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lovesports 08-29-2012 10:02 PM

Armed robbery in the Villages at Dunkin' Donuts
 
An armed man robbed the Dunkin' Donuts store at 3460 Wedgewood Lane in The Villages on Tues. night.

Sumter Co Sheriff's deputies said an employee was throwing trash into the dumpster shortly after 10pm when a suspect wearing a bandana over his nose and mouth approached. The suspect was carrying a silver handgun. He ordered the employee to "take me to the money".

The two entered the store and into the office where an undisclosed amount of cash was removed from the drawer.

The suspect was last seen running to the northwest.

I heard this from my friends and then looked it up on line. Wasn't in The Sun today, might be tomorrow.

zcaveman 08-30-2012 05:37 AM

It is in today's Daily Sun.

Figmo Bohica 08-30-2012 07:16 AM

After reading the article and the description of the alleged robber, it would not be a huge surprise if the local law enforcement is not taking a look at the employee. The description was just to genaric.

Just my 2 cents worth.

asianthree 08-30-2012 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 549192)
After reading the article and the description of the alleged robber, it would not be a huge surprise if the local law enforcement is not taking a look at the employee. The description was just to genaric.

Just my 2 cents worth.

hummmmmmmmmm you might have a point,hope there is film

gomoho 08-30-2012 08:09 AM

Wait a minute - how generic is someone wearing a black shirt with a rhinestone cross on the back?

caroline 08-30-2012 08:19 AM

It's in the Sun today

Figmo Bohica 08-30-2012 08:22 AM

All the clothing was described as dark, might want to add some little thing, like the rhinestone cross to make it sound better. Silver gun, really, sounds just right of a description to give law enforcement to waste time looking for. I think I would still be giving the employee a good looking over. Robbery went to smooth, could have also been a set up robbery. Just sounded fishy, but then I have only been doing this stuff for some 40 years.

lovesports 08-30-2012 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by caroline (Post 549232)
It's in the Sun today

Yes. I wrote my post on Wed.

Taltarzac725 08-30-2012 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 549237)
All the clothing was described as dark, might want to add some little thing, like the rhinestone cross to make it sound better. Silver gun, really, sounds just right of a description to give law enforcement to waste time looking for. I think I would still be giving the employee a good looking over. Robbery went to smooth, could have also been a set up robbery. Just sounded fishy, but then I have only been doing this stuff for some 40 years.

I would expect that checking out the victim's story would be a matter of routine in police investigations.

I remember when my then high school teacher's daughter Michelle Mitchell was murdered on my birthday of 2-24 in 1976 near the University of Nevada, Reno campus.

The cops investigated all the high school students at my high school that had any connection with Michelle Mitchell. And they checked out if Michelle Mitchell had been involved in any behaviors that might lead to her murder like hooking, drug dealing, domestic fights, etc.

They kind of put the victims (Michelle Mitchell, Michelle's family, friends, the students of two Reno high schools, etc.) on trial before they finaly got a break in the Michelle Mitchell murder in 1979.

Figmo Bohica 08-30-2012 09:09 AM

Also no mention of surveillance cameras. Always say if it walks like a duck, quakes like a duck, it just might be a duck.

It is standard procedure to vet all the family and friends in a case like you wrote about. The quicker that is done the quicker you can get on with the investigation about who really done it.

paulandjean 08-30-2012 12:49 PM

I would check out down 301,seems that would be the way he is headed. Inside job for sure.

a6w7m 08-30-2012 01:22 PM

This was an armed robbery, and not something an "employee" made up. The DO have security camera and the police have been looking at them since Tuesday night. I do believe if you were leaving work & turned the light off and walked outside to take out the trash and something like that happened to you, your description would also be "a man wearing dark clothing!"

FYI, the victim was my fiance.

jblum315 08-30-2012 01:46 PM

I probanly would have lost the power of speech!

lovesports 08-30-2012 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a6w7m (Post 549325)
This was an armed robbery, and not something an "employee" made up. The DO have security camera and the police have been looking at them since Tuesday night. I do believe if you were leaving work & turned the light off and walked outside to take out the trash and something like that happened to you, your description would also be "a man wearing dark clothing!"

FYI, the victim was my fiance.

Let me apologize for other's posts. I have followed this board since 2007 and it seems to be a forum of three types a people. One group thinks everything is perfect in the Villages. Next group think they know it all. The third group is great people who try to answer newbies questions.
So don't take what anybody says on here too seriously. I'm so glad your fiance wasn't hurt but I'm sure it will have lingering negative effects. I also hope they get the guy. It's scary. Plus if they catch the guy, your fiance will probably have to be a witness against him.
So please don't be upset by what anybody says on this forum.

Posh 08 08-30-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 549341)
I probanly would have lost the power of speech!

I would have lost more than my speech. :o

Taltarzac725 08-30-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lovesports (Post 549374)
Let me apologize for other's posts. I have followed this board since 2007 and it seems to be a forum of three types a people. One group thinks everything is perfect in the Villages. Next group think they know it all. The third group is great people who try to answer newbies questions.
So don't take what anybody says on here too seriously. I'm so glad your fiance wasn't hurt but I'm sure it will have lingering negative effects. I also hope they get the guy. It's scary. Plus if they catch the guy, your fiance will probably have to be a witness against him.
So please don't be upset by what anybody says on this forum.

Hope you fiancee is doing well. I know that I did not report several crimes in MN and NV because of how I expected to be treated by police and others. The victims often have to go through more than some defendants.

gerryann 08-30-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 549392)
Hope you fiancee is doing well. I know that I did not report several crimes in MN and NV because of how I expected to be treated by police and others. The victims often have to go through more than some defendants.

I hope he is doing ok. Unfortunately, he will be questioned, because that's just what the police have to do. Even in murders, the family and the ones who report it are often the first accused. Maybe the poster who assumes that your fiancé is behind it all, comes from a background that concludes guilt immedietly.

USSGompers 08-30-2012 03:55 PM

I am so sorry to hear about the robbery. I got robbed in Orlando when I was the asst mgr at Pizza Hut. Two guys came running in at 10PM on a Sunday night. One put a gun to my head and demanded I open the register. I was too slow (from fear) so he cocked it back.

Then they proceeded to rob the customers. When my server was asked for his money, he acted like an ASS and threw all the $$ from his tips all over the floor. One guy got on the floor while his partner held the gun to my head to pick up all the $$.

My 19 yr old cook/dishwasher was deaf from birth and came around to corner carrying glasses (which he dropped).

They finally left and after I called the police, I called my regional mgr, who did a cash count and I was written up for having had $105 in the register, $5 more than allowed.

I still remember that night in 1994 like yesterday. You never get over it. :swear:

gomoho 08-30-2012 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovesports (Post 549374)
Let me apologize for other's posts. I have followed this board since 2007 and it seems to be a forum of three types a people. One group thinks everything is perfect in the Villages. Next group think they know it all. The third group is great people who try to answer newbies questions.
So don't take what anybody says on here too seriously. I'm so glad your fiance wasn't hurt but I'm sure it will have lingering negative effects. I also hope they get the guy. It's scary. Plus if they catch the guy, your fiance will probably have to be a witness against him.
So please don't be upset by what anybody says on this forum.

Wow - who died and made you God? Why is everyone so judgemental of everyone else on here - people are entitled to their own thoughts and opinions without someone degrading them for those thought and opinions. Just saying.:crap2:

lovesports 08-30-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 549470)
Wow - who died and made you God? Why is everyone so judgemental of everyone else on here - people are entitled to their own thoughts and opinions without someone degrading them for those thought and opinions. Just saying.:crap2:

LOL :bowdown:
God here. gomoho everything you said to me applies to YOUR post to me. Just saying.
I feel sorry for any victim who people start saying is in on the crime. If you read the posts following, you see others agree with me. I also feel very sorry for the Pizza Hut victim and I think he made a really good case for what victims go through. It has changed his whole life and 20 years later it still haunts him.
When the victim's fiance posted and was clearly upset with the comments, I was trying to give her support. It would be very hurtful to hear your fiance accused ( with all he had and has to already go through), to hear people think he did it.
You don't have to agree with me but you can keep calling me God. LOL :pray:

gerryann 08-30-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lovesports (Post 549497)
LOL :bowdown:
God here. gomoho everything you said to me applies to YOUR post to me. Just saying.
I feel sorry for any victim who people start saying is in on the crime. If you read the posts following, you see others agree with me. I also feel very sorry for the Pizza Hut victim and I think he made a really good case for what victims go through. It has changed his whole life and 20 years later it still haunts him.
When the victim's fiance posted and was clearly upset with the comments, I was trying to give her support. It would be very hurtful to hear your fiance accused ( with all he had and has to already go through), to hear people think he did it.
You don't have to agree with me but you can keep calling me God. LOL :pray:

Good post....umm God ;)

lovesports 08-30-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USSGompers (Post 549410)
I am so sorry to hear about the robbery. I got robbed in Orlando when I was the asst mgr at Pizza Hut. Two guys came running in at 10PM on a Sunday night. One put a gun to my head and demanded I open the register. I was too slow (from fear) so he cocked it back.

Then they proceeded to rob the customers. When my server was asked for his money, he acted like an ASS and threw all the $$ from his tips all over the floor. One guy got on the floor while his partner held the gun to my head to pick up all the $$.

My 19 yr old cook/dishwasher was deaf from birth and came around to corner carrying glasses (which he dropped).

They finally left and after I called the police, I called my regional mgr, who did a cash count and I was written up for having had $105 in the register, $5 more than allowed.

I still remember that night in 1994 like yesterday. You never get over it. :swear:

Thanks for sharing. It gives me a little better understanding of what it means to be a victim. But so sorry it happened to you.

USSGompers 08-30-2012 10:53 PM

Thank you Lovesports. By the way, I am a woman. Not that has anything to do with the situation- just sayin'.

I have a concealed weapons license now. I don't want to be a victim again.:)

redwitch 08-31-2012 05:38 AM

Being a victim stinks. It stays with you forever and, yes, the police do assume you are somehow at fault at least in the beginning. So, you're traumatized, frightened, afraid to take out the trash and then find out police are checking you and your friends out. Yes, they have their reasons but that doesn't make it any easier when it's you and you're innocent.

So, someone has a bandana over their face. That means you may get the eye color, depending on whether a baseball cap was worn and how low it was and if you were brave enough to look at something other than the gun. You may get skin color, again depending on how much skin is actually showing. You will be able to see clothing worn. A black t-shirt with a rhinestone cross may actually be all you notice. Gee, the thief carried a Saturday-night special? I know, silver-plated (think bling, not bang) pistols are only used on TV ... NOT! A few of us might be able to identify a gun, but I bet not many. We probably will notice that it was a handgun, the color and, regardless of caliber, call it "big."

In this case, it may or may not be an inside job -- possibly the employee robbed, possibly someone else who worked there. It could just as easily be someone who knew no one at DD but decided it was a good place to rob. Hopefully, law enforcement officers will find the robber and clear up the entire mess. I sincerely hope the employee robbed is innocent and that he finds a way to get over the trauma of this event as quickly as possible.

paulandjean 08-31-2012 06:12 AM

Still think this one is strange.The person says she is engaged to the person who was robbed. Very first posting? Why? Why come on board now?

graciegirl 08-31-2012 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 549470)
Wow - who died and made you God? Why is everyone so judgemental of everyone else on here - people are entitled to their own thoughts and opinions without someone degrading them for those thought and opinions. Just saying.:crap2:

On this discussion, I don't have an opinion. Gosh, don't you all faint. But as usual there are very strong opinions, and that doesn't mean it is wrong to respectfully disagree. That to me, isn't being judgmental, it is just looking at something from a different perspective and with the life experiences that make all of us different.

I get all het up when someone says the other is being judgmental. We ALL are being judgmental. We all have different ways of judging stuff.

And only God, (the other ONE) knows for sure. ;)

philnpat 08-31-2012 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 549561)
Still think this one is strange.The person says she is engaged to the person who was robbed. Very first posting? Why? Why come on board now?

Do you think it's possible that someone who knew the fiance informed her of the posting...and that she never heard of TOTV...and that she signed on to refute what was said. Hence the reason for her 1st posting? Just maybe?

USSGompers 08-31-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by philnpat (Post 549580)
Do you think it's possible that someone who knew the fiance informed her of the posting...and that she never heard of TOTV...and that she signed on to refute what was said. Hence the reason for her 1st posting? Just maybe?

Yes, I totally believe that is what happened. She was sick of her boyfriend being looked at like it was all his idea, when instead he was the victim here.

She just wanted everyone to know the truth. probably someone who works at Dunkin Donuts (a Villager) told her about the site.

Taltarzac725 08-31-2012 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philnpat (Post 549580)
Do you think it's possible that someone who knew the fiance informed her of the posting...and that she never heard of TOTV...and that she signed on to refute what was said. Hence the reason for her 1st posting? Just maybe?

That sounds likely. Many people I have talked to here in the Villages have never heard about TOTV before I mention it about something or other. Last time I felt I should mention it was with the picture of the FL black bear near Winifred because I never saw this covered in the Villages Daily Sun.

I remember when I was managing (sort of as I was really babysitting teen age girls who were daughters of girlfriends of the business owner) a concession stand at a softball field in a public park in Reno, NV. A white man came up to the stand and opened up his shirt so that I could see a pistol. He bought a snow cone or something like that and then asked for his change. I could not tell if he intended me to see the gun and wanted more change or he was just someone with a gun at the park. I just gave him his exact change. Kind of stupid I know but he never said anything to imply he was robbing the concession stand.

I gave him his change and then notified authorities about seeing the pistol.

My boss had been chatting with a uniformed cop right behind the concession stand about something or other; so, I did not have far to go to notify them. I knew the cop was there as could anyone else approaching the concession stand from most directions. I had thought the guy with the pistol tucked in his pants was a detective but there were no other cops at the softball diamond that night. The cop called the thing in right after I mentioned it to see if there was another law enforcement officer at the park.

Cops often stopped by the park which was near downtown Reno to watch the softball games which were from teams that once in a while had cops on them.

EdV 08-31-2012 08:21 AM

Figmo’s suspicions may seem insensitive, but think about this:

When I was a teenager I got a job in a popular restaurant right on the main street of my home town. I started out as a dishwasher but was getting trained as a waiter by the assistant manager. A week or so into the job, the owner came into the back room and asked me why I took the money. With a surprised look I replied “what money?”. Apparently the place had been robbed earlier. He stared at me for a long time and then walked out.

I don’t remember all the details, but within a few hours, the detectives on the case had the thief. It was the assistant manager who was supposed to be training me and they had his confession as was later reported in the papers.

The whole thing weirded me out and a couple of weeks later I quit the job.

USSGompers 08-31-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 549596)
Figmo’s suspicions may seem insensitive, but think about this:

When I was a teenager I got a job in a popular restaurant right on the main street of my home town. I started out as a dishwasher but was getting trained as a waiter by the assistant manager. A week or so into the job, the owner came into the back room and asked me why I took the money. With a surprised look I replied “what money?”. Apparently the place had been robbed earlier. He stared at me for a long time and then walked out.

I don’t remember all the details, but within a few hours, the detectives on the case had the thief. It was the assistant manager who was supposed to be training me and they had his confession as was later reported in the papers.

The whole thing weirded me out and a couple of weeks later I quit the job.

Well, well, well. When I was 19, I worked at the Howard Johnson's restaurant off of I-80 in PA. I worked the midnight shift as cashier. In the morning the asst mgr would come in and take my cash drawer to the back room and lock the door. A while later the mgr, Mr. A. would inform me that I was $20 short AGAIN. This went on for a week or so. I was so careful at night with the $$ but in the morning I was short $20 (not $10.99-always $20).

I quit because of the accusations and found out later on, that of course it was the asst doing it. I should have known, a cashier always counts their own drawer. I was young and naive but I would think that Mr. A., the mgr could have smelled a rat and it wasn't me!!

eremite06 08-31-2012 10:00 AM

At 16 I worked at HO-JOs as a dishwasher. It was on the turnpike near Allentown, Pa. I didn't handle money but very hot dishes. Had to dunk my hands into iced water before unloading the dishes. They didn't provide gloves. Ahhh, memories......!

2BNTV 08-31-2012 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a6w7m (Post 549325)
This was an armed robbery, and not something an "employee" made up. The DO have security camera and the police have been looking at them since Tuesday night. I do believe if you were leaving work & turned the light off and walked outside to take out the trash and something like that happened to you, your description would also be "a man wearing dark clothing!"

FYI, the victim was my fiance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by USSGompers (Post 549410)
I am so sorry to hear about the robbery. I got robbed in Orlando when I was the asst mgr at Pizza Hut. Two guys came running in at 10PM on a Sunday night. One put a gun to my head and demanded I open the register. I was too slow (from fear) so he cocked it back.

Then they proceeded to rob the customers. When my server was asked for his money, he acted like an ASS and threw all the $$ from his tips all over the floor. One guy got on the floor while his partner held the gun to my head to pick up all the $$.

My 19 yr old cook/dishwasher was deaf from birth and came around to corner carrying glasses (which he dropped).

They finally left and after I called the police, I called my regional mgr, who did a cash count and I was written up for having had $105 in the register, $5 more than allowed.

I still remember that night in 1994 like yesterday. You never get over it. :swear:

I am so sorry this happened to you both.

USSGompers 08-31-2012 02:08 PM

Thank you so much. life is good now!!

asianthree 08-31-2012 06:29 PM

gosh you guy had yuck jobs...we owned our own business and made our kids work for free from the time they could walk. Yep had a break in and the guys that did it took the most expensive one of a kind hockey stick and pair of skates and was using them on the ice, the cops came to get them...it was the perfect storm while they told the cops it was their skates, when the cop turned them over, they were signed : to tommy ______ from bob probert stay in the zone, so was the stick... It was a good day

graciegirl 08-31-2012 06:52 PM

A woman in handcuffs at Walmart just now.
 
Just ran to Walmart tonight for a few things and as we were leaving there was a woman with handcuffs on by the front door surrounded by three police officers.

It was the first time in my life I have ever seen anyone in person in handcuffs.

It really affected me. She was very nicely dressed and young. How could you do anything to give up your freedom?

Gracie...Old dog who doesn't want to learn any new tricks.

asianthree 08-31-2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 549829)
Just ran to Walmart tonight for a few things and as we were leaving there was a woman with handcuffs on by the front door surrounded by three police officers.

It was the first time in my life I have ever seen anyone in person in handcuffs.

It really affected me. She was very nicely dressed and young. How could you do anything to give up your freedom?

Gracie...Old dog who doesn't want to learn any new tricks.

i am only hoping she needed food and got caught, not clothes, or something stupid

buggyone 08-31-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 549832)
i am only hoping she needed food and got caught, not clothes, or something stupid

There are plenty of food pantries around if she needed foor that will give food to anyone who is needy.

We don't know why she was being arrested. Could be for shoplifting, passing bad check or fraudelent credit card, outstanding warrant, assault, disorderly conduct, or even being drunk in public.

Don't assume shoplifting automatically.

Happinow 08-31-2012 09:34 PM

Grandpa get your panties!!!
 
When I was much younger, I worked in a junior retail store. We were always taught to keep an eye out for shop lifters, so I did. The people you least expect to shop lift are the ones that do. One day, an older gentleman, (about 70) was walking around the store. I thought "what was he doing in a junior store"? Well, he was wandering around the panty bin and sure enough he grabbed a handful, put them in a little paper bag and out he went. I saw it happen, so I gave chase and saw him drop the panties in a trash bin. He must have known I was following him and saw him do it. I can't remember if he got caught by the police or not but I was dumbfounded to see someone of that age shop lifting.....and panties at that!! I did wrong by following him through the mall and would never do that now.

Dancing Queen 08-31-2012 09:40 PM

When I was 20 I worked at a Dunkin Donuts in my home town on 3rd shift. After the baker left I was left by myself all night, to clean up his mess, the previous shifts mess, and wait on the earliest customers, who often had green teeth. It was a frighting shift to work. (Oh and I never got a break, I have asked over the years at other locations and found the same working conditions.)
As a young woman I would not have known what kind of gun some one had, just that they pointed it at me, and I feared for my life, so it is unfair to assume the woman left by herself to run the place was anything other than shaking, and terrified. I certainly would have been. I only worked there a couple months, as I was tired of feeling used by the other employees left to finish their work and was scared every time the baker left.


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