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jblum315 04-05-2012 07:54 AM

Far from Brownwood
 
I had thought when I bought a house in Hemingway that I would be closer to the new town square than to the older ones. But I see that Brownwood is about 6 miles from my house, not close at all. Somewhat disappointing.

JohnN 04-05-2012 09:15 AM

well, Hemingway is about dab smack in the middle of TV, don't know that you can ask for a more central location. you can always move to a new area closer to Brownwood if it's a real issue.

CarGuys 04-05-2012 09:50 AM

Tamarind Grove
 
There a few lots left and I hear some that will be going back into resale soon as people cannpt move their homes. ( Been ther done that! )

Tamarind Grove is a nice location. Quick run up to LSL or down to the new Town Square.

swimdawg 04-05-2012 09:51 AM

Location of Brownwood
 
I have to admit that I was a bit confused as to the location of Brownwood.

As you know, I do go right to the horse's mouth (Well....close but no cigar...I'll never tell!) ;)

The developer wants their major shopping/dining/entertainment spots closer to a major roadway. In this case, 44.....for a number of reasons.

The careful reasoning and of course, well-thought out plans for the location of Brownwood is because of the buinesses that the developer wants to attract. The developer is concerned about access and exposure. The developer wants good quality business partners which will allow for the widest variety of services.

The developer is concerned about desirable traffic patterns. You who have been in TV can see that the developer has planned the community to keep the more highly traveled roads separate from the residential areas as much as possible.

Brownwood is the perfect location for Big Event Entertainment "Destinations". The developer planned for parking, crowd control, increased activity for their businesses, etc. Most people living in TV want to be able to choose to go downtown.....they don't want to LIVE downtown and around all these issues every day.

So....hopefully, for those interested, this explains the reasons why Brownwood was built in that location. Obviously, there was a LOT of careful planning.

I for one am very happy about the location. I'm in St. James and it's the best of both worlds there. LSL and Brownwood...we are smack in the middle.:)

That's the swimdawg update.

jblum315 04-05-2012 11:01 AM

Swimdawg, you are absolutely right, as usual. Thanks for your clear thinking

Number 6 04-05-2012 11:16 AM

Swimdawg,
Thanks for the explaniation. BTW, I know very well where Wheatfield is. I grew up in the 14001 (Akron)!

Bogie Shooter 04-05-2012 11:50 AM

For all you wannabes. You should check out the location of any lots/homes you are thinking of buying. It is way to late after the fact to be so disapointed that you are so far from a town square. Duh!

zcaveman 04-05-2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 475517)
I had thought when I bought a house in Hemingway that I would be closer to the new town square than to the older ones. But I see that Brownwood is about 6 miles from my house, not close at all. Somewhat disappointing.

Not that I live over way out there but I thought Brownwood would have been closer to 466A. I guess building south of 44 is not unreasonable so that Brownwood would be a midpoint to someplace.

jblum315 04-05-2012 01:16 PM

Well, as Swimdawg pointed out, Hemingway will eventually be the exact center of TV

gvsulakerfan 04-05-2012 01:20 PM

the villages had to annex a certain number of acres for commercial use into the city limits of wildwood... that is part of the reason brownwood is where it is.

LittleDog 04-05-2012 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 475655)
Well, as Swimdawg pointed out, Hemingway will eventually be the exact center of TV

When we bought our house in Poinciana we were told that the center of the Villages is the historic house on Buena Vista at the circle with Bonita. When I drive to Mulberry from my house it's about 8.5 miles. I believe Brownwood will be about 6 miles.

John

skyguy79 04-05-2012 05:15 PM

I did a little checking, using Google Earth measurements, to try and find more accurately where the center of The Villages is. The points given so far didn't sound right to me. What I found is that it's impossible to guess the exact center of The Villages unless it's done mathematically by engineers, and that's because the longitude & latitude distances from north to south and east to west are all variable depending on at what point they're taken.

The best I could figure out is that north to south, the center would range from Lake Sumter Landing to a point in Virginia Trace at about Canal St and Haynesville Lane. That's almost 5K from the north and another 5K from the south. The variable is because the Villages bottom longitude is angled from east to west. (Forget the east to west center point because of the extensive longitude variations) You can see the variations heading from Brownwood eastward to the eastern end of Rt. 44 in the Sumter master plan of the Villages. http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/Docume....aspx?DID=3350 (PDF Document)

If you find my figures are off, my name is Jose Schwartz and I live in Alaska! :ho:

daca55 04-05-2012 05:15 PM

I am new to the Villages and still trying find my way around. Does anyone know how far the village of Buttonwood is from Brownwood. I think I need to buy a map. :a040:

rubicon 04-05-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 475743)
I did a little checking, using Google Earth measurements, to try and find more accurately where the center of The Villages is. The points given so far didn't sound right to me. What I found is that it's impossible to guess the exact center of The Villages unless it's done mathematically by engineers, and that's because the longitude & latitude distances from north to south and east to west are all variable depending on at what point they're taken.

The best I could figure out is that north to south, the center would range from Lake Sumter Landing to a point in Virginia Trace at about Canal St and Haynesville Lane. That's almost 5K from the north and another 5K from the south. The variable is because the Villages bottom longitude is angled from east to west. (Forget the east to west center point because of the extensive longitude variations) You can see the variations heading from Brownwood eastward to the eastern end of Rt. 44 in the Sumter master plan of the Villages. http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/Docume....aspx?DID=3350 (PDF Document)

If you find my figures are off, my name is Jose Schwartz and I live in Alaska! :ho:

SkyGuy: It is my understanding that anyone who built above Mallory was required to go to the Brownwood Square:1rotfl:

golf2140 04-05-2012 06:01 PM

It's just a golf cart ride away. We are retired, slow down.

skyguy79 04-05-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 475752)
SkyGuy: It is my understanding that anyone who built above Mallory was required to go to the Brownwood Square:1rotfl:

Was required? Why would all those above Mallory be told to go to an empty lot to have a good time? Aah... never mind. I can picture what you're thinking, you naughty boy! :1rotfl:

renielarson 04-05-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 475743)
I did a little checking, using Google Earth measurements, to try and find more accurately where the center of The Villages is. The points given so far didn't sound right to me. What I found is that it's impossible to guess the exact center of The Villages unless it's done mathematically by engineers, and that's because the longitude & latitude distances from north to south and east to west are all variable depending on at what point they're taken.

The best I could figure out is that north to south, the center would range from Lake Sumter Landing to a point in Virginia Trace at about Canal St and Haynesville Lane. That's almost 5K from the north and another 5K from the south. The variable is because the Villages bottom longitude is angled from east to west. (Forget the east to west center point because of the extensive longitude variations) You can see the variations heading from Brownwood eastward to the eastern end of Rt. 44 in the Sumter master plan of the Villages. http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/Docume....aspx?DID=3350 (PDF Document)

If you find my figures are off, my name is Jose Schwartz and I live in Alaska! :ho:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jblum315
Well, as Swimdawg pointed out, Hemingway will eventually be the exact center of TV

When we bought our house in Poinciana we were told that the center of the Villages is the historic house on Buena Vista at the circle with Bonita. When I drive to Mulberry from my house it's about 8.5 miles. I believe Brownwood will be about 6 miles.

John

When looking at the map, I think jrheydt is more accurate. The Liberty Park Preserve appears to be dead center which would be closest to the historic house. When we purchased our first home in Liberty Park, we also were told we would be "almost' dead center in The Villages once built out.

skyguy79 04-05-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipflopz (Post 475779)
When looking at the map, I think jrheydt is more accurate. The Liberty Park Preserve appears to be dead center which would be closest to the historic house. When we purchased our first home in Liberty Park, we also were told we would be "almost' dead center in The Villages once built out.

You think? Well, I went back to the Google Earth map and measured from the historic house to the northern end of Buena Vista then measured from the historic house down to the entrance of Brownwood and this time I measured in miles instead of kilometers. From the historic house the distance to Rt. 44 was 7.2 miles and the distance to Brownwood was 3.38 miles. 7.2 miles = 3.38 miles?

Now to back that up I also did a Google Map layout. The results were 8.7 driving miles from the historic house to the northern end of Buena Vista and 3.8 miles to Brownwood. Again... 8.7 miles does not equal 3.8 miles. Even on this map it doesn't even look close.

Rt. 42 to Historic House to Brownwood via Buena Vista Blvd - Google Maps

So, why the BOLD RED print?

jblum315 04-05-2012 08:13 PM

[QUOTE=skyguy79;475798]You think? Well, I went back to the Google Earth map and measured from the historic house to the northern end of Buena Vista then measured from the historic house down to the entrance of Brownwood and this time I measured in miles instead of kilometers. From the historic house the distance to Rt. 44 was 7.2 miles and the distance to Brownwood was 3.38 miles. 7.2 miles = 3.38 miles?

Now to back that up I also did a Google Map layout. The results were 8.7 driving miles from the historic house to the northern end of Buena Vista and 3.8 miles to Brownwood. Again... 8.7 miles does not equal 3.8 miles. Even on this map it doesn't even look close.

It cannot be 3.8 miles from the historic house to Brownwood. It is 6 miles from my house in Hemingway.

renielarson 04-05-2012 08:28 PM

Skyguy...I am speechless and almost in tears. I didn't mean to offend you and I sincerely apology.

I said, "looking at the map" it appears....then I went on to say what I was told when we built in Liberty Park.

I only used red bold type because I had copied two quotes and wasn't sure anyone would know what I was writing unless I made my font a different color. I guess red was a bad choice.

Again, I am so sorry.

Pturner 04-05-2012 08:50 PM

I give up. Could someone please 'splain to me the significance of "the exact center" of TV. Why are so many looking for it and why do so many think they've found it?

Is there a hidden treasure buried there? The fountain of youth? An immunity idol?

skyguy79 04-05-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 475815)
It cannot be 3.8 miles from the historic house to Brownwood. It is 6 miles from my house in Hemingway.

Don't argue with me! It's not my figures, it's Google's! Argue with them if it's that important to you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 475831)
I give up. Could someone please 'splain to me the significance of "the exact center" of TV. Why are so many looking for it and why do so many think they've found it?

Is there a hidden treasure buried there? The fountain of youth? An immunity idol?

P, there is no real significance in "the exact center" of TV. I only got involved myself in this because I saw multiple opinions about the center that I thought was obviously wrong. I then checked to see if I was correct, and in finding I was, simply presented my opinion along with some figures that proved it to me while checking. I thought that would be the end of it unless my figures were incorrect. I even joked about that possibility at the end of my post!

However, it continued when I got challenged with an indication I was wrong. So I simply checking myself out, then posted more information and proof that made the confirmation for the second and third times. Even then I was still doubted!

Anyway, I guess this whole thing was my fault for simply wanting to do something that few people ever do, and that's provide an opinion and check out first that it's accurate before presenting it. I guess in the future I'd be better off by just presenting opinions and not care or bother to check facts first where it's possible!

rhood 04-06-2012 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 475876)

I guess in the future I'd be better off by just presenting opinions and not care or bother to check facts first where it's possible!

Right on ! ! ! That's what most do ! ! !

graciegirl 04-06-2012 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 475831)
I give up. Could someone please 'splain to me the significance of "the exact center" of TV. Why are so many looking for it and why do so many think they've found it?

Is there a hidden treasure buried there? The fountain of youth? An immunity idol?

I think that it means we have time on our hands. I think we all agree that The Villages is the center of the universe, previously that was in Cincinnati, Ohio.

Now that I think of it, the center of the Universe is now in Athens, Ohio where both of our grandchildren go to school.

But back to your question P, I have heard so many posts over the years about the center of TV and most came from people who just moved into their new village and believed that they were centrally located.

I think that if we wanted to know, we could take out our Villages map and fold it twice and look for where the two folds intersect.

Gracie.

P.S. Where in the world is Carmen Santiago? Is she in the Village of Santiago?

skyguy79 04-06-2012 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 475914)
I think that if we wanted to know, we could take out our Villages map and fold it twice and look for where the two folds intersect.

Gracie.

Now there's an idea! Where the map is printed on both sides, people have a choice of centers! Choices are good! :a040:

swimdawg 04-06-2012 07:57 AM

Is this a contest or something that I missed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 475831)
I give up. Could someone please 'splain to me the significance of "the exact center" of TV. Why are so many looking for it and why do so many think they've found it?

Is there a hidden treasure buried there? The fountain of youth? An immunity idol?

If I figure it out, would I win a chocolate ice cream cone...waffle cone preferred, of course.

gvsulakerfan 04-06-2012 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 475831)
I give up. Could someone please 'splain to me the significance of "the exact center" of TV. Why are so many looking for it and why do so many think they've found it?

Is there a hidden treasure buried there? The fountain of youth? An immunity idol?

Well obviously, The Villages is the Center of the Universe, so then, finding the exact center of The Villages makes sense on a world scale.

swimdawg 04-06-2012 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 6 (Post 475614)
Swimdawg,
Thanks for the explaniation. BTW, I know very well where Wheatfield is. I grew up in the 14001 (Akron)!

Glad to give the explanation!

Akron....very nice area. Beautiful here this time of year....but a little chilly.

George Bieniaszek 04-06-2012 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 475831)
I give up. Could someone please 'splain to me the significance of "the exact center" of TV. Why are so many looking for it and why do so many think they've found it?

Is there a hidden treasure buried there? The fountain of youth? An immunity idol?

My guess is that there is an "Immunity Idol" buried in the exact geographical center of The Villages!! Once found and turned into Sumter County for verification, your bond balance will be nollied and you will not have to pay taxes on your home ever again. :a040::a040::a040:

Applepie 04-06-2012 09:41 AM

Rubicon: You can go to any town square you please no matter where you live. I live in Tall Trees and I visit equally Spanish Springs and Lake Sumter Landing. I will even go to Brownwood to check it out.

karostay 04-06-2012 09:58 AM

Being retired I consider my home the center of everything

Bill-n-Brillo 04-06-2012 02:03 PM

People usually consider me to be a bit 'off-center'......... :D

Bill :)

skyguy79 04-06-2012 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 476093)
People usually consider me to be a bit 'off-center'......... :D

Bill :)

Me too! Don't ya just find that a bummer when you're the rotating drum in a washing machine's spin cycle? http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/3b5...465cfdc5d8.gif

swimdawg 04-06-2012 06:54 PM

SPOTD Award
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karostay (Post 476007)
Being retired I consider my home the center of everything

The pressure was on....and there were so many clever posts....but I like the simplicity of this post.....and I believe this came from the heart.

You, karostay, win the coveted? Swimdawg Post of the Day Award!

Barefoot 04-06-2012 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 475623)
For all you wannabes. You should check out the location of any lots/homes you are thinking of buying. It is way to late after the fact to be so disapointed that you are so far from a town square. Duh!

Just a tiny comment on Bogie's post. You may find out that it really isn't that important to be close to a Town Center.

I thought when we bought our first home that being close to a Town Center was crucial, that we'd hang there every single night. Five years later, unless we have company, we rarely go to a Town Center. I think being close to shopping and restaurants is waaaaaaay more important. And just about everyone is close to shopping and restaurants, thanks to the preplanning of our brilliant Developer.

angiefox10 04-06-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 475743)
I did a little checking, using Google Earth measurements, to try and find more accurately where the center of The Villages is. The points given so far didn't sound right to me. What I found is that it's impossible to guess the exact center of The Villages unless it's done mathematically by engineers, and that's because the longitude & latitude distances from north to south and east to west are all variable depending on at what point they're taken.

The best I could figure out is that north to south, the center would range from Lake Sumter Landing to a point in Virginia Trace at about Canal St and Haynesville Lane. That's almost 5K from the north and another 5K from the south. The variable is because the Villages bottom longitude is angled from east to west. (Forget the east to west center point because of the extensive longitude variations) You can see the variations heading from Brownwood eastward to the eastern end of Rt. 44 in the Sumter master plan of the Villages. http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/Docume....aspx?DID=3350 (PDF Document)

If you find my figures are off, my name is Jose Schwartz and I live in Alaska! :ho:

Huh?

I think I now have a headache and need to go to bed.

Pturner 04-06-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 475914)
I think that it means we have time on our hands. I think we all agree that The Villages is the center of the universe, previously that was in Cincinnati, Ohio.

Now that I think of it, the center of the Universe is now in Athens, Ohio where both of our grandchildren go to school.

But back to your question P, I have heard so many posts over the years about the center of TV and most came from people who just moved into their new village and believed that they were centrally located.

I think that if we wanted to know, we could take out our Villages map and fold it twice and look for where the two folds intersect.

Gracie.

P.S. Where in the world is Carmen Santiago? Is she in the Village of Santiago?

Gracie,
I knew you were smarter than the average Sage! You solved two great puzzles with one great post.

And... um, Carmen. Now you've got nowhere to hide!

Joaniesmom 04-08-2012 12:27 PM

Enough already
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 475831)
I give up. Could someone please 'splain to me the significance of "the exact center" of TV. Why are so many looking for it and why do so many think they've found it?

Is there a hidden treasure buried there? The fountain of youth? An immunity idol?

Jeez! Just what I was thinking! The topic barely deserves a comment, much less forcing someone to apologize.

I'm moving to TV to get away from this useless arguing, so let's all calm down, shall we? :spoken:

CSilvestrucci 04-08-2012 11:55 PM

If you only measure up Buena Vista are you including the historic sections because that ends up on 42?


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