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jdsl1998 04-30-2012 02:26 AM

Villages man killed in accident on Buena Vista
 
Does anyone have information on this accident? The number to call is included at the end of the article.

Charles L. Kusiak charged with DUI/manslaughter in crash that killed passenger | Gainesville.com

GaryW 04-30-2012 04:16 AM

That is crazy. We went by there early sunday morning and it looked like someone had a bad wreck. That is really crazy..

zcaveman 04-30-2012 05:53 AM

There is an article on it in the Daily Sun. I am pretty sure It was just south of the Springdale circle. There was a lamp post down in the median yesterday morning and they mentioned that the car ended up facing Belle MEade Circle.

graciegirl 04-30-2012 06:27 AM

Awful. Awful.

I have seen kids driving at high speeds in the daytime on the main roads here too.

Terrible.

jgbama 04-30-2012 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 486194)
Awful. Awful.

I have seen kids driving at high speeds in the daytime on the main roads here too.

Terrible.

Such a tragic loss of a young life. Seems our "lower paradise" for the 55+ is getting younger and younger. I know the "frogs" (and I'll be one soon) hate to see their "hometown" treated as a novel, vacation place and with such disrespect by young people speeding through the neighborhoods as in this case.

I'll pray for the families of both young people in this accident.

Golfer in Sanibel 04-30-2012 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jdsl1998 (Post 486173)
Does anyone have information on this accident? The number to call is included at the end of the article.

Charles L. Kusiak charged with DUI/manslaughter in crash that killed passenger | Gainesville.com

One life lost and one ruined in a second. Men are indestructable at 23 years old.

villager 04-30-2012 08:44 AM

That happened right behind my parent's house. My mom heard the crash. She said the emergency vehicles were there a long time. The crash was around 2:30 am and they left around 5 am. So sad. I'll print out the article to give to them in case they have any further information for the authorities.

kyblue 04-30-2012 08:55 AM

I wonder why he went to Leesburg Hospital instead of the Villages - if he was treated and released? Is this a reason for concern that for simple things - people do not go to the Villages Hospital?

eweissenbach 04-30-2012 10:14 AM

My dad always said; "nothing good happens after 1 AM."

KathieI 04-30-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 486333)
My dad always said; "nothing good happens after 1 AM."

LOL... oh no??? Hang out with me sometime, lots of fun after 1am :pepper2:

but we're very careful about drinking and driving...
:angel:

ilovetv 04-30-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kyblue (Post 486282)
I wonder why he went to Leesburg Hospital instead of the Villages - if he was treated and released? Is this a reason for concern that for simple things - people do not go to the Villages Hospital?

From this statement in the article, I would conclude that they took him to Leesburg Hospital because he was going to be booked in jail in Lake County:

"Kusiak, who sustained minor injuries, was taken to Leesburg Regional Medical Center. After he was treated, he was taken to the Lake County jail.

DeWeese did say that troopers felt there was enough evidence to immediately charge Kusiak."

dillywho 04-30-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kyblue (Post 486282)
I wonder why he went to Leesburg Hospital instead of the Villages - if he was treated and released? Is this a reason for concern that for simple things - people do not go to the Villages Hospital?

Could be that at that time of the morning, both ER's were needed and the least injured went there (Leesburg).

BobKat1 04-30-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 486333)
My dad always said; "nothing good happens after 1 AM."

The older and wiser (hopefully:)) I get, the more that saying makes sense.

zcaveman 04-30-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 486343)
From this statement in the article, I would conclude that they took him to Leesburg Hospital because he was going to be booked in jail in Lake County:

"Kusiak, who sustained minor injuries, was taken to Leesburg Regional Medical Center. After he was treated, he was taken to the Lake County jail.

DeWeese did say that troopers felt there was enough evidence to immediately charge Kusiak."

Wonder why Lake County jail when the accident was on the Sumter / Marion county border.

ilovetv 04-30-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 486362)
Wonder why Lake County jail when the accident was on the Sumter / Marion county border.

Maybe because it was Florida Highway Patrol who investigated the accident and arrested the driver.

zcaveman 04-30-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 486368)
Maybe because it was Florida Highway Patrol who investigated the accident and arrested the driver.

Thanks. Works for me!

skyguy79 04-30-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 486333)
My dad always said; "nothing good happens after 1 AM."

Hey! My son was born (not conceived) an hour and 50 minutes after 1AM and I always thought that was a very good thing!

jblum315 04-30-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 486333)
My dad always said; "nothing good happens after 1 AM."

My mother always said nothing good happens after midnight.

Bogie Shooter 04-30-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kyblue (Post 486282)
I wonder why he went to Leesburg Hospital instead of the Villages - if he was treated and released? Is this a reason for concern that for simple things - people do not go to the Villages Hospital?

Just what are you trying to say...........or not say???

eweissenbach 04-30-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 486395)
Hey! My son was born (not conceived) an hour and 50 minutes after 1AM and I always thought that was a very good thing!

Proving there is an exception to every rule!

eweissenbach 04-30-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 486403)
My mother always said nothing good happens after midnight.

I grew up in the Central Time Zone. Midnight here is 1 am in TV.

Russ_Boston 04-30-2012 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kyblue (Post 486282)
I wonder why he went to Leesburg Hospital instead of the Villages - if he was treated and released? Is this a reason for concern that for simple things - people do not go to the Villages Hospital?

Same docs work in both. Not sure why they chose Leesburg.

Cateca 04-30-2012 04:51 PM

Villages man killed in accident/Buena Vista
 
Pray explain... If The Vs. is senior-age restricted, how can a 23 or 22 year old be a resident. We did not move here to have drunk twenty somethings residing here endanger our lives. I have no answers. By the way, the Ocala Banner coverage of the accident was more detailed than The Sun's.... Even said driver, who survived, had NO idea who the passenger was.

Villages PL 04-30-2012 04:54 PM

Anyone notice the similarity in the two names? (Kusiak & Kokinakis) Kokinakis sounds Greek to me. I would guess they might be cousins. If they are cousins, this could cause a rift in the family. It's really sad.

Skybo 04-30-2012 05:55 PM

This is just so very sad. My heart goes out to the families and friends of both of these young men.

Indydealmaker 04-30-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cateca (Post 486515)
Pray explain... If The Vs. is senior-age restricted, how can a 23 or 22 year old be a resident. We did not move here to have drunk twenty somethings residing here endanger our lives. I have no answers. By the way, the Ocala Banner coverage of the accident was more detailed than The Sun's.... Even said driver, who survived, had NO idea who the passenger was.

Up to 20% can be under the age of 55. However, none can be under the age of 19 except as a short term visitor. I believe the 20% factor is dictated by the feds.

buggyone 04-30-2012 06:46 PM

There is an age limit that no one under 19 may live in a home in The Villages for more than 30 days a year. A 22 year old is not restricted from living with his parents full time.

eweissenbach 04-30-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 486566)
There is an age limit that no one under 19 may live in a home in The Villages for more than 30 days a year. A 22 year old is not restricted from living with his parents full time.

A 22 year old could live with parents or grandparents, could own or co-own a home in TV, or could own a home in one of the three "family" villages.

chuckinca 04-30-2012 07:22 PM

Could also be a renter.

looneycat 04-30-2012 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 486568)
A 22 year old could live with parents or grandparents, could own or co-own a home in TV, or could own a home in one of the three "family" villages.

family villages?

eweissenbach 04-30-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by looneycat (Post 486585)
family villages?

There are at least three family villages; Oak Meadows, Bison Valley, and Spring Arbor. They exist primarily for families of employees of the villages. They do not have access to all the amenities of TV.

Pturner 04-30-2012 08:07 PM

My heart goes out to the families. Such a tragic waste.

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Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 486403)
My mother always said nothing good happens after midnight.

Jblum, please, please forgive me for saying this but um... your Momma was wrong. I was born one minute after midnight.

... Oh dear, I hope she was wrong. :shocked:

JLHart 04-30-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 486474)
Same docs work in both. Not sure why they chose Leesburg.

Because Leesburg is the regional Trauma center. They prob life flighted him out as the hella pad is at the Marion Co. Police substation just up Buena Vista at cr42.

JimPete 04-30-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 486601)
Jblum, please, please forgive me for saying this but um... your Momma was wrong. I was born one minute after midnight.

... Oh dear, I hope she was wrong. :shocked:

There are exceptions.

Jim

SALYBOW 05-01-2012 01:31 AM

Why Leesburg?
 
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Originally Posted by kyblue (Post 486282)
I wonder why he went to Leesburg Hospital instead of the Villages - if he was treated and released? Is this a reason for concern that for simple things - people do not go to the Villages Hospital?

The Villages is not a trauma hospital so auto accidents are not taken there. Besides a paramedic does not make the decision how serious an injured person is, so they are all treated as possibly serious and taken to a trauma hospital.

Last Wednesday I got a bad burn from a cooking fire. We went to The Villages hospital and I was treated very well with only a 10-20 minute or so wait. If only this sucker would heal as fast!

graciegirl 05-01-2012 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SALYBOW (Post 486650)
The Villages is not a trauma hospital so auto accidents are not taken there. Besides a paramedic does not make the decision how serious an injured person is, so they are all treated as possibly serious and taken to a trauma hospital.

Last Wednesday I got a bad burn from a cooking fire. We went to The Villages hospital and I was treated very well with only a 10-20 minute or so wait. If only this sucker would heal as fast!

OH NO Sally! Prayers and hugs.

GaryW 05-01-2012 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cateca (Post 486515)
Pray explain... If The Vs. is senior-age restricted, how can a 23 or 22 year old be a resident. We did not move here to have drunk twenty somethings residing here endanger our lives. I have no answers. By the way, the Ocala Banner coverage of the accident was more detailed than The Sun's.... Even said driver, who survived, had NO idea who the passenger was.

But I guess that is not much better than a drunken senior citizen flying down the mutlti-modal paths on golf carts and better yet,, driving home from the square after a few happy hour to many drinks. The age and drunk are not the concern. If you think there are no drunks here over twenty something, then you might want to rethink things. SCSO had a lady pulled over on cr-101 by crispers Saturday night doing the ole filed sobriety check,, I know she was everybit over 50, if not 60.

So get back to the issue,, not age,, but speed and drinking.

graciegirl 05-01-2012 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GaryW (Post 486664)
But I guess that is not much better than a drunken senior citizen flying down the mutlti-modal paths on golf carts and better yet,, driving home from the square after a few happy hour to many drinks. The age and drunk are not the concern. If you think there are no drunks here over twenty something, then you might want to rethink things. SCSO had a lady pulled over on cr-101 by crispers Saturday night doing the ole filed sobriety check,, I know she was everybit over 50, if not 60.

So get back to the issue,, not age,, but speed and drinking.


But in a way it IS a issue of age. This IS an over 55 community...not one for young people. If seniors are driving drunk it is wrong, but the community was built for THEM. Many of us came here to avoid things such as this.

MOMMYS3ANGLS 05-01-2012 07:55 AM

the Villages Hospital is not equipped for any major traumas. Anyone I know that has been injured or extremely ill has either gone directly to Leesburg or transported from TVRH by ambulance to Leesburg.

GaryW 05-01-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 486704)
But in a way it IS a issue of age. This IS an over 55 community...not one for young people. If seniors are driving drunk it is wrong, but the community was built for THEM. Many of us came here to avoid things such as this.

The only problem with that way of thought is that your in Florida,, Not a Island away from everyone. Unless you lock up all the roads, you will have that happen. Now if it had been a senior citizen and the same thing would have happend, then would it of been ok????
I was replying to the Twenty Something Drunks, Does not matter where you go unless you are on a Island by yourself no way around that..

In my 30 years of being around The Villages, I have seen alot worse. The way alot of the people act around the squares and at the stores, you would think they were twenty something.. I go back to thinking about the person on the bike that got ran over and backed over and parked on. Was that alright because the person that owned the golf cart was of age to live in TV????? That is why I say the age is not relevant. Not that is not important. But dont matter if your drunk, 21 or 91. Your Drunk and no way around it ..


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