Pig Sty
 

I've seen the garbage, the paper cups the empty beer cans, bottles, cigarette butts and loose papers lying on, near or about the cart paths but, did not see the pigs that want to live in that environment. Perhaps they are the two legged kind. I would hate to think that we active seniors who live in the Villages would want to belong or live in such a place. We have paid a small fortune for our lifestyle, so lets not ruin it.

PICK UP YOUR GARBAGE AND DON'T THROW IT FROM YOUR CAR/CART. LET"S WORK TOGETHER PEOPLE. WE LIVE HERE!!!!!

I really don't see that much garbage. Not enough to qualify for "pig sty" status by a long shot, anyway.

I do see the occasional bit of trash and think it comes from careless landscapers and contractors who are throwing their trash in the back of their pickup trucks and carts and as they're driving the trash sometimes flies out. I know I've seen this happen a number of times.

Hear, Hear - well stated. I also see more & more of the trash strewn along the paths. Sometimes a piece of paper will blow out of a cart or car unnoticed but it should just about be physically impossible for cups, cans & bottles to land there unless put there by someones hands. Come on people you can do better!

I see very little trash anywhere, but I do see workers picking it up from time to time.

All in all, I would say that the multi-modal paths and roadways are mighty trash free. There is a little bit of trash every now and then but most is very clean.

It does seem to be worse, though, in the summer when kids and grandkids are visiting as well as around school holiday time. Not saying they are the entire cause but a major contributor to the trash that gets thrown out of cars and golf carts.

Definitely, The Villages does employ a lot of great people who pick up trash on a regular basis.

I have wondered why there are not trash barrells on the multi-modal paths to put trash into when on the path.

I've never seen trash like that along cart paths...nor in any place in TV. I'm always marveling at how clean this place is, so I would notice littering like that.

To me, the original post sounds like somebody who really does not like TV at all, in any way, shape or form.

Newbies, there is nothing here that even comes close to being a "pig stye". It takes a really unhappy person to want newcomers and home buyers to think they've invested a good chunk of their retirement funds in a "pig stye", when there is no such thing in the entire community of 90,000 people.

Well if you see it ,you could stop and pick it up then place it in a can. I have, several times.

First off...I don't believe for one second that you truly feel that TV is a pig sty, nor do you truly feel that the residents are pigs. Posting here does absolutely no good whatsoever. If you truly saw some trash, then pick it up and get rid of it.

Where exactly was all this garbage? Did you see a villager toss it there? You say "let's work together". I agree let's ALL work together. You saw it, we didn't. You would be a great neighbor by picking it up.

In One spot I've seen trash
 

When we cross 466 in the tunnel and come up near Morse, there is a bridge over swamp land. Off that bridge, there is all kinds of trash including bottles, cans, paper etc. I would pick it up but it is a narrow bridge and the trash is a ways down. Not even sure you can walk on that wetland.
It does disgust me that cart drivers would make that location a dump.

Otherwise, I think the workers keep The Villages very clean.

I remember being a kid when litter became an issue, when people used to throw their trash out the car on the freeways, hard to believe now. There was a movement for car trash bags, remember? I became vigilant with my parents. Maybe that is a new business opportunity, golf cart trash bags. Just made me reminisce.

I have always thought just the opposite ... that The Villages is an incredibly clean place. When I'm in TV I drive around and marvel at the beauty and the cleanliness.

The only time I've noticed garbage is around the places that the Charter School kids frequent, and that's just because they're kids and they need a spanking. :icon_wink: (The Belvedere Libary, the tunnel leading to Southern Trace Plaza, etc.) And that garbage seems to be quickly picked up. We go North for the summer, so perhaps I don't understand the problem. Perhaps it gets dirtier in the summer months?

I was wowed about how clean and manicured TV is. Did note some cigarette butts here and there. I'm thinking about forming the Butt Pickers Club when we arrive.

It must be the heat or you have the wrong place.

I will read back on your old posts and see what else you have had to say.

I read your old posts and you are a very nice and reasonable person so I will look carefully to see if there is any trash. I certainly haven't seen anything to merit the term "pig sty" or even anything but PRISTINE in the four years that I have lived here but a time or two I have seen an occasionaly can or other little thing and sometimes I stop my cart to get it if I won't cause an accident. The cigarette butts are thrown and Posh is right.

The Forum for the last few days has had a lot of negative posts. Do you think we miss the snowbirds? It still isn't as hot as it is in other parts of the country. Maybe we all need a nap?

When I was cranky my mother used to say you need to go and lie down. I think a lot of people on TOTV need to go and lie down.

While I do not agree that "pig sty" meets the strewn trash situation described by whatever, I do agree with whatever that it is becoming a problem.

I have lived here for six years and more than ever I see bottles, cans paper cast along side of cartpaths,in tunnels and along roadways.

Again we have disagreement among our residents and I believe the reason can be identified with one word "expectation".

I personally would expect The Villages to be free of litter because of its residents, its workers and its reputation. So often I wonder who the indivdual was that threw that empty can or bottle out of their cart or their paper cup, and if it was accidental why didn't they go back and pick it up? Yes, it could be the item left the cart unnoticed but given the amount I am seeing it doesn't account for all of iit and frankly I lean toward hardly any of it. Irrespective of noticed or unnoticed he fat remains its lying on the ground and not in a trash bin.

I would like/hate to think that the cause is outsiders who show little respect for our community. But clearly in most situations whomever the culprits, it could also be residents, appear to have little respect for themselves and so why show any toward a community.

Perhaps it is time for the CDD SLCDD to initiate a "litter free" campaign before the situation worsens?

My neighborhood was strewn with garbage while the builders were here, especially those styrofoam containers from the "food trucks", but virtually no garbage once they moved out. Not the residents, but the workers in my opinion.

The only thing I see is cigarettes being thrown from golf carts, which is annoying enough. I smoke a occasional cigar in my cart but I have a metal tube to place the lit cigar into when I'm done. It puts the cigar out and I can light it latter.

gracie you are right the posts do get a little off during the summer, maybe most can't be here year round and its just a venting day on the forum..:posting:

i think there's a little too much: if i didn't see it/it didn't happen/it isn't there; if i didn't do it/it can't be done! this is not stepford! sheesh.

Buggy had a good idea in placing trash cans along the paths. It would be easy if you were driving a cart to just pull alongside and throw out your garbage. Even a water bottle or such if you were walking or biking! How to get that implemented though? Well thought, Buggy!

No, Barefoot, the situation in the Summer is not that different from the Winter one here in the Villages. The Developer would not want an unclean Disneyland for Seniors. They seem to spend a lot of money and time on keeping the Villages quite clean with respect to trash.

I have been here now seven years and have rarely seen litter in the streets or on the gold cart paths. Once in a while, yes. But, very seldom.

Garbage attracts flies..See what happened in Bonifi ...Rest my case

If you give this "good idea" some thought..........Do you know how many miles of cart paths there are? How many trash cans would you need? What will keep the dog poop out of the cans? How much will it cost to empty the cans on a regular basis? Who pays for the upkeep and replacement of these cans?
Simple solution, keep your trash in your cart and put it in your trash can when you get home.

:agree:

I remember our LSV from April of last year when we were here for a week. You could drive from one end of Buena Vista to the other and not see one piece of thrash. That was one of the things I mentioned when I got back to Baltimore, that I never saw any litter. I didn't drive a golf cart much because those loaners they give you at 14 mph would take forever to get anywhere.

The only places I see that need cleaning is on main roadways like CR466 and 466A at the intersections, thrash will accumulate at the corners. It's usually items like broken glass and stuff that a street sweeper could knock out quickly.

Cigarette butts
 

I don't want to become a cranky summer time poster but the thing that burns my buns is the amount of cigarette butts discarded on the golf courses. How irresponsible these smokers are!!!!!!!!!:mad:
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Well, Bogie, I do throw my trash away in a proper container, but apparently this post is about those who do not. I don't live there yet, but when I do, certainly I will continue to take care of my own trash in a proper manner. There are 90 miles of cart paths. If there were a can every 3 miles, that would be approximately 30 cans. Every 5 miles, 18 cans. I don't know what the cost might be, which is precisely why I ASKED about what it would take to implement something like that. Let's please not turn this into yet another dog poop thread! It's regarding trash on the ground! I think it would be most helpful to have extra cans where people could indeed deposit their garbage instead of casting it out somewhere for someone else to take care of.
It is a viable suggestion made by a forum member and one I agree could be within the realm of possibility. You absolutely are entitled to think otherwise, and I respect that!

We do not need trash cans on the cart paths. If you lived here you could see the natural beauty of the cart paths. The addition of trash cans would do nothing but detract from this beauty. Bad idea.

Boogie Shooter: You are spot on. and if I may beside what you have stated the wind/storms visiting us would hit these trash cans and drive the debris all over The Villages. Trash cans also draw critters that crawl and fly. and finally I wager you will have many amatuer basketball players that will make a throw miss and leave the debris where it lie next to the trash can.

IMO this whole thing is a non-issue. With the exception of cig butts, I've rarely seen any litter anywhere in TV, including the cart paths. I'm not saying that littering never happens, but compared to the size and population of TV, it's really minuscule. Trash cans on the cart paths would be an eyesore and a waste of money. No one I know rides around with a bunch of trash in their carts looking for a place to deposit it. The primary deposits in cans on the paths would be dog poop. Then there would be flies and stench...and the inevitable complaining about that. And anyone who is willing to throw trash onto the cart paths are going to do so whether there are trash cans every few miles or not.

You are so right!

TV certainly isn't a pig sty but we all should be very careful about "stuff" that blows out of our golf carts. It's true that a lot of the debris comes from the various contractors on our streets but candy wrappers, misc. paper items, styrofoam cups, cigarette boxes and particulary cigarette butts come from Villagers. I walk miles every week and always pick up several plastic grocery bags full during the week. Why do people toss their cig butts out of their carts? It's so disrespectful! Every able bodied person who walks should always carry their own bag and help keep our place spotless. I don't pick up cig butts but most everything else. How can you walk by and just ignore it? None of us should think we're above helping in this effort.

where do you live, certainly not in the villages? I have never seen any amount of trash in the villages on the cart paths and if I do and do not pick it up myself is usually gone but the time I come back again. Again where you live?

You sure got her excited:22yikes:

:agree: The first time I saw TV was in 2010. When my friend and I took the trolley tour and walked around TV, we both marveled at the cleanliness and the beautiful landscaping. TV is still a thing of beauty at least to this wannabee.

Butt Police
 

You have given me an idea! (watch out)
OK, here goes......Everyone in TV must give a DNA sample. Anyone finding butts or trash turns it in to the Butt Police. They do a match and send a bill to the guilty culprit for the cost of matching plus $100. fine per butt or piece of ???. The finder gets $25. plus a box of Bill's famous popcorn and the rest of the fine goes into the amenity pool for additional amentities. :laugh:

To CMANN, I live in Duval and routinely walk Odell out to Morse, St. Charles all the way around to Bailey and back to Odell, Buena Vista up to Lake Miona, Buena Vista down to 466a to Morris and Odell to Canal up to Bailey and over to Morse and back round to Odell.

Good for you.

Hey, now you're talking!!! :BigApplause:

Litter
 

While I don't agree that the Villages are a "pig sty" I too think there is a lot of trash around. On Morris into Sanibel and all along Pinellas there are plastic cups, bottles, paper, McDonald bags, construction materials etc. I think that this area is still a constrution zone so that may account for the amount of trash. I have no problem picking up the trash, and I do, I just wish it wasn't there.