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2BNTV 09-17-2012 11:02 AM

Replacement Refs
 
I don't know about anyone else but I am sick of the replacement refs that don't call holding on the defensive backs. I've seen this on several plays during the Giants game as I'm sure it's happening around the NFL.

It's time for the stupid and greedy owners to realize their product is being damaged and sullied by refs that haven't done an extremely bad job as they don't call holding in college... at least that is the explanation from broadcasters. It's time to bring back the regular refs before any players get hurt by things the refs aren't calling. The owners are acting like they are throwing nickels around like manhole covers. It such a small cost. They talk about being concerned about player safety and the integrity of the game but it's stupid for this to continue and make a mockery of the game as there were several games that were affected last week.

Is anyone else disturbed by the amount of holding that isn't being called?

Whewwwwwwwww......... I feel better now.

Bosoxfan 09-17-2012 11:58 AM

What about the "phantom" holding call the cost the Patriots a win .Gronkowski made a clean block!

bluedog103 09-17-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 556854)
What about the "phantom" holding call the cost the Patriots a win .Gronkowski made a clean block!

No problem with that one!

blue72 09-17-2012 05:41 PM

WELL SAID BLUEDOG,
WELL SAID !!!!!!!!!!!!:clap2:

aln 09-17-2012 07:21 PM

TRRBLE......The worst call I saw was on the Lions QB. He was DOWN. Got up and went 6 yards further back before the whistle blew. Then in order to get back the 6 yards THE LIONS had to throw the red flag using up a contested call ON THEMSELVES.

You're right 2BNTV. . . the game is LOOSING INTEGRITY!

eweissenbach 09-17-2012 08:49 PM

Anyone watching the MNF debacle? This is the worst I have seen! The NFL is jeapardizing a multi-billion dollar enterprise, not to mention endangering the Multi-million dollar athletes for comparative peanuts.

tkret 09-17-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 557022)
Anyone watching the MNF debacle? This is the worst I have seen! The NFL is jeapardizing a multi-billion dollar enterprise, not to mention endangering the Multi-million dollar athletes for comparative peanuts.

yes, I'm watching this joke. Ready to give up and turn something else on. These refs are throwing flags all over the place. So many calls have been reversed. It's just not entertaining.

2 Oldcrabs 09-18-2012 05:06 AM

I agree
 
[QUOTE=2BNTV;556836]I don't know about anyone else but I am sick of the replacement refs that don't call holding on the defensive backs. I've seen this on several plays during the Giants game as I'm sure it's happening around the NFL.

It's time for the stupid and greedy owners to realize their product is being damaged and sullied by refs that haven't done an extremely bad job as they don't call holding in college... at least that is the explanation from broadcasters. It's time to bring back the regular refs before any players get hurt by things the refs aren't calling. The owners are acting like they are throwing nickels around like manhole covers. It such a small cost. They talk about being concerned about player safety and the integrity of the game but it's stupid for this to continue and make a mockery of the game as there were several games that were affected last week.

:agree:

paulandjean 09-18-2012 06:27 AM

I have no problem with the refs. They are replacements,will not be around for long.Takes years in the NFL to get it right.Game here is so much faster than the college game. Seen many good calls also with the replacements.Relax the game is being played. Know many college and pro refs,they have to get use to the speed.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-18-2012 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 556854)
What about the "phantom" holding call the cost the Patriots a win .Gronkowski made a clean block!

That was my first thought when I saw the title of the post. It's a shame that's not reviewable, especially with a bunch of amateur referees.

paulandjean 09-18-2012 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 557073)
That was my first thought when I saw the title of the post. It's a shame that's not reviewable, especially with a bunch of amateur referees.

I do not think of them as amateurs, They are professional and in the NFL.They have spent years and years learning to call a fair game.

jmvalcq 09-18-2012 08:41 AM

replacement refs
 
One would think that in a country of well over 300 million pleople we could find enough great refs that would want to work for 160-180k, plus expenses, for the year, just like one would think that we could find 32 great quaterbacks.

2BNTV 09-18-2012 08:50 AM

Embarrassing on MNF
 
Replacement refs article.

Replacement refs in over their heads on ‘Monday Night Football’ | Audibles

tkret 09-18-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 557100)

Thanks for the link. And, it was NOT only last night. Anyone who thinks these replacements are doing a good job is either very charitable or doesn't watch the games. 3 and a half hour game??? Hey Refs, thanks for controlling the game. NOT! Well, at least the regulars will be back by Week 4 unless Roger Goodell wants to kill his golden goose.

Bosoxfan 09-18-2012 11:58 AM

:censored::sing:
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluedog103 (Post 556944)
No problem with that one!


2BNTV 09-18-2012 12:06 PM

Eric Mangini said this morning on Sportscenter that as long as revenue is not affected adversely, the strike will continue as the owners see this as the replacement refs will get better. I hope the owners come to their senses as we are talking about a small amount of money.

As usual, the fans suffer from seeing their teams getting the short end of the stick in this matter.

In a perfect world, the fans would not go to the games as a protest and cost the owners money.

tkret 09-18-2012 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 557178)
Eric Mangini said this morning on Sportscenter that as long as revenue is not affected adversely, the strike will continue as the owners see this as the replacement refs will get better.

Perhaps, 2BNTV, but I suspect that if week 3 continues to be an embarrassment for the League, week 4 will see the return of the skilled employees.

aln 09-18-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 557178)
Eric Mangini said this morning on Sportscenter that as long as revenue is not affected adversely, the strike will continue as the owners see this as the replacement refs will get better. I hope the owners come to their senses as we are talking about a small amount of money.

As usual, the fans suffer from seeing their teams getting the short end of the stick in this matter.

In a perfect world, the fans would not go to the games as a protest and cost the owners money.

Eric Mangini should be on Obama's team. How could revenue get affected???
Tickets are bought, commercials are bought, contracts with the networks are signed and sealed, DirecTV subscribers can't cancel w/o loss of $$; the biggest loosers would be the beer vendors.

I agree that the replacement refs are bad. I don't know how to solve the problem except to maybe make a Facebook or Twitter project out of it. After all, that got Betty White to host SNL !

tkret 09-20-2012 07:27 PM

Thursday Night Football...
 
Let's hope that the attention during tonight's Thursday Night Football is directed towards the players and not the refs.

bluedog103 09-20-2012 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 557174)
:censored::sing:

Now that's funny! :loco:

paulandjean 09-21-2012 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkret (Post 557152)
Thanks for the link. And, it was NOT only last night. Anyone who thinks these replacements are doing a good job is either very charitable or doesn't watch the games. 3 and a half hour game??? Hey Refs, thanks for controlling the game. NOT! Well, at least the regulars will be back by Week 4 unless Roger Goodell wants to kill his golden goose.

I know the game,I have coached for many many years.The replacement teams are alll throwed together and many have not worked as a team ever. I should know? Have you ever done a game yourself?

kbace6 09-21-2012 07:04 AM

Not that bad
 
The replacement Refs are currently contracted until week 5. I suspect that will get extended. The only way the owners bring back the regular refs is if we all stop watching. And that just ain't gonna happen. To the best of my limited knowledge of the dispute, it is not about salary and all about full time pensions for part time workers and the NFL does not want to set that precedent. It's a great part time job that pays extremely well. I don't know why anyone would want to risk that kind of extra pay. It's not like the refs have a limited window like an NFL running back. Some of these guys have been (part time) refs for 20 years! It seems to me that for some it is never enough and they always want more more more. I think it is shameful on both sides.

FYI, I am a huge PATS fan and can see why the ref threw the flag on the "Phantom Holding call" against GRONK. It was borderline at best and I can't be 100% sure that a regular ref wouldn't have done the same thing. It's upsetting to me that my Pats lost the game, but if they had played better the rest of the game it would not have come down to 1 questionable call at the end.

kbace6 09-21-2012 09:06 AM

As an FYI to all who may not be aware. The games have been longer IN PART to the new rules regarding all scoring plays are being reviewed.

trichard 09-21-2012 09:38 AM

The Ref's would be back on the field if they would drop their demand for a pension program. The NFL has offered a 401(k). These guys earn between $80k and $160k for part time work over five months.

tkret 09-21-2012 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 558073)
I know the game,I have coached for many many years.The replacement teams are alll throwed together and many have not worked as a team ever. I should know? Have you ever done a game yourself?

To quote Bob Dylan: "You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows".

paulandjean 09-21-2012 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkret (Post 558120)
To quote Bob Dylan: "You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows".

Thats one person I would never use as a quote.

kbace6 09-21-2012 11:59 AM

Mis quote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 558150)
Thats one person I would never use as a quote.

Not only can I not understand him when he speaks, but I can't understand his quotes either. :a20:

2BNTV 09-25-2012 07:42 AM

Nfl refs a joke
 
The NFL refs have become a bad joke like watching wrestling. Article in the NY Daily News for you to enjoy.

Seattle Seahawks' win over Green Bay Packers Monday night proves that replacement refs turning NFL into a joke - NY Daily News

2BNTV 09-26-2012 11:08 AM

Still hotly debated in NY and the rest of the world.

NFL replacement ref debacle: League is ruining its $9 billion brand in a war over pennies - NY Daily News

I liked the line the NFL is losing credibility when fans don't think the results are real.

2BNTV 09-26-2012 12:35 PM

It's Over?
 
Report: NFL and NFLRA close to ending officials lockout | SI Tracking Blog

cgalloway6 09-26-2012 01:25 PM

The NFL is and will be fine. When has there been so much buzz about the NFL in weeks 1-3? If the replacement refs are consistent, then the players and coaches should be able to adapt, just like they do for the regular refs. Some of the crews tend to call holding more than the regular refs while others let the wide receivers and defensive backs have more contact without flags flying.

2BNTV 09-27-2012 08:01 AM

It's Over
 
NFL, referees reach tentative deal to end lockout - NFL - SI.com


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