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NotGolfer 03-21-2013 07:33 AM
Be aware: Traffic Enforcement
 
Heard on the radio this morning (WVLG) that the police will be out today (and into the future?)....they will be ticketing folks (cars, carts and bicyclists) who do not stop for stop signs etc. So drive defensively, adhere the traffic laws and be safe!!

:police:

Bill-n-Brillo 03-21-2013 07:34 AM
And here all along I thought the stop signs were only suggestions. :shocked:

Thanks for posting the info!

Bill :)

justjim 03-21-2013 07:49 AM
Police on motorcycle had a golf cart pulled over yesterday on Morse. Watch your speed out there!

George Bieniaszek 03-21-2013 07:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 645974)
And here all along I thought the stop signs were only suggestions. :shocked:

Thanks for posting the info!

Bill :)
:1rotfl: Good one Bill :)

NotGolfer 03-21-2013 08:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 645974)
And here all along I thought the stop signs were only suggestions. :shocked:

Thanks for posting the info!

Bill :)
A comment made (again on the radio...and not from me) one of the men said, that folks here in The Villages apparently don't think they need to adhere to the traffic laws! He also said they observe, daily, folks blowing through the stop signs in front of their stations along with other infractions.

rhood 03-21-2013 08:09 AM
How about deputizing the announcers at the radio station so they could issue citations between songs?

George Bieniaszek 03-21-2013 08:09 AM
All kidding aside, this is our third winter here in The Villages, and IMHO the worst driving I have ever seen!!

cquick 03-21-2013 08:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 645973)
Heard on the radio this morning (WVLG) that the police will be out today (and into the future?)....they will be ticketing folks (cars, carts and bicyclists) who do not stop for stop signs etc. So drive defensively, adhere the traffic laws and be safe!!

:police:
My husband was stopped here in Sanibel. The officer said he didn't stop at the corner of Anna Maria and Pinellas. But I was with him in the car, and I know he stopped. Luckily he only got a warning. We were very surprised when the police car turned the lights on behind us! :smiley:

gomoho 03-21-2013 08:35 AM
I have been here for six months and have seen the police on the roads in TV maybe 4 times. Guess they are doing a good job of hiding!

Serenoa 03-21-2013 08:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 645973)
Heard on the radio this morning (WVLG) that the police will be out today (and into the future?)....they will be ticketing folks (cars, carts and bicyclists) who do not stop for stop signs etc. So drive defensively, adhere the traffic laws and be safe!!

:police:
I've often wondered why radio stations decide to make such "advertisements"? Do the police officially tell them to put the word out, or is the radio station just passing along info that a listener out driving has observed & reported?

IMHO if you're not obeying the laws you deserve to get a ticket, and hopefully paying a stiff fine will convince you to change your driving habits & become a law-abiding driver. Telling bad drivers when & where they specifically need to be sure & obey the law serves no good purpose.

tommy steam 03-21-2013 08:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Bieniaszek (Post 645996)
All kidding aside, this is our third winter here in The Villages, and IMHO the worst driving I have ever seen!!
Also noticed, people do not use the signals on their cars or golf carts. Very dangerous.

Bill-n-Brillo 03-21-2013 09:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 645988)
A comment made (again on the radio...and not from me) one of the men said, that folks here in The Villages apparently don't think they need to adhere to the traffic laws! He also said they observe, daily, folks blowing through the stop signs in front of their stations along with other infractions.
Agreed. For what short amounts of time we're able to be in TV, we've noticed lots of people - cars and carts both - coasting through stop signs.

Bill :)

ajbrown 03-21-2013 09:23 AM
Be safe....
 
I, like everyone else that posts on this forum always come to a complete stop at a stop sign :ohdear:.

Next time you are hanging out watch how many folks actually come to a complete stop. Wheels completely stop rotating, not .02 MPH, zero rotation. Like I said, I always do that :angel::1rotfl:.

Seems to me there are two types of folks that come to stop signs:
  1. They are going to go unless they see a reason to stop.
  2. They are going to fully stop unless there is a reason to go.

Even though neither may fully stop, there is a subtle difference between the two. The folks in category one scare the heck out of me, especially coming out of tunnels.

Drive like the other person is clueless and you should be fine. Be safe.

billethkid 03-21-2013 09:24 AM
the radio warning is like those who flash their lights to let us know there are police ahead....really? Assisting others in the continued infractions of the law.

The driving and lack of obeying basic traffic laws is an epidemic in TV. I don't know whether folks over 60 don't know, are unable to see, unable to hear, too busy to be bothered or just don't care.....the percentage that do so is very, very high.

I am and have been anadvocate of the police having a special group that does nothing but enforce traffic violations in TV. Their pay would come from the more than adeqate revenues. They should be sufficient in number to be very noticeable and obvious. There should be a multiplier of the fine of some number, maybe double, for residents cited. There also should be a muliplier for repeat offenders.

Secondly there should be mandatory testing after age 69 (pick a number you like better!!!) to include a driving test. A pain in the butt? Of course. Will it make TV roads safer? Absolutely. We all know friends, family and neighbors who should not be behind the wheel.

In an area like TV with such a high concentration of us old(er) folk there needs to be more than just token enforcement from time to time.

TV needs to become known as a "speedtrap" location. We all know where they are when we travel. And we all drive the speed limit in those locations don't we? Yes we do.

Call your county sheriff and tell him you support more intense traffic regulation. I do, regularly.

Book 'em Danno!!!!

btk

graciegirl 03-21-2013 09:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 646016)
I've often wondered why radio stations decide to make such "advertisements"? Do the police officially tell them to put the word out, or is the radio station just passing along info that a listener out driving has observed & reported?

IMHO if you're not obeying the laws you deserve to get a ticket, and hopefully paying a stiff fine will convince you to change your driving habits & become a law-abiding driver. Telling bad drivers when & where they specifically need to be sure & obey the law serves no good purpose.
I am GUESSING that it is visiting time for a lot of teens who want to drive golf carts and some do it with care and some don't.

gmcneill 03-21-2013 11:43 AM
A Public Service Announcement is simply one of many enforcement tools that law enforcement agencies use. In thus matter, the intent of the agency is to gain public compliance wi traffic laws, and not to augment their revenues by ticketing every infraction a LEO witnesses. That is evidenced by cquick's husband receiving a warning in lieu of a citation.

EdV 03-21-2013 12:58 PM
A Cop pulls a driver over and says he’s giving him a ticket for not stopping at the stop sign.

The driver says “But officer, I did stop”

The Cop says “You slowed down but you didn’t stop”

The driver says “Stop, slow down, what’s the difference?”

The Cop starts whacking the driver with his night stick and the driver starts yelling “Stop, stop, you’re killing me”.

The Cops says, “Do you want me to Stop or just Slow Down”

TrudyM 03-21-2013 01:31 PM
Does FLA require an eye exam for renewal?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 646035)
The driving and lack of obeying basic traffic laws is an epidemic in TV. I don't know whether folks over 60 don't know, are unable to see, unable to hear, too busy to be bothered or just don't care.....the percentage that do so is very, very high.
.......

Secondly there should be mandatory testing after age 69 (pick a number you like better!!!) to include a driving test. A pain in the butt? Of course. Will it make TV roads safer? Absolutely. We all know friends, family and neighbors who should not be behind the wheel.


btk
Requiring an eye exam is a good idea IMHO.
Many of the states I have lived in require an eye exam for renewal of a drivers license if you were over a certain age. Does Florida?? Washington state doesn't anymore but I always thought it was a good idea. New Hampshire requires all people to renew in person so they can take the vision test licenses are for 4 years but at least it catches some of the folks. Hawaii also requires a vision test even for mail in renewals(you can have the form filled out by the eye doctor) and licenses for those over 71 are for 2 years instead of four.

Mickedamouse24 03-21-2013 02:15 PM
Anyone out there know what the white line(s) on the pavement at stop signs or traffic lights are for??? Yep, You're right! No one apparently, because you always see folks either past it or straddling it and out in the line of oncoming traffic!!!

janmcn 03-21-2013 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrudyM (Post 646162)
Requiring an eye exam is a good idea IMHO.
Many of the states I have lived in require an eye exam for renewal of a drivers license if you were over a certain age. Does Florida?? Washington state doesn't anymore but I always thought it was a good idea. New Hampshire requires all people to renew in person so they can take the vision test licenses are for 4 years but at least it catches some of the folks. Hawaii also requires a vision test even for mail in renewals(you can have the form filled out by the eye doctor) and licenses for those over 71 are for 2 years instead of four.
Yes, Florida requires an eye test every time you renew your license. Also, if you show up at the DMV with any kind of impairment, using a walker for example, you can be required to take a driving test to renew your license.

justjim 03-21-2013 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 646035)
the radio warning is like those who flash their lights to let us know there are police ahead....really? Assisting others in the continued infractions of the law.

The driving and lack of obeying basic traffic laws is an epidemic in TV. I don't know whether folks over 60 don't know, are unable to see, unable to hear, too busy to be bothered or just don't care.....the percentage that do so is very, very high.

I am and have been anadvocate of the police having a special group that does nothing but enforce traffic violations in TV. Their pay would come from the more than adeqate revenues. They should be sufficient in number to be very noticeable and obvious. There should be a multiplier of the fine of some number, maybe double, for residents cited. There also should be a muliplier for repeat offenders.

Secondly there should be mandatory testing after age 69 (pick a number you like better!!!) to include a driving test. A pain in the butt? Of course. Will it make TV roads safer? Absolutely. We all know friends, family and neighbors who should not be behind the wheel.

In an area like TV with such a high concentration of us old(er) folk there needs to be more than just token enforcement from time to time.

TV needs to become known as a "speedtrap" location. We all know where they are when we travel. And we all drive the speed limit in those locations don't we? Yes we do.H

Call your county sheriff and tell him you support more intense traffic regulation. I do, regularly.

Book 'em Danno!!!!

btk
:police: We're you a "smokey" in your former life? I would rather the police be out tracking down criminals rather than spending their time catching someone going five miles an hour over the speed limit or someone failing to come to a complete stop when no one is within a half mile of sight. Now, a drunk on the road---that is a different story.

JB in TV 03-21-2013 03:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by justjim (Post 646212)
:... I would rather the police be out tracking down criminals rather than spending their time catching someone going five miles an hour over the speed limit or someone failing to come to a complete stop when no one is within a half mile of sight. Now, a drunk on the road---that is a different story.
I agree 100%

billethkid 03-21-2013 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by justjim (Post 646212)
:police: We're you a "smokey" in your former life? I would rather the police be out tracking down criminals rather than spending their time catching someone going five miles an hour over the speed limit or someone failing to come to a complete stop when no one is within a half mile of sight. Now, a drunk on the road---that is a different story.
I agree 100% with what they should be doing. My proposal is for an incremental increase in the staffing dedicated to the scenario I presented.
No intention to take away what so ever of the enforcement to pursue the criminal element.

btk

BogeyBoy 03-21-2013 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickedamouse24 (Post 646195)
Anyone out there know what the white line(s) on the pavement at stop signs or traffic lights are for??? Yep, You're right! No one apparently, because you always see folks either past it or straddling it and out in the line of oncoming traffic!!!
I guess you and I are seeing the same people. I have mentioned the limit lines in conversations about driving and I get the deer in the headlight look.

rubicon 03-21-2013 03:38 PM
I must live a sheltered life because I hae yet to see a driver in The Villages run aincreasing the popu stop light or stop sign. I believe there are people who do but i don't believe that the problem is as bad as some are saying on this thread. consider futher that January thru March are the busiest months with both seasonal residents, their vistors and renters population and jence traffic, traffic infractions, etc.

As to stopping. Be aware that the wide white lines in the parking lots designate a stop and I know a guy who filed to stop at that line in a rec center parking lot and got a ticket. You can argue about whethr the cop could legally do so but the ticket was issued and paid.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-21-2013 03:44 PM
I'm sorry, but sometimes this coming to a complete stop at a stop sign is a bit over done. You're driving on a road with a 30 mph speed limit. You approach an intersection and are going about 2mph and you can see that there are no cars for a mile in any direction. In fact you see no cars whatsoever. You really need to come to a complete stop? Ridiculous.
In fact many states have changed their laws to allowing "rolling stops". That is in no way driving unsafely.
Why don't we start talking about something important that actually does affect the safety of others. How about mandatory testing for drivers over 65? How many elderly drivers are out there that can't see or have poor reaction time?

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-21-2013 03:49 PM
Quote:
the radio warning is like those who flash their lights to let us know there are police ahead....really? Assisting others in the continued infractions of the law.
Really? You flash your lights at someone who is speeding them and it causes them to slow down to below the speed limit and that's assisting them in breaking the law? I think that it's causing them to obey the law.

bimmertl 03-21-2013 04:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 646200)
Yes, Florida requires an eye test every time you renew your license. Also, if you show up at the DMV with any kind of impairment, using a walker for example, you can be required to take a driving test to renew your license.
Eye tests are not required upon renewal unless you are 80 years old and above.In fact, you can renew your florida DL on line as I did on my last renewal.

Official Website Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles

graciegirl 03-21-2013 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 646240)
I'm sorry, but sometimes this coming to a complete stop at a stop sign is a bit over done. You're driving on a road with a 30 mph speed limit. You approach an intersection and are going about 2mph and you can see that there are no cars for a mile in any direction. In fact you see no cars whatsoever. You really need to come to a complete stop? Ridiculous.
In fact many states have changed their laws to allowing "rolling stops". That is in no way driving unsafely.
Why don't we start talking about something important that actually does affect the safety of others. How about mandatory testing for drivers over 65? How many elderly drivers are out there that can't see or have poor reaction time?
I couldn't find any state where a rolling stop at stop signs was legal. In Idaho you can come to a rolling stop at a stop sign if you are riding a bike.

I did find this interesting chart.

The 10 U.S. cities with the worst drivers tilt towards the coasts | Motoramic - Yahoo! Autos

Shimpy 03-21-2013 04:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 646240)
I'm sorry, but sometimes this coming to a complete stop at a stop sign is a bit over done. You're driving on a road with a 30 mph speed limit. You approach an intersection and are going about 2mph and you can see that there are no cars for a mile in any direction. In fact you see no cars whatsoever. You really need to come to a complete stop? Ridiculous.
?
I agree. It's like driving in a desert and come to a crossroad with a stop sign and no other cars within 50 miles. There will always be those that will obey even the most ridiculous and obscure laws but the majority will use common sense.

graciegirl 03-21-2013 04:25 PM
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janmcn 03-21-2013 04:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 646250)
Eye tests are not required upon renewal unless you are 80 years old and above.In fact, you can renew your florida DL on line as I did on my last renewal.

Official Website Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles
You are correct, if you have renewed your license since 2002. Apparently my license was older than that because when I renewed in 2011, I had to take my birth certificate and a number of other documents to the DMV and have an eye test. I stand corrected. Everyone should go to the website to see what the requirements are for their particular situation. And I'm not quite 80 years old.

upinmaine 03-21-2013 04:31 PM
Very funny
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EdV (Post 646152)
A Cop pulls a driver over and says he’s giving him a ticket for not stopping at the stop sign.

The driver says “But officer, I did stop”

The Cop says “You slowed down but you didn’t stop”

The driver says “Stop, slow down, what’s the difference?”

The Cop starts whacking the driver with his night stick and the driver starts yelling “Stop, stop, you’re killing me”.

The Cops says, “Do you want me to Stop or just Slow Down”
Boy did I get a good laugh out of this. I have never heard that story and I retired from a 40+ years in fire and law enforcement.

CFrance 03-21-2013 04:47 PM
I agree with Gracie; it's probably because the kids are coming. Otherwise, why wouldn't they have been doing this during the rental season when traffic was so high?

Perhaps the radio announcement will cause the grandparents to stress to the grandkids to obey the law. Or stress to the parents to exert some control, since teens will forever be teens...

doccrocker 03-21-2013 04:54 PM
Stop?
 
Along the same lines --- back in the days of drag racing on Woodward Ave (Detroit) STOP meant:
S pin
T ires
O n
P avement

CFrance 03-21-2013 05:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doccrocker (Post 646289)
Along the same lines --- back in the days of drag racing on Woodward Ave (Detroit) STOP meant:
S pin
T ires
O n
P avement
Ha ha! WHY do you know this??:shrug:

Bambi 03-21-2013 05:18 PM
Drag racing
 
Woodward Ave was great. From Big Boys to Ted's Drive In--- wait for the light to change and hit the gas. I bet a few records were broken.

Tickled_pink 03-22-2013 09:16 AM
Joke -

Police officer pulls over a speeder. He approaches the vehicle and asked the driver, "didn't you see that 55 mph speed sign?" Yes I did sir, replies the speeder. I just didn't see you! :crap2:

DonH57 03-22-2013 09:30 AM
It makes perfect sense that enforcement would be severely heightened this past week and the next 2 weeks with the spring break and Easter coming. Excellent revenue generation atmosphere. I've seen a lot of cars speeding on Morse and Buena Vista but not much prescence of police. They could really rake it in .

Bogie Shooter 03-22-2013 09:43 AM
Oh yes, doing all this just for revenue generation..................give me a break!


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