A is about a mile and a half away from Brownwood.

I truly believe that entire area is prime land for commercial and residential development. Watch and see it grow. :)

I doubt that 466A will look that much different since there is only limited area to develop and most of that is either in Lake Co. or between Powell Rd and 301. However, I do have to say that you probably wouldn't walk a mile and a half like I mentioned, but you would probably swim it! :1rotfl:

I will bet you an ice cream cone that you will not recognize that entire area in years to come. I have a coupon for Peachwave....for YOU to use.

BTW, I like chocolate. :wave:

I wish Costco would build nearby. I've never been to one, but I've read enough positive things, and have seen it recommended by Clark Howard, that I'd love to have access to Costco ... even if it's (currently) only during my vacations.

I expect quite a bit of commercial development along 44 and 466a that all villagers- and especially current and future Southside Villagers- will enjoy. There is a Sweetbay future site sign on 44. TOTV recently discussed the planned 157 acre mixed use project adjacent to Tamarind Grove. Similar projects cannot be far behind. There has been some discussion on TOTV about a new turnpike exit at CR 468, with a possibility of an outlet-type mall.

The demand of Southside Villagers and of residents in surrounding areas of west Leesburg, Wildwood, and other Sumter County residents will present business opportunities too great to ignore.

I'd buy you some chocolate there with or without a bet, but I'm not a Peachwave fan and have never been there. My wife did buy me some a while ago, but I didn't care for it! Spoiled by what I used to get back north! As for not recognizing the "entire area?" I hope not! I live near 466A and would be devistated if I couldn't find/recognize my house!
:cryin2:

[QUOTE=swimdawg;474998]I will bet you an ice cream cone that you will not recognize that entire area in years to come. I have a coupon for Peachwave....for YOU to use.

BTW, I like chocolate. :wave:[/QUOTE

uNfortunately, Peachwave does not offer cones!:cryin2:

Better get that new map Skyguy!

Significant development on the way for wildwood
 

Here is a development that will be just south of the turnpike in Wildwood in the near future:
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we had a similar situation here in the sun cities, az.

when the first sun city was built, there was a dirt road called Bell Road. we had to go many many miles for an ice cream cone. then del webb built sun city west and they built stores and we only had to go a few miles for an ice cream cone. by the time sun city grand was built, that original area was not recognized by many. Bell rd. is now a major road here west of phoenix. the surrounding areas which originally had shack houses and was a very poor area now is a beautiful residential community.

areas where it didn't look like there was room to build, believe me, they did! and all those businesses are doing very well. we now have our choice of many places, skyguy, to get an ice cream cone!

you may not recognize that area around your new square - but it won't happen overnight.

Indy, what's ACLF? Activities Center for Lifelong Felons? :p

Did someone say Peachwave?

And if you'd like to find more detailed info about the area Indy mentioned, Google - - - "southern oaks dri" wildwood florida

Per http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/Files/...1452013936.pdf - - - - Page 28 of the 50 page pdf says the parcels are north of the turnpike.

Bill :)

Or you could just stop by City Hall. They have lots of plans, documents and maps that would put all of this rumor mill business to rest :)

There are several DRIs that have approvals in Wildwood:

Southern Oaks
Wildwood Springs
Landstone
Villages of Wildwood DRI

There are also several PDs that have approvals. Many of which are near the intersection of 466A/Powell Road/462.

SunCity, the new square you refer to is 6 miles from where I live and I'm just off 466A. I've been on 466A several time since we moved here in January 2011 and have been around Brownwood on all 4 sides too. So I have a fair idea of how much development area is left on 466a from the east end to the west end. There's very little left to be developed within that stretch of road.

Beyond those ends, the road is outside of The Villages with about a mile to the west and about 3 miles to the east. To those ends there may well be considerable development, but as I originally suggested, Brownwood is not in the immediate area of 466A.

Now around the immediate area of Brownwood and along 44 there is little doubt that there will be considerable development. Besides Brownwood, there is already a shopping center started on it's west. I also don't think I won't recognize the area in the future as I'll be witnessing it's growth a little at a time. So there won't be any big surprises for me.

As for any Peachwave references, don't take my comments serious. That was just my having a little fun with Swimdawg's suggestion that we have a bet.

I'd also like to mention that we've been to your neck of the woods a couple times. We attended a convention in Phoenix last summer and a few years before that we stayed a week in Mesa. Unfortunately, a few hours after we arrived in Mesa the monsoons swept in. They said that evening there was more rainfall than there was in the last 12 months. I'll spare you of what we went through to get from a restaurant where we were when it started, back to where we were staying.

Anyway, we did find the area to be a beautiful and we were even considering it as one of the two areas we might relocate to before chosing The Villages, and we did look around at several developments while we were there. However, TV won in the end! :wave:

3500 homes were approved for Rt 466A & Rt 462. Witin 2 years time!

I was standing on my head when I read it.:confused:

Skyguy....I'll take a double dip....chocolate...waffle cone will do. :laugh:

Watch the area grow, trust me!

Let me make something perfectly clear. I'm not saying that Wildwood will not develop in the next few years west of Powell Rd, or more specifically 462 in this particular case. I am saying that I'm not used to this area, even though I've been by it a number of times, and with that in mind I will recognize it since I'll be seeing the development bits and peices at a time without the surprise of sudden mass changes. So you can't really say that "I'd be surprised when...!"

Anyway, being the nice guy that I am, two years from today, whether or not I'm surprised, feel free to go to Peachwave, order your double dip chocolate on a waffle cone, and tell them to put it on skyguys bill! :1rotfl:

Whatta guy....now that I know that Peachwave doesn't serve cones. :(

Yes, you are correct. You will not have the element of "surprise". You will see it change yourself.........as I'm sure you see the area south of 466A change virtually on a daily basis.

Who serves chocolate ice cream cones around that area? Sugar or waffle cone preferred. :icon_hungry:

Surprise, Arizona
 

ironically enough, the name of the city that i was referring to last night that went from a very poor area to a very upscale area is called SURPRISE! and what a SURPRISE it was to all of us here around the sun cities when it went from one extreme to the other!

As I stated before, I've never been to Peachwave, so I didn't know they don't have cones. As for who does serve chocolate cones in this area?...I don't know that either. The last time I had an ice cream cone was about two years before we first came to TV. Anyway, when you find one, you can tell them to put it on skyguys bill too! :D

They told me 11,000 homes

My thoughts, exactly.

Question
 

[QUOTE=skyguy79;475068]SunCity, the new square you refer to is 6 miles from where I live and I'm just off 466A. I've been on 466A several time since we moved here in January 2011 and have been around Brownwood on all 4 sides too. So I have a fair idea of how much development area is left on 466a from the east end to the west end. There's very little left to be developed within that stretch of road.

Beyond those ends, the road is outside of The Villages with about a mile to the west and about 3 miles to the east. To those ends there may well be considerable development, but as I originally suggested, Brownwood is not in the immediate area of 466A.

Now around the immediate area of Brownwood and along 44 there is little doubt that there will be considerable development. Besides Brownwood, there is already a shopping center started on it's west. I also don't think I won't recognize the area in the future as I'll be witnessing it's growth a little at a time. So there won't be any big surprises for me.


Maybe a dumb question all? When do we run out of water? Water restrictions on our lawns and all this building? Just asking. Have they done studies?

H

I don't know about the water CarGuys as all I can think about right now at lunchtime is the chocolate waffle cones that swimdawg mentioned! I'm a firm believer in "life's short, eat your dessert first". :laugh:

Cap., you can put your next cone on swimdawg's... er I mean my tab too! :D

OK
 

I'll run outta water when I turn off the faucet or don't pay the bill. I got it!

I know Skyguy and CaptJohn you were being nice to me! I want a cone!

[quote=CarGuys;475221]FYI at our recent St. James cul-de-sac party, I was told by neighbors that the cow pasture land off of 466-A was purchased and medical offices are to be built in that area.

I am referring to the entire area around Brownwood including areas off of 466-A.

But more important than all the building that will happen in the future, I'm with Capt. John, bring on the chocolate ice cream cone. Oh yes!!!!

We were being nice? I guess we'll need to change our ways and I'll start by saying... no ice cream for you! :throwtomatoes:

[quote=swimdawg;475244]OK, OK, we'll use your area definition, but it's gonna cost you.
Hey Herv and John! Swimdawg is now buying the ice cream! http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3.../EmoteLOL2.gif

I would not doubt The Villages have planned for 50 years in advance for water etc. they already know what the place will look like when its done

That was the intent of the three tier water rate system