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Guest 07-11-2012 07:16 AM

ACORN whistle blower tomorrow night
 
Tomorrow night at Lake Miona Rec Center Americans for Prosperity presents Anita Moncrief, the black woman who blew the whistle on ACORN. She is fabulous. Right from the Horses mouth to all you liberals. Come armed with your questions. How can you deny reality??

also is Brandon Darby the FBI Informant who helped defuse a firebomb plot at the 08 Republican National Convention!!

A not to be missed event!!

Guest 07-11-2012 08:35 AM

Sure to be a real lovefest.

Guest 07-11-2012 08:44 AM

Sounds like a complete waste of time and a big joke to me. You have a couple of right wing wubers talking to a bunch of right wing wubers. What do you expect to accomplish? There are not going to be any Democrats attending the bashing session. It will just be preaching to your own choir. No one is going to have an sudden change of heart and say, "Oh, now I see! I have to vote Republican instead of Democrat!"

Guest 07-11-2012 09:02 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 519823)
Sounds like a complete waste of time and a big joke to me. You have a couple of right wing wubers talking to a bunch of right wing wubers. What do you expect to accomplish? There are not going to be any Democrats attending the bashing session. It will just be preaching to your own choir. No one is going to have an sudden change of heart and say, "Oh, now I see! I have to vote Republican instead of Democrat!"

buggyone: Validation as to what one believes is necessary and helpful. This speaker will no doubt add to the information already relayed by other sources and by doing so add to the credibility of said information. ACORN was harmful to freedoms valued by you and me. In fact its original and formal founder, a white male, speaking to a NBC reporter acknowledged that ACORN did some despicable things. Why would you not welcome the sushine?

Guest 07-11-2012 09:09 AM

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buggyone: Validation as to what one believes is necessary and helpful. This speaker will no doubt add to the information already relayed by other sources and by doing so add to the credibility of said information. ACORN was harmful to freedoms valued by you and me. In fact its original and formal founder, a white male, speaking to a NBC reporter acknowledged that ACORN did some despicable things. Why would you not welcome the sushine?

We dont want to embarass THE PARTY !!!

Guest 07-11-2012 09:19 AM

Will ID be required to get in ????

You have to see the irony in this...

"Earlier today, Attorney General Eric Holder addressed the NAACP Nation Convention at the George R. Brown Convention Center in Houston, Texas. What did media need in order to attend? That's right, government issued photo identification (and a second form of identification too!), something both Holder and the NAACP stand firmly against when it comes to voting. Holder's DOJ is currently suing Texas for "discriminatory" voter ID laws. From the press release:"

NAACP Requires Photo I.D. to See Holder Speak in State Being Sued Over Voter ID - Katie Pavlich

Guest 07-11-2012 09:44 AM

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Will ID be required to get in ????

You have to see the irony in this...

"Earlier today, Attorney General Eric Holder addressed the NAACP Nation Convention at the George R. Brown Convention Center in Houston, Texas. What did media need in order to attend? That's right, government issued photo identification (and a second form of identification too!), something both Holder and the NAACP stand firmly against when it comes to voting. Holder's DOJ is currently suing Texas for "discriminatory" voter ID laws. From the press release:"

NAACP Requires Photo I.D. to See Holder Speak in State Being Sued Over Voter ID - Katie Pavlich

:1rotfl:

Guest 07-11-2012 10:03 AM

Read the article and you will see it is for security purposes. Nothing wrong with security, is there? The Attorney General of the US is a Cabinet Official and therefore has Secret Service protection and security procedures are in effect during his presence at any function.

Your ridicule is amazing and also childish.

Guest 07-11-2012 10:09 AM

Will be a good informative meeting for those who are Ignorant of what Acorn was even about. Lots of folks unfortunately out there like that today. That's how the O got in office. If you saw the news the other night when they ask the young people who their favorite founding father is they have no clue. One girl responded "What is a founding father?" How sad this country is. People like that should NOT even be ALLOWED to vote. But thats another topic "Our government schools today" and the dumbing down of America

Guest 07-11-2012 10:13 AM

no James O'Keefe?

Guest 07-11-2012 10:58 AM

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Read the article and you will see it is for security purposes. Nothing wrong with security, is there? The Attorney General of the US is a Cabinet Official and therefore has Secret Service protection and security procedures are in effect during his presence at any function.

Your ridicule is amazing and also childish.

Isn't ridicule, name calling and sarcasm childish ????? Yes sir !!

PS...OH, and security of the man (Holder) outweighs the security of the Vote ??? Just asking

Guest 07-11-2012 11:02 AM

Could have told you response from left,also doubt even 1 will show up.My daughter is a Atty that lives in D C and had been on a Senator from Maryland's staff.She is as left as one can be.They will not discuss and believe anything that goes against what they perceive to be true.You just get some sarcastic remark.

Guest 07-11-2012 11:06 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 519831)
buggyone: Validation as to what one believes is necessary and helpful. This speaker will no doubt add to the information already relayed by other sources and by doing so add to the credibility of said information. ACORN was harmful to freedoms valued by you and me. In fact its original and formal founder, a white male, speaking to a NBC reporter acknowledged that ACORN did some despicable things. Why would you not welcome the sushine?

Ain't no sunshine when she's gone.

Guest 07-11-2012 11:25 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 519904)
Isn't ridicule, name calling and sarcasm childish ????? Yes sir !!

PS...OH, and security of the man (Holder) outweighs the security of the Vote ??? Just asking

I don't quite follow your PS. Are you asking if the Attorney General's personal security at a convention outweighs the integrity of voting?

It is two different things completely and for two different reasons.

I have no problem with showing a photo ID when voting but it should be made readily accessible to all without a monetary charge.

Guest 07-11-2012 11:33 AM

The courts will decide if these voter ID laws are legal or not. Meanwhile, couldn't the Americans for Prosperity group find a more timely topic for the meeting, say something happening in 2012 not 2008?

Guest 07-11-2012 11:36 AM

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I don't quite follow your PS. Are you asking if the Attorney General's personal security at a convention outweighs the integrity of voting?

It is two different things completely and for two different reasons.

I have no problem with showing a photo ID when voting but it should be made readily accessible to all without a monetary charge.

Great, and we agree that ridicule, name calling and sarcasm is amazing and also childish.

Have a great day

Guest 07-11-2012 12:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 519920)
I don't quite follow your PS. Are you asking if the Attorney General's personal security at a convention outweighs the integrity of voting?

It is two different things completely and for two different reasons.

I have no problem with showing a photo ID when voting but it should be made readily accessible to all without a monetary charge.

States wanting photo ID requirements are offering them free to voters. This red herring Holder is attempting to hang over states is well transparent...and its about the only thing transparent in the Obama Administration. How can one logically argue against wanting to prevent voter fraud. buggyone you are the one that always comes out front in favor of law and order issues even as respects enborcement of the cartpaths. Please be fair and balanced here you know down in your gut that the only reason Holder wants to fight photo ID's is because its hard to have a dead guy present one to a precinct clerk and that like the guy I television that bragged he voted 17 times in the last presidential election it will now be impossible to do so,,,and guess who he voted for....hint it wasn't the guy who sit in a vietnam prision for six years.

Guest 07-11-2012 12:25 PM

in Texas a concealed handgun license is acceptable to vote,a student I.D. is not. This is part of voter ID problem...which are good which aen't and why?

Guest 07-11-2012 12:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 519928)
The courts will decide if these voter ID laws are legal or not. Meanwhile, couldn't the Americans for Prosperity group find a more timely topic for the meeting, say something happening in 2012 not 2008?

Oh I don't know...the President is ALWAYS referring to 2004/5/6/7/8 or whatever year he needs !!!!

Yeah, it is terrible...Romney taking us to the 50's as you guys accused him off on Russia....oh wait...they just sent warships to Syria...hmmmmmm

ok

Guest 07-11-2012 12:56 PM

so now some wants free ids just 1 more entitlement ,We are broke,and left don't get it.look at the growing lists of towns going bankrupt and it just the tip of the Iceberg.And I would bet that most will be by areas run by the left.

Guest 07-11-2012 01:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 519944)
States wanting photo ID requirements are offering them free to voters. This red herring Holder is attempting to hang over states is well transparent...and its about the only thing transparent in the Obama Administration. How can one logically argue against wanting to prevent voter fraud. buggyone you are the one that always comes out front in favor of law and order issues even as respects enborcement of the cartpaths. Please be fair and balanced here you know down in your gut that the only reason Holder wants to fight photo ID's is because its hard to have a dead guy present one to a precinct clerk and that like the guy I television that bragged he voted 17 times in the last presidential election it will now be impossible to do so,,,and guess who he voted for....hint it wasn't the guy who sit in a vietnam prision for six years.

I never heard of anyone bragging he voted 17 times in the last election. I am not doubting you, of course.

Didn't I just say in a post that I have no problem with a voter photo ID? I would just want them to be easily accessible to everyone at no cost. From what I can tell, Florida charges $25 for a state photo ID card and you have to jump through lots of hoops.

Guest 07-11-2012 01:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 519977)
I never heard of anyone bragging he voted 17 times in the last election. I am not doubting you, of course.

Didn't I just say in a post that I have no problem with a voter photo ID? I would just want them to be easily accessible to everyone at no cost. From what I can tell, Florida charges $25 for a state photo ID card and you have to jump through lots of hoops.

buggyone: the news media was doing field work in the black community testing to see if these folks would again vote for Obama. One gentlemen said he voted 17 times for Obama in the last election while 3 other guys admited to vote a number of times but would not offer a number. I have no doubts this type of thing has been happening for a number of years but I was dumbfounded that these four guys would admit it.

Guest 07-11-2012 01:58 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 519948)
in Texas a concealed handgun license is acceptable to vote,a student I.D. is not. This is part of voter ID problem...which are good which aen't and why?

There is a good reason for this. Student ID's are issued to all students including residents of other states and students from other countries. Texas would prefer to limit the vote to residents of Texas and not include people from Saudi Arabia or even Oklahoma.

Guest 07-11-2012 02:11 PM

Texas voter ID is a poll tax....and therefore, illegal.

Guest 07-11-2012 02:35 PM

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Texas voter ID is a poll tax....and therefore, illegal.

So as a negative to a negative in sentences result in a positive or affirmtive statement does that mean applying the illegal Texas voter ID to an illegal alien voting in Texas makes it a positive?

And most important are you catching many fish?

Guest 07-11-2012 02:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 520037)
Texas voter ID is a poll tax....and therefore, illegal.

Where is the tax? It's free.

Guest 07-11-2012 04:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 519991)
buggyone: the news media was doing field work in the black community testing to see if these folks would again vote for Obama. One gentlemen said he voted 17 times for Obama in the last election while 3 other guys admited to vote a number of times but would not offer a number. I have no doubts this type of thing has been happening for a number of years but I was dumbfounded that these four guys would admit it.

I haven't been able to find the story you mentioned of the gentleman who said he voted 17 times. While searching, I found this story about PA state rep, Mike Turzai, a GOP lawmaker, saying on camera that the voter ID law PA recently passed is "gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of PA". It would seem, according to Turzai, that the law wasn't passed because of voter fraud but to disenfranchise 750,000 voters.

I would think that the judge that hears this case won't take too kindly to Turzai's remarks as they are played over and over in court.



Mike Turzai, GOP Lawmaker Behind Controversial Voter ID Remark, Was Backed By Education Union

Guest 07-11-2012 04:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 520056)
Where is the tax? It's free.

Our AG says having to pay for a picture id is a poll tax

Guest 07-11-2012 04:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 519869)
Read the article and you will see it is for security purposes. Nothing wrong with security, is there? The Attorney General of the US is a Cabinet Official and therefore has Secret Service protection and security procedures are in effect during his presence at any function.

Your ridicule is amazing and also childish.

Your myopic bias is bordering on pure unadulterated...................I can't say it.

Guest 07-11-2012 04:47 PM

Maybe if he wasn't a moron he wouldn't need protection?

Guest 07-11-2012 05:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 520051)
So as a negative to a negative in sentences result in a positive or affirmtive statement does that mean applying the illegal Texas voter ID to an illegal alien voting in Texas makes it a positive?

And most important are you catching many fish?

Huh???

Guest 07-11-2012 05:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 520120)
Maybe if he wasn't a moron he wouldn't need protection?

That didn't prevent Herman Caine, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich from having protection during the republican primary. What a waste of taxpayer money.

Guest 07-11-2012 05:30 PM

people running for pres have been getting for a very long time.My buddy got stuck with Jesse Jackson for his detail. He is another winner.

Guest 07-11-2012 05:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 520093)
I haven't been able to find the story you mentioned of the gentleman who said he voted 17 times. While searching, I found this story about PA state rep, Mike Turzai, a GOP lawmaker, saying on camera that the voter ID law PA recently passed is "gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of PA". It would seem, according to Turzai, that the law wasn't passed because of voter fraud but to disenfranchise 750,000 voters.

I would think that the judge that hears this case won't take too kindly to Turzai's remarks as they are played over and over in court.



Mike Turzai, GOP Lawmaker Behind Controversial Voter ID Remark, Was Backed By Education Union



I appreciate your position and agree I have placed myself at a disadvantage and wish i had the foresight to have made a better mental note but never did I expect the reporter to get this guy to admit to voting 17 times for Obama. so if I can cite the authority well then it didn't happen Fair is fair

Guest 07-11-2012 05:54 PM

As I stated earlier, I believe Florida charges $25 for a photo ID card. Therefore, it is a poll tax.

If it were free and readily accessible to everyone, I would have no problem.

Guest 07-11-2012 06:04 PM

There are many counties in Texas that don't have a DMV. They expect people that don't drive to somehow get to another county to get a photo ID. The court should announce its decision on the TX law by next month.

Presidential candidates can decline secret service protection, as Ron Paul has.

Guest 07-11-2012 06:07 PM

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There are many counties in Texas that don't have a DMV. They expect people that don't drive to somehow get to another county to get a photo ID. The court should announce its decision on the TX law by next month.

Presidential candidates can decline secret service protection, as Ron Paul has.

Yea and as a kid I told my teacher "the dog ate my homework" and i never owned a dog

Guest 07-11-2012 06:46 PM

Voting aside.....not even discussing that, and not putting my life in someone elses but it makes sense in this day and age, if the least bit responsible, to have a state photo id. It just makes sense.....the 25 bucks that make people call this a poll tax is stupid...it is offered for IDENTIFICATION and will be an absolute necessity in years to come for sure if it is not now.

You can do very little in this world without such a thing anymore !

Guest 07-11-2012 07:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 520180)
Voting aside.....not even discussing that, and not putting my life in someone elses but it makes sense in this day and age, if the least bit responsible, to have a state photo id. It just makes sense.....the 25 bucks that make people call this a poll tax is stupid...it is offered for IDENTIFICATION and will be an absolute necessity in years to come for sure if it is not now.

You can do very little in this world without such a thing anymore !

I agree with you on this, Bucco. However, you know that someone will gripe about having to spend $25 for ID and will call it a tax - even though it is needed in everyday life. I do not think anyone is so poor they cannot afford $25 every 8 years for an ID card with photo.

Guest 07-11-2012 08:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 520199)
I agree with you on this, Bucco. However, you know that someone will gripe about having to spend $25 for ID and will call it a tax - even though it is needed in everyday life. I do not think anyone is so poor they cannot afford $25 every 8 years for an ID card with photo.



With all due respect, you seem to agree with me but you also seem to agree with those who find it outright offensive to ask for this id at a polling place. Perhaps I am misunderstanding


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