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Tim Tebow to speak at controversial Dallas church.
This will probably make the Jets want to trade Tebow. Not sure which team would want him now though after he makes this kind of misstep? http://www.dallasnews.com/news/commu...s-in-april.ece
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It's reported that Tebow will play in Canada next year. Could be.... But maybe his long term goal is to be a Preacher?
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Tim Tebow has always been outspoken about his faith. I have come to admire him in that regards. I think the pastor views of that church are controversial. If Tim wants to share his story, it is his right to do so. I never got the impression that he demanded other people feel the same way especially his teammates.
Tim Tebow will have to go to the CFL if he wants to QB as the teams in the NFL see his talent level as something left to be desired. I think he will carve a career in the CFL and then go on to be a preacher. He is a fine young man, to be admired as a good role model. |
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Holy smokes. Read this. |
Where's the link to read?
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I am not shocked but saddened for his views. :(
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Jets will trade him for lack of NFL talent, not because of his beliefs. The reality is that if Tebow had showed the potential of his college days, his beliefs would be irrelevant and where he chose to give witness would be immaterial. Since he hasn't lived up to the hype, he will be traded.
I can't say I think much of his choice to talk at this church, but it is his choice and his business and I will defend his right to talk where he wants and to whom he wants so long as it harms no one else. I don't have to agree with him to admire his willingness to share his beliefs and not back down regardless of any controversy or ridicule. |
He's not "called" to impress folks with his football prowess....I believe he's been given this platform (football fame) to share his faith. Even Jesus went amongst the lowly, the tax-collectors, the folks looked down upon about their society of the day. Jesus calls ALL of his followers to "go out into the world to proclaim His Good News"!! Unfortunately most of them do not do that.....
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I agree with the statement that Christian beliefs have not changed but society has. Christians are under attack all over the world and even here in our american democracy christians are not spared.
Tebow should be congratulated for taking such a strong stand we need more people like him in Congress with his commitmnt to his beliefs My daughter and her friends are Jet fans and go to all of their home games. Frankly I can't stand the manner in which jet players treat Brett Favre and now Tim Tebow So I hope Tebow leaves. Overall I wonder why a clean cut guy garners so much dislike in our society while promiscuous and drugged induced celbrities are celebrated? |
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To me, there is clearly an "agenda" of the media who actually report this as some kind of "news". The church is a huge, thriving, Baptist congregation having a strict, fundamentalist pastor who's outspoken in his teachings from the Bible, and is disliked and even hated by morally-permissive opponents because of it.
So WHAT if Tebow wants to “share his story, the difference Jesus Christ has made in his life"??????? This is not controversial. Just because a famous athlete shares his personal faith walk with an audience--that goes to it by choice--does not mean that he suddenly became a clone of that pastor, having every last one of his own thoughts, words and deeds being supplanted by that pastor! Good Lord. It is getting to be appalling and even scary, how so many are willing to make a vilified, hated caricature out of a person just because they openly profess their Christian faith...and in this case, in a CHURCH no less! If a famous and admired person cannot profess his faith in a CHURCH--where nobody is forced to go with a gun to their head--we are in deep, deep s*** in this society. |
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It's not the fact of Tim Tebow professing his faith in Christ that bothers me--it's where he's doing it, in a church whose pastor is so hostile toward beliefs other than his own extremely narrow-minded, hostile take on other religions. In my mind, Tim Tebow is tacitly supporting Jeffress' hatred toward other religious beliefs by speaking here.
I'm stopping here. Speechless. |
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God does a pretty amazing job of creating people as billions of different individuals, who hopefully are allowed to have some individual freedom of speech. If the people choose to attend and listen to Tebow's story focused on God--not the pastor--then that is their right and this should not be considered "offensive" to certain groups of people who are not even mentioned. |
Why does anybody even pay any attention to this third string quarterback? What other third-rate player makes the news? Tim Tebow should just go quietly off and do whatever it is he wants to do, but playing in the NFL is probably not going to be one of his options.
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And in answer to another poster who wonders why anybody pays attention to a third-string quarterback, I think it is because he is a very famous quarterback, for whatever reason. So he has some credibility to some people. Again, I have nothing against Tebow. But I wonder exactly where his beliefs lie. Is he narrow-minded toward other religions? I have concerns due to the beliefs of the church where he is speaking. Hard to believe he would choose this particular church if he had a broad-minded, accepting view of others' religious beliefs. I'm a liberal Presbyterian, to let you know where I'm coming from. |
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A Christian's testimony of how God has been merciful, powerful and beneficent in his/her life is for anyone, not just those who are "broad-minded" in today's American political terms. Christ himself was not politically correct nor "broad-minded" nor "accepting of others' religious beliefs". He made this quite clear when saying: "6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:5-7 NIV1984 - Jesus the Way to the Father - Thomas - Bible Gateway |
It may be for anyone, but there are different slants to a testimony, and the venue he chose is telling. I don't think Jesus had the same distaste for people of different religions that this Jeffress seems to have. I certainly wouldn't give my testimony in a church whose pastor/doctrine was so exclusive.
That's it, I'm done with this. You can respond and have the last word; I don't care. I stand by my original thoughts. |
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Oh for Heavens sake! It's amazing to me how people like to demonize a Christian and twist them into being "haters". Maybe the admin should take another look and ban religious threads as well as political!
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Tebow Cancels Visit To Church
Tim Tebow has canceled his visit to The Frist Baptist Church as he became aware of the pastor's views.
Jets' Tebow cancels speech at controversial Dallas church - NYPOST.com |
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It's interesting that a "narrow-minded", "hate-filled" "hater" can change his mind like that when new information is presented. (Sarcasm intended) |
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"Some" say that he's caving into the liberal press! I see it as there is more than we know behind the story and he's maybe taking it under advisement that it wouldn't best serve anyone if he'd appear there. I applaud Tim Teboe (and his mom as well) for being bold with their faith.
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The Lamestream media has scored another point! Lets all be sure to only witness before "like believers" lest we be "haters! Who knows if his message might have been heard and heeded by someone in that church? Thank God Jesus made a point of reaching out to those most in need of his counsel and did not preach exclusively to those who shared his beliefs! But if it makes you feel better that Tebow is bowing to your liberal beliefs so be it!
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"Bigotry" has more than one definition!
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I would tend to think that Tebow would have given a testimony of GOD's love and how it has affected him for the good that he has achieved.
I don't think he would have the same views as expressd by the controversial pastor and that's why he backed out. It is just my impression and of course, I could be wrong. |
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Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance".[1] Bigotry may be based on real or perceived characteristics, including age, disability, dissension from popular opinions, socioeconomic status, ethnicity, gender identity, language, nationality, political alignment, race, region, religious or spiritual belief, sex, or sexual orientation. Bigotry is sometimes developed into an ideology or world view.
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It is best for me to leave this thread as everyone has their own interpretation of the Bible. I don't support the notion that it can be watered down to suit ones lifestyle! To each his own!
The administrator took care of the politics and ill censor myself away from discussing religion! |
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