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hulahips 05-09-2012 07:39 AM

Lock your doors
 
everyone should know by now if you get emails there was a Home Invasion over near Winifred. Someone broke in and stabbed the husband and wife came home and found him. Not in Daily sun of course. This is important info we must know. If anyone needs to see email let me know. Be SAFE!!

Here2Stay 05-09-2012 07:46 AM

Break IN
 
That is so sad to hear, I wonder to this day why we even have gates, anyone is allowed in, guess it helps the Villages sell more homes giving folks the feelling of being secure, know it did me...and within 24 hours after closing realized the truth. Sad that this happens, and NOT surprised this was not mentioned in the Daily Sun, it's controlled by the Morse family

graciegirl 05-09-2012 07:48 AM

Husband came home from golf yesterday and said there was police presence, crime scene tape, and a Crime Scene investigation truck in the driveway on the street that Tierra del Sol is on. But that is on the Morse Boulevard side (East). Winifred is on the Buena Vista side.(West)

There was no mention of the one he saw in the Sun today. No police blotter today at all. Maybe tomorrow? I know the paper waits to get the official report from the police and maybe it had not been released yet this morning.

Hula? How did you hear this?

hulahips 05-09-2012 07:52 AM

Lock your doors
 
it's being sent around internet. Also another incident where man was getting up at 4 am to leave for airport , opened his front door and saw a man in a hoodie and asked him What do you want?? He ran away. Don't think it said what village that was.

Gates are just a "false sense of security" not really security in villages.

be safe everyone. be cautious. don't let your guard down. Watch out for your neighbors. Protect each other by observing unusual patterns.

graciegirl 05-09-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulahips (Post 490175)
it's being sent around internet. Also another incident where man was getting up at 4 am to leave for airport , opened his front door and saw a man in a hoodie and asked him What do you want?? He ran away. Don't think it said what village that was.

Gates are just a "false sense of security" not really security in villages.

be safe everyone. be cautious. don't let your guard down. Watch out for your neighbors. Protect each other by observing unusual patterns.

Was this email origninally sent from someone you know pretty well? I hate to question you on this, but sometimes something seen on one side of town becomes something on another side of town and something completely different.

Just trying to keep fear from spreading until we find out all of the facts.

Your words are caring and correct. We should always be observant and protective of each other.

billethkid 05-09-2012 07:59 AM

I did not think there was anybody who even thought that TV even came close to being a "gated" community. The gates merely serve to some what control traffic.

Just about every single village is accessible to a road or one nearby.....just like any other community on the planet.

Lock your doors? Is really anybody who does not?

Unfortunate incidents? Yes. And remember to be inquisitive about the source of information in email pronouncements.

TV is a population of over 85,000....there will be incidents....however in TV thank GOD they are few and far between....safer than most places.

btk

buggyone 05-09-2012 08:03 AM

Does anyone have any newspaper link or police incident link to this home invasion?

It would certainly be in one of the local papers - if not the Daily Sun - if it really happened.

graciegirl 05-09-2012 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 490183)
Does anyone have any newspaper link or police incident link to this home invasion?

It would certainly be in one of the local papers - if not the Daily Sun - if it really happened.

The police blotter is not published every day in the Daily Sun. I am thinking about calling there.

Taltarzac725 05-09-2012 08:07 AM

There's nothing on the emergency call log for Sumter County.
 
Sumter County, Florida (FL) Live Police, Fire, and EMS Scanners on RadioReference.com

graciegirl 05-09-2012 08:13 AM

I called The Sun's news desk and spoke to a woman named Meta (pronouced May-tah) and told her that a stabbing in Winifred was being reported on Talk of the Villages and she said they have been deluged with calls about this and as far as she is able to ascertain it is an Urban Legend. She took my number and said that she will call me back, one way or another if she hears anything that can be substantiated..

Taltarzac725 05-09-2012 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 490187)
I called The Sun's news desk and spoke to a woman named Meta (pronouced May-tah) and told her that a stabbing in Winifred was being reported on Talk of the Villages and she said they have been deluged with calls about this and as far as she is able to ascertain it is an Urban Legend. She took my number and said that she will call me back, one way or another if she hears anything that can be substantiated..

Looks like the radio emergency log site I linked in my post above would get police emergencies as well as fire and traffic accidents. http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=375

I checked up on the Miami area emergency log and that shows various police chases and the like. http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=328

Figmo Bohica 05-09-2012 08:18 AM

Words to the wise.

1. Keep your doors locked, even when you are home. It will stop someone from just walking in on you.

2. Keep your gargage door closed when you are home or not in the gargage specially when you are in your back yard.

3. If someone is breaking into your home, leave by the back or front entrance away from the person and start screaming FIRE. That will get you more help then yelling HELP. Remember everyone want to see a FIRE but most don't care if you need HELP.

4. IF and that is a big IF, you have a defensive fireams in your home learn home to use them safely and practice what you will do in case of an emergency that would require the use of your firearm.

5. Last, its best to retreat from a threat if at all possible and you can safely do so with out putting you or your family in danger. Call the authorities, let them deal with it, that is what we pay them for.

I know that Florida has a "Stand Your Ground" Law, the Castle Doctrine, but standing your ground when under stress and not knowning what to do and doing something that would be a life changing event is not what you want to have happen to you. With all the I training I do and know, I will still retreat if I can and can do safely. Hopefully I will never have to make use of the Castle Doctrine.

Barefoot 05-09-2012 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulahips (Post 490175)
it's being sent around internet. Also another incident where man was getting up at 4 am to leave for airport , opened his front door and saw a man in a hoodie and asked him What do you want?? He ran away. Don't think it said what village that was.

Unfortunately, everything that is "being sent around the internet" isn't fact. I'm not saying that this stabbing in Winifred didn't happen! But I think we need confirmation of serious events before we ring the alarm bells. (Of course locking your doors is always a good idea!)

Taltarzac725 05-09-2012 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 490194)
Unfortunately, everything that is "being sent around the internet" isn't fact. I'm not saying that this stabbing in Winifred didn't happen! But I think we need confirmation of serious events before we ring the alarm bells. (Of course locking your doors is always a good idea!)

I never believe any thing sent via e-mail at first sight. So much of it is BS.

senior citizen 05-09-2012 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 490192)
Looks like the radio emergency log site I linked in my post above would get police emergencies as well as fire and traffic accidents. Sumter County, Florida (FL) Live Police, Fire, and EMS Scanners on RadioReference.com

I checked up on the Miami area emergency log and that shows various police chases and the like. Miami-Dade County, Florida (FL) Live Police, Fire, and EMS Scanners on RadioReference.com

Could that trauma alert in THE VILLAGES be the one? Just asking?
Do not know. Many thanks for the site. It is appreciated........

Just my humble opinion, but............

Several times, when the discussion has been re men on the sexual predator list, with photos of said men, who live in THE VILLAGES.....the concern of some of us has been made to look foolish.

Many of these "guys" probably have other arrest warrants as well as being sexual predators. How do they ever get to buy or rent in The Villages? Or, could they be living with their elderly parents and doing as they please to "earn" money.

Whether or not the "urban legend" is true as someone else stated.......everyone has to be aware and the local newspaper should print the facts.

Home invasions and stabbings or shootings or whatever, even breakins without violence, would give me the creeps. All of the TV homes are very easy to break into from the lanai and birdcage areas.

Anyone who reads the unmentionable paper out of Orlando would know how rampant crime is in the state of Florida.

Also, with so many on drugs nowadays, they need money to support their habits.

Maybe the intruder was surprised by the unfortunate victim who was later found by his wife...........?

If it is an urban legend, who in their right mind would start that????
I surely hope that it's all a mixup.

skyking 05-09-2012 09:12 AM

Reminds me of the stories about men being drugged in Las Vegas and waking up in the bathtub, covered in blood, missing a kidney. Who starts these rumors? And why? Please do not pass them on unless they are substantiated.

Posh 08 05-09-2012 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 490193)
Words to the wise.

1. Keep your doors locked, even when you are home. It will stop someone from just walking in on you.

2. Keep your gargage door closed when you are home or not in the gargage specially when you are in your back yard.

3. If someone is breaking into your home, leave by the back or front entrance away from the person and start screaming FIRE. That will get you more help then yelling HELP. Remember everyone want to see a FIRE but most don't care if you need HELP.

4. IF and that is a big IF, you have a defensive fireams in your home learn home to use them safely and practice what you will do in case of an emergency that would require the use of your firearm

5. Last, its best to retreat from a threat if at all possible and you can safely do so with out putting you or your family in danger. Call the authorities, let them deal with it, that is what we pay them for.

I know that Florida has a "Stand Your Ground" Law, the Castle Doctrine, but standing your ground when under stress and not knowning what to do and doing something that would be a life changing event is not what you want to have happen to you. With all the I training I do and know, I will still retreat if I can and can do safely. Hopefully I will never have to make use of the Castle Doctrine.

Sound advice.

Penguin 05-09-2012 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 490193)
Words to the wise.

1. Keep your doors locked, even when you are home. It will stop someone from just walking in on you.

2. Keep your gargage door closed when you are home or not in the gargage specially when you are in your back yard.

3. If someone is breaking into your home, leave by the back or front entrance away from the person and start screaming FIRE. That will get you more help then yelling HELP. Remember everyone want to see a FIRE but most don't care if you need HELP.

4. IF and that is a big IF, you have a defensive fireams in your home learn home to use them safely and practice what you will do in case of an emergency that would require the use of your firearm.

5. Last, its best to retreat from a threat if at all possible and you can safely do so with out putting you or your family in danger. Call the authorities, let them deal with it, that is what we pay them for.

I know that Florida has a "Stand Your Ground" Law, the Castle Doctrine, but standing your ground when under stress and not knowning what to do and doing something that would be a life changing event is not what you want to have happen to you. With all the I training I do and know, I will still retreat if I can and can do safely. Hopefully I will never have to make use of the Castle Doctrine.

Hopefully everyone will heed your advice. Great stuff FB. :BigApplause:

graciegirl 05-09-2012 09:39 AM

Meta from The Daily Sun called me back just now and she said apparently there was a grain of truth to this story but the stab wounds or cut places were self inflicted.

She said The Sun does not like to report things like suicides or anything that could be related to a person's mental illness.

jimbo2012 05-09-2012 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 490193)
Words to the wise.

IF and that is a big IF, you have a defensive fireams in your home learn home to use them safely and practice what you will do in case of an emergency that would require the use of your firearm.

It's a good last resort option being mindful of the consequences,
I assume in Fl you need a permit for a hand gun but not a handy 12Ga. shotgun.

Is there a nearby range to practice?

graciegirl 05-09-2012 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 490237)
Meta from The Daily Sun called me back just now and she said apparently there was a grain of truth to this story but the stab wounds or cut places were self inflicted.

She said The Sun does not like to report things like suicides or anything that could be related to a person's mental illness.

I am bumping my own post because Jimbo and I were typing at the same time.

ilovetv 05-09-2012 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 490193)
Words to the wise.

1. Keep your doors locked, even when you are home. It will stop someone from just walking in on you.

2. Keep your gargage door closed when you are home or not in the gargage specially when you are in your back yard.

3. If someone is breaking into your home, leave by the back or front entrance away from the person and start screaming FIRE. That will get you more help then yelling HELP. Remember everyone want to see a FIRE but most don't care if you need HELP.

4. IF and that is a big IF, you have a defensive fireams in your home learn home to use them safely and practice what you will do in case of an emergency that would require the use of your firearm.

5. Last, its best to retreat from a threat if at all possible and you can safely do so with out putting you or your family in danger. Call the authorities, let them deal with it, that is what we pay them for.

I know that Florida has a "Stand Your Ground" Law, the Castle Doctrine, but standing your ground when under stress and not knowning what to do and doing something that would be a life changing event is not what you want to have happen to you. With all the I training I do and know, I will still retreat if I can and can do safely. Hopefully I will never have to make use of the Castle Doctrine.

Figmo: Are you planning another class like the one you presented a few months ago, on personal safety and firearms? I could not attend that one and would like to.

drdodge 05-09-2012 10:30 AM

Locks only keep honest people out

drd

ceejay 05-09-2012 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulahips (Post 490175)
it's being sent around internet. Also another incident where man was getting up at 4 am to leave for airport , opened his front door and saw a man in a hoodie and asked him What do you want?? He ran away. Don't think it said what village that was.

Gates are just a "false sense of security" not really security in villages.

be safe everyone. be cautious. don't let your guard down. Watch out for your neighbors. Protect each other by observing unusual patterns.

This particular incident happens to be true.

The man who was up and leaving for the airport spotted the hoodied guy across the street at a neighbors house, trying to get in the front door. He called out to him and hoody ran away.

This happened the other night in the Village of Amelia.

buggyone 05-09-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceejay (Post 490268)
This particular incident happens to be true.

The man who was up and leaving for the airport spotted the hoodied guy across the street at a neighbors house, trying to get in the front door. He called out to him and hoody ran away.

This happened the other night in the Village of Amelia.


IF it is true, I am sure the man leaving for the airport at 4 a.m. called the Sheriff's office right away and gave a statement to the deputy with a time, description of the "hoodied guy", which direction he ran, etc.

Bosoxfan 05-09-2012 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 490273)
IF it is true, I am sure the man leaving for the airport at 4 a.m. called the Sheriff's office right away and gave a statement to the deputy with a time, description of the "hoodied guy", which direction he ran, etc.

no "IF" about it.This did happen and yes the sherriffs came!

zcaveman 05-09-2012 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 490240)
I assume in Fl you need a permit for a hand gun.

Not sure that that is true. If you buy a hand gun from a dealer there is a form that you have to fill out. If you buy from a private person there is no form.

Taltarzac725 05-09-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 490237)
Meta from The Daily Sun called me back just now and she said apparently there was a grain of truth to this story but the stab wounds or cut places were self inflicted.

She said The Sun does not like to report things like suicides or anything that could be related to a person's mental illness.

That's good to hear, graciegirl, about the Villages Daily Sun not printing stuff about mental illness. There are very strong prejudices against people with some kind of mental illness. And, it is probably not a good idea to report on suicides in case this might trigger people with very real mental illnesses to copy this act.

Unless there is some kind of history of abuse in the family or some other kind of factors involved, it is best that mental illnesses remain an issue of the family involved and their mental health professionals.

rubicon 05-09-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceejay (Post 490268)
This particular incident happens to be true.

The man who was up and leaving for the airport spotted the hoodied guy across the street at a neighbors house, trying to get in the front door. He called out to him and hoody ran away.

This happened the other night in the Village of Amelia.

See Geraldo Rivera was right about the concerns from people who wear hoodies. If I saw a strange guy wearing a hoodie in on my streets, I'd follow him to see what he was up to and be ready to stand my ground. Oh that's been done already. Kidding aside, I too was left with thei mpression that The Villages was a gated community. I have safety concerns because there are so many dynamics going on all at once. building/construction, vendors/contractors with employed help they probably never do background checks on, renters, people gone from their homes months at a time and many transient people create some real opportunities for the dishonest. Now throw in elderly and the false impression that people living here are all rich and you have motive. Law enforcement would do better by us to patrol neighbors rather than sit on buena vista picking up speeders.

duffysmom 05-09-2012 12:37 PM

Thank you GG for taking action and getting the facts. :BigApplause: My sister is moving to Winifred and this would freak her out big time.

I wonder how many people have security systems installed.

hdh1470 05-09-2012 12:40 PM

:BigApplause:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 490196)
I never believe any thing sent via e-mail at first sight. So much of it is BS.

:BigApplause::BigApplause Even on this site,somebody here's something from someone repeats here.Reminds me of when in grade school and the teacher would whisper to a student a story and have them do the same to the next student til it went around the whole class.: By that time in was a different story.

senior citizen 05-09-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 490322)
See Geraldo Rivera was right about the concerns from people who wear hoodies. If I saw a strange guy wearing a hoodie in on my streets, I'd follow him to see what he was up to and be ready to stand my ground. Oh that's been done already. Kidding aside, I too was left with thei mpression that The Villages was a gated community. I have safety concerns because there are so many dynamics going on all at once. building/construction, vendors/contractors with employed help they probably never do background checks on, renters, people gone from their homes months at a time and many transient people create some real opportunities for the dishonest. Now throw in elderly and the false impression that people living here are all rich and you have motive. Law enforcement would do better by us to patrol neighbors rather than sit on buena vista picking up speeders.

You are spot on to have concerns ; ditto for your comment on the various dynamics going on all at once.

We noticed the same thing with regard to the huge amounts of "help" and not to be mean or politically incorrect, but most looked like they did not have documentation........who knows if background checks are done on them.

Many probably are just trying to earn their wages, but others could be jealous as to what they perceive as the lifestyle of the rich and whatever....living the life they only dream about. It could be tempting and again, those homes are so easy to break into.

Up here at least we know our pool guys and our landscapers; we all know their families; we've seen them grow up from babyhood........it's a lot different in Florida. Ditto for other workmen. We know our carpenters and plumbers and their families for 40 plus years. People all go to church together and their kids all go to school together.

It's a trifle different with these migrant workers....or transients as you called them. Coming from afar, the place looks a lot different than the picture of safety imagined.........meaning it would not be that difficult to harm an elder if someone wanted to.

If true that the "crime scene" was a self inflicted wound, it's good news and bad news (for the loved ones).

TV may be a friendly enclave of villages, but it still NOT a small town where everyone knows each other.

That said, we did notice a lot of those "neighborhood watch cars" out and about.........but I never saw them at dusk or dawn when someone could be lurking around.....hoodie or not.

Someone who worked for a landscaper...... or pool person.....they just walked right into our lanai to put chemicals in. If someone had their sliders open, anything could happen. Ditto for the guys who power wash the screens on the lanai and birdcage........on the inside, as well as the outside. They could gain easy entry..........as could the landscapers.....who were all around the golf course adjoining the property, as well as the owner's crew.
Very early in the a.m. I might add. Plus, the newspaper guy came very early at or before dawn.

Anyway, glad the story had a conclusion that was NOT "harm done by a stranger."

Bogie Shooter 05-09-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 490333)
You are spot on to have concerns ; ditto for your comment on the various dynamics going on all at once.

We noticed the same thing with regard to the huge amounts of "help" and not to be mean or politically incorrect, but most looked like they did not have documentation........who knows if background checks are done on them.
How can you tell by looks?
Many probably are just trying to earn their wages Right!, but others could be jealous as to what they perceive as the lifestyle of the rich and whatever....living the life they only dream about. It could be tempting and again, those homes are so easy to break into. Not all "those homes" are easy to break into.
Up here at least we know our pool guys and our landscapers; we all know their families; we've seen them grow up from babyhood........it's a lot different in Florida. Does this mean there are no places in Florida where this exists?
Ditto for other workmen. We know our carpenters and plumbers and their families for 40 plus years. People all go to church together and their kids all go to school together.

It's a trifle different with these migrant workers....or transients as you called them. You do realize that these people are working all over the US?
Coming from afar, the place looks a lot different than the picture of safety imagined.........meaning it would not be that difficult to harm an elder if someone wanted to. This could happen,even up there, where ever that is.
If true that the "crime scene" was a self inflicted wound, it's good news and bad news (for the loved ones).

TV may be a friendly enclave of villages, but it still NOT a small town where everyone knows each other.

That said, we did notice a lot of those "neighborhood watch cars" out and about.........but I never saw them at dusk or dawn when someone could be lurking around.....hoodie or not. FYI they patrol 24 hours a day.
Someone who worked for a landscaper...... or pool person.....they just walked right into our lanai to put chemicals in. If someone had their sliders open, anything could happen. Ditto for the guys who power wash the screens on the lanai and birdcage........on the inside, as well as the outside. They could gain easy entry..........as could the landscapers.....who were all around the golf course adjoining the property, as well as the owner's crew. I don't see how this is any different than anywhere else in the US Very early in the a.m. I might add. Plus, the newspaper guy came very early at or before dawn. How is this so unusual?Anyway, glad the story had a conclusion that was NOT "harm done by a stranger."

A good example of racial profiling.

graciegirl 05-09-2012 01:31 PM

Getting back to the original subject.
 
Just to keep our smiles intact...in summary, there was no home invasion.

It is another beautiful day in The Villages.







Disclaimer. I don't work for them or know them, but would like to. (know them)

Taltarzac725 05-09-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 490348)
Just to keep our smiles intact...in summary, there was no home invasion.

It is another beautiful day in The Villages.







Disclaimer. I don't work for them or know them, but would like to. (know them)

You will probably get a visit to their yacht if you keep this up graciegirl! :thumbup:

jimbo2012 05-09-2012 01:39 PM

So this begs the question how many have alarm systems in their home?

Bogie Shooter 05-09-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 490352)
So this begs the question how many have alarm systems in their home?

Maybe a door to door survey is in order..............

Taltarzac725 05-09-2012 01:49 PM

I just have a shotgun and a chihuahua.

Posh 08 05-09-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 490358)
I just have a shotgun and a chihuahua.

I like that combo.

jimbo2012 05-09-2012 01:52 PM

Me too!

I used to have a Rottie, this little guy is a better watchdog

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3360/3...e6b5a4d5_z.jpg

and these

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/im...D-SNFd1-7E7czE


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