Paul Ryan -- Sarah Palin Redux?
 

The choice of Paul Ryan is a sign of weakness not of strength. With the election less than 90 days away and the popular vote now trending away from him, Romney apparently now feels the need to select a highly speculative vice-presidential nominee who, yes, can enrapture his often-doubtful conservative base and consolidate his party's 35-40% turnout, but what more?

Stephen Schlesinger: Raul Ryan -- Sarah Palin Redux?

I agree with this. Paul Ryan was a poor choice by Mitt Romney. The positives-- The names are alliterative and Ryan has a very attractive family. I actually liked Sarah Palin a lot more as a person than Paul Ryan too. The negatives-- Paul Ryan used to hand out books by Ayn Ryan and extolled her philosophy. Something about loving the philosophy of Ayn Rand really turns my stomach. Especially in a politician. To me, Ayn Rand stands for elitism and turning your back on people who need help to get by in this world. She smacks of Social Darwinism and the survival of the fittest in social circles. This is OK if you are in some cuthroat business but it is no way to run a country or state or city.

I have to disagree with this one. I don't think Sarah could come close to the ability of Ryan.

I meant that Sarah Palin was a better pick for John McCain than Ryan's is for Romney. Mainly because of how easy the politicos will have with attacking Ryan on his love of Ayn Rand's philosophy. Ryan has tried to distance himself from his former love of this writer's work over the past few months because even Ryan sees what a problem this may become.

I agree that Palin had a lot of problems. Palin did often talk without thinking about what she was saying and was often very ignorant about politics in many areas.

This is all ridiculous. Romney was running, like it or not you lefties, on Ryan's budget plan. Now he's chosen the author of this plan, who is also the head of the Congressional Budget Commitee, to be his running mate. This is a serious choice and one that will make the budgetary differences between the failed Obama Administration as opposed to Romney's platform explode in stark contrasts.

The leftists will have to rely on their compliant lamestream mainstream media to bury this issue with their usual "take no prisoners" approach to reporting on conservatives.

You guys are not going to be able to pull a "Sarah Palin" on articulate Paul Ryan, in any event.

Obama doesn't have a convincing or commanding lead anywhere. All Romney and Ryan have to do is convince the "independents" of their vision and everything could change in very short order.

This is just the beginning and you unrepentant leftists think the game over?

A rude awakening is coming for you guys.

It will be a very hard sell of Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan to anyone but the very hardcore Republican base. Sarah Palin a least when she was chosen by the McCain campaign was a Governor with a good reputation in her state. Paul Ryan comes with a lot of baggage that will be very difficult to sell to people outside the fanatical Republicans who seem to support anyone who is part of the Republican political machine.

Will the Romney Ryan duo take on even their own party to battle the deficit problem? If they would fight both parties to bring down the deficit, they would have my vote. I will watch closely in the next few weeks.

I have not heard any negative comments from the Republican side of the fence with respect to Paul Ryan's pick.

I think you're totally "out there" with this thinking. It's only the entitled liberal who's going to view Ryan as you've suggested. The American people know the country's economy is crashing and burning and Obama has only empty words and tired talking points to offer.

Romney and Ryan are proposing real time solutions; emphasizing how the proven resource of American exceptionalism, translated into hard work and shared sacrifice will vault this country out of Obama's depression and back on the road to solvency.

All the left has is whining and finger pointing and violent imagery.

I think I know which strategy is going to inspire the votes of the independents.

what a mistake.

It's only liberals who think so.

it is nothing more than the party line...no credence what so ever....just the faithful remaining true to their guy which is fine.

I would like to hear more from the opposition about why Ryan is such a bad pick instead of the really wacked out comparison to to Palin. How about some specific reasons why you think he is a bad choice.

What we know is he will in fact do battle with his own party as well as the other side of the aisle to get a budget.
This is the very thing the Obama administration is most fearful of....Romney and Ryan might just do what they say they are going to do.

So far just like on this forum all we get is the distractions.

Another couple of questions for the Obama supporters; is it OK with you that there is no budget (just a simple yes or no and not a bunch of excuses or red herrings). And in the unlikely event an answer is put forth...the second part is if yes, why is it OK?

btk

NO.

Ryan - another Con who has NEVER had a job. Before he was elected to Congress Ryan worked in his family business, Ryan Inc. Central, a construction firm his great-granddady founded. It's always the silver-spooners with the biggest family handouts who resent government aid the most. Ryan is the ultimate Washington insider - you know, the ones Willard keeps criticizing.

Ryan voted for steep educational cuts involving Head Start and college aid.

Ryan voted for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.

Ryan is against against gay adoptions

Ryan is against a hate-crimes law

Ryan is against abortion

Ryan is against gun control.

Ryan is against raising the minimum wage.

Ryan is against the Dodd-Frank financial reform bill.

Ryan voted against the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which helps women fight for equal pay for equal work.

Ryan was a faithful rubber-stamp of the reckless economic policies of the Bush administration.

Wasn't it Newt who referred to Ryan's (now Romney's) budget as "right-wing social engineering"?

The Ostroy Report: <a name="81312">How Ryan Just Sank Romney's Campaign</a>

According to the New York Times "Ryan shunned the 'Grand Bargain' to end the debt-ceiling standoff because, in part, he feared a it would be a boost for President Obama in 2012.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/13/us...ryan.html?_r=1

That pretty much sums up the Ryan/Romney ticket. That's right, the conservative Repubs have forced Romney to select their man Ryan and Romney is now playing second fiddle. Romney will do anything to become President. :ohdear:

But he is such a cute little fella.

Ryan according to a New Zealander.
 

Romney-Ryan & Rand | Scoop News

This paints a very humorous picture.

Palin looks like a moderate next to this guy .......

I have to control myself from:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: when I hear some of you talk about what jobs Ryan did not have before being elected to congress. Let's just say, to be polite (I am working at it) that he certainly is no worse in that regard than Obama was. Nobody could ever state what "real job" Obama ever has.

And now for my usual...instead of the anticipated now let's spend our time ripping him to shreds, how about you Obama supporters tell us what Obama/Biden are going to do about the some of the issues Romney/Ryan are committing? Put your character assassination guns away and let's hear what your party is committing to do to fix America.

btk

Ryan and Willard are the challengers (and traling badly) - why don't they tell us why they are an acceptable alternative?

They can begin with the basic stuff - like telling us why they refuse to release previous tax returns.

Ryan is probably a good husband ,father,and American. I just do not agree what he stands for and what he believes is good for America. He wants to slash taxes for the rich and gut the government. He doesn't want to fix medicare he wants to kill it. He voted for the Bush tax cuts for the rich,war with Iraq,and the Bush medicare prescription drug plan. He proposes cutting just about every program except defense and that bothers me.

Agree 100% that Ryan is probably a good husband ,father,and American.

That bothers me too. He does look like a very good and decent family man as does Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama.

the romney/ryan ticket is apparently in favor of the acceptable alternative to falied fiscal policy, and bigger government for starters.

what is "the acceptable alternative"?

..... this is gonna be good .........

and your point is?

They have no point, most of them.....the presses just started rolling today with all the anti Ryan stuff and they rush to get it out. You do not have to understand what you are saying, you just have to know how to post it.

Most cannot ever answer a question on any details.....they just do what they have been told is right...details to follow I suppose !

Ever notice when you ask WHY or EXPLAIN,they never come back !

The point is- Ryan is far from the mainstream of American thought. Far, far right.

If you said...IN MY OPINION meaning Yours would go with it,but trust me you do not speak for the mainstream of america

And if you do, that is a link for credibility I really want to see

[QUOTE=Guest;539469]I have to control myself from:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: when I hear some of you talk about what jobs Ryan did not have before being elected to congress. Let's just say, to be polite (I am working at it) that he certainly is no worse in that regard than Obama was. Nobody could ever state what "real job" Obama ever has."
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From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/oba...law-professor/

[quote=buggyone;539822]First your cut and paste job is not credited and that is required per US law.

Second, he served in the ILL senate from 1997 until 2004 thus whereever you copied it from is really bogus !

PS....see you modified it to add the credit but it is still inaccurate !

OK so he won elections in politics and intellectual positions...still waiting to hear about Obama's real job...

btk

[quote=Bucco;539829] Thank you for the reminder to cite the work. I put it in the post at your suggestion. If you re-read the statement from the University of Chicago, it clears up your second point. I will re-copy it for you and it has the same citation as above.

"Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching."

[quote=buggyone;539837]I believe his career in the senate in ILL is important and should be cited as often as possible

You do not call a Professor of Law at University of Chicago from 1992 until 2004 a real job? What did you do for those same 12 years?

He was a ILL senator and if you read his autobiography or anything about him at all, you would find he was an extremely active politician in those years.

Very busy man and extremely competent as well.

If you do not believe FactCheck.org, that is up to you.

Never been to that site and do not intend to visit ! I prefer my own research....did they mention all his ABSENT votes ? Did they mention how and where he launched his campaign ?

What rubbish you poste !!!!!!!!!! Why waste bandwidth?

Obama is President of the United States - he signed ACA into law. It is on his watch that we got Bin Laden. He has already accomplished more in 3.5 years that the guy before him did in eight. Signing ACA and getting Bin Laden already makes him a far more successful POTUS that the guy before him.

He is running for reelection and every poll (including Fox) shows he has a commanding lead.

There is nothing in the Constitution that says he must have a previous job that meets Bucco's satisfaction.