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Bogie Shooter 04-02-2013 06:00 PM

Kids strapped in golf bag locations on cart.
 
Played Lopez on Thursday. When crossing Bell Meade to the par 3 a golf cart passed with Grandpa & Grandma in the front seats. On the back where one would put golf bags were two kids, maybe 9 and 7 strapped in, both standing up.
My God, how stupid can people be?????

ilovetv 04-02-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 652867)
Played Lopez on Thursday. When crossing Bell Meade to the par 3 a golf cart passed with Grandpa & Grandma in the front seats. On the back where one would put golf bags were two kids, maybe 9 and 7 strapped in, both standing up.
My God, how stupid can people be?????

And they'll be the first ones to SUE the car driver that runs over the kids if they slip out of the bag belt and fall out and under the car wheels. And there are lawyers who'll do it for them.....you know.....make the car driver's life a living hell, and try to take everything he's worked all his life for.

spk7951 04-02-2013 06:23 PM

Sadly I have seen that before also. The overall lack of common sense by some is unbelievable when it comes to the grand kids. This past week I have seen many unsafe practices in golf carts, at least in my opinion.

Bill-n-Brillo 04-02-2013 06:30 PM

YIKES! :22yikes:

Bill :)

BogeyBoy 04-02-2013 06:47 PM

I have seen this numerous times over the years. They won't let the kids play near the street but are willing to take a chance that they might spread them all over the street. Makes me ill.

mrsyarbie 04-02-2013 07:00 PM

Seatbelt are not that expensive and we ordered a 4 seater with seatbelts because we do have Grandkids that visit often from Tampa. I cant believe they did that !!!!!!!!!!!!!

graciegirl 04-02-2013 07:25 PM

PLEASE if you are new and your grandchildren are here don't let them drive alone and especially don't let two teens take both carts. I have seen some hair raising things. And all of us have seen some carts tipped over etc.

For your sake and their sake and our sake...don't trust them with the golf cart..

Warren Kiefer 04-02-2013 07:40 PM

Dumb Choices
 
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 652867)
Played Lopez on Thursday. When crossing Bell Meade to the par 3 a golf cart passed with Grandpa & Grandma in the front seats. On the back where one would put golf bags were two kids, maybe 9 and 7 strapped in, both standing up.
My God, how stupid can people be?????

Some Villagers are the most intellegent I have ever known. This said, far too many Villagers are the stupidist people I have ever known.

vj1213 04-02-2013 07:42 PM

I was walking my dog tonight and coming down the road was a golf cart w/ grandpa in the passenger seat, probably teenage grandson driving and a kid on each side on skateboards holding on to the roof.

Scoops 04-02-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 652867)
Played Lopez on Thursday. When crossing Bell Meade to the par 3 a golf cart passed with Grandpa & Grandma in the front seats. On the back where one would put golf bags were two kids, maybe 9 and 7 strapped in, both standing up.
My God, how stupid can people be?????

I saw a similar thing at the square over the weekend. Two teenagers were standing on the back of the cart, holding on to the straps while grandpa and grandma were driving. As an adult, your purpose in life is not to 'please children' but to 'protect children'. Too bad grandpa and grandma didn't use good judgement.

LndLocked 04-02-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 652914)
PLEASE if you are new and your grandchildren are here don't let them drive alone and especially don't let two teens take both carts. I have seen some hair raising things. And all of us have seen some carts tipped over etc.

For your sake and their sake and our sake...don't trust them with the golf cart..

I would have trusted all 3 of my kids when they were teens to drive my golf cart alone when legally old enough to do so. They have been driving now a combined 23 years with a total of 2 traffic tickets and 1 accident (not at fault).

If you can not trust your teenage child or grandchild to drive a golf cart responsibly .... that should be the least of of your concerns, as you have bigger issues to deal with.

Mack184 04-02-2013 08:02 PM

Obviously you never grew up in the country where it was common for kids to ride in the back of pick-up trucks, on the fenders of farm tractors, on hay wagons and so on. Did a lot of that in my day. Actually I'd like to see a pic of the two kids strapped in like golf bags. Most interesting.

asianthree 04-02-2013 08:05 PM

its ok if it happens on easter break....what happens with grandpa and grandma stays with grandpa and grandma,,,unless it requires a ER visit

Ragman 04-02-2013 08:18 PM

You can't fix STUPID

:pray:forthe kids

tommy steam 04-02-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 652867)
Played Lopez on Thursday. When crossing Bell Meade to the par 3 a golf cart passed with Grandpa & Grandma in the front seats. On the back where one would put golf bags were two kids, maybe 9 and 7 strapped in, both standing up.
My God, how stupid can people be?????

Very stupid, saw a mom sitting in the drivers seat of cart with a kid about two or so ,sitting on her lap. The child had her/his hands on steering wheel. Kid in passenger seat was halfway out of cart. She was flying on her way to publix. There was a lot of traffic in the area.

graciegirl 04-02-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LndLocked (Post 652940)
I would have trusted all 3 of my kids when they were teens to drive my golf cart alone when legally old enough to do so. They have been driving now a combined 23 years with a total of 2 traffic tickets and 1 accident (not at fault).

If you can not trust your teenage child or grandchild to drive a golf cart responsibly .... that should be the least of of your concerns, as you have bigger issues to deal with.

Most people want to believe that their grandchildren are as responsible as your children were.

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Bogie Shooter 04-02-2013 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 652944)
Obviously you never grew up in the country where it was common for kids to ride in the back of pick-up trucks, on the fenders of farm tractors, on hay wagons and so on. Did a lot of that in my day. Actually I'd like to see a pic of the two kids strapped in like golf bags. Most interesting.

If this is directed at me, you are obviously wrong.
Yep, grew up on the farm and was driving a tractor at age 8 and the rack truck at twelve. Riding in the back of a pick-up or sitting on the fender of a tractor does not even come close to them kids strapped to that golf cart.

simpkinp 04-02-2013 08:36 PM

My big fear is that one day we will have a tragic accident here and some young lives will end due to this foolishness. I don't know how to stop it. Don't these people read the newspaper, use common sense and see how many golf cart accidents we have here? The POA bulletin does an excellent job covering these issues.

sjdjmd 04-02-2013 08:39 PM

Saw a kid the other day who was standing on the back of a golf cart while 2 others rode. Scary!

perrjojo 04-02-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 652867)
Played Lopez on Thursday. When crossing Bell Meade to the par 3 a golf cart passed with Grandpa & Grandma in the front seats. On the back where one would put golf bags were two kids, maybe 9 and 7 strapped in, both standing up.
My God, how stupid can people be?????

As Ron White says, "you can't fix Stupid".

paulandjean 04-03-2013 06:34 AM

Maybe the grandparents where driving slow,so that nothing would happen. Maybe 10 or 15 years it was common to see kids in the back of pick-up trucks on the inter-state doing 70 mph.How many kids rode in a trailer on moving days. How man boys had go-carts that they drove in the street with traffic,and had high speeds. Give these people a break,maybe they knew what they were doing.Is this against the law?

graciegirl 04-03-2013 06:39 AM

Everyone entitled of approval or disapproval of others style of parenting.
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 652963)
Most people want to believe that their grandchildren are as responsible as your children were.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...11-photo-3.jpg

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ash-pix-55728/

See picture? Point to broken cart.

vj1213 04-03-2013 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 653057)
Maybe the grandparents where driving slow,so that nothing would happen. Maybe 10 or 15 years it was common to see kids in the back of pick-up trucks on the inter-state doing 70 mph.How many kids rode in a trailer on moving days. How man boys had go-carts that they drove in the street with traffic,and had high speeds. Give these people a break,maybe they knew what they were doing.Is this against the law?

OMG! Give these people a break! Why for jeopardizing the safety of their grandchildren!
I grew up in a country town...have ridden in the back of many a truck...ridden in cars without seat belts. Did a few crazy things...but when it comes to a child's safety..why chance strapping him in life a used golf bag? How many people have been injured or even killed on a golf cart? How many times have people here complained about drivers in TV? I guess if there is no room in the car we could strap them to a luggage rack or sit them in the trunk! Personally my grandchildren's safety is more important than a short joy ride and if it's not illegal it should be.

NotGolfer 04-03-2013 09:18 AM

Folks think it's "fine" only if they are the ones doing it (fill in the blank on what the deed might be). You know, that "entitlement" mentality??!! As for kids strapped on the back of a golf-cart---it more than likely is illegal since this isn't a seat but a place for the clubs. If nothing else folks should be using "common sense" when they're out and about. I liked what one poster said---"no room IN the car? Let's tie the kids to the luggage rack or put them in the trunk!!" That makes about as much sense as tying kids to the cart.

We'll continue to see these acts until there's a horrible accident (or make that plural)---then maybe a big crack-down will happen where our privileges of being a "golf cart community" would be taken away.

PNaughton 04-03-2013 10:00 AM

Reading this about the kids riding on the back of the cart reminds me of the times while growing up in the Bronx we use to hitch a ride on the back of a bus. You got on the back bumper and held on for dear life. In the winter when it snowed we then hitched a ride on the back of a car while riding on your sled. Who didn't ride in the back of a pick up truck, or on the running board of the old man's car. Have fun kids you only live once.

ilovetv 04-03-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 653057)
Maybe the grandparents where driving slow,so that nothing would happen. Maybe 10 or 15 years it was common to see kids in the back of pick-up trucks on the inter-state doing 70 mph.How many kids rode in a trailer on moving days. How man boys had go-carts that they drove in the street with traffic,and had high speeds. Give these people a break,maybe they knew what they were doing.Is this against the law?

Or maybe they had their heads buried in the sand, convinced that "it'll never happen to us". They may be "dead right" one day.

But police, fire and EMS workers will tell you that it DOES happen, every day, and they get traumatized by seeing the maimed or killed innocents..to the extent they have post traumatic stress disorder and need to attend counseling/therapy sometimes for months/years.

Does any of us want to see an innocent child (or ignorant adult for that matter) with his brains or guts spilled on the street here, when it can be easily prevented?!?!?!?

Not everything that is "legal" is good for a person, especially when it's a child who's not yet competent for making decisions about personal safety. That's the job of grownups who are sober and of sound mind.

paulandjean 04-03-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PNaughton (Post 653170)
Reading this about the kids riding on the back of the cart reminds me of the times while growing up in the Bronx we use to hitch a ride on the back of a bus. You got on the back bumper and held on for dear life. In the winter when it snowed we then hitched a ride on the back of a car while riding on your sled. Who didn't ride in the back of a pick up truck, or on the running board of the old man's car. Have fun kids you only live once.

I agree,Think people are making a little to much out of this.They think this is so bad and yet 8 and 10 year olds have their own guns for hunting. 7 year old racing motorcycles on tracks for trophies.As a teacher for years and years, A child would get a scrape on the playground,but you would have to call their parents,they would come speed from work or home to see if johnnie was allright.Some I have seen actually were crying,some I told them the parents to behave,because what you are doing is wrong. I never made any big deals out these happening. Think you also should stop making a big deal ,these grandparents I am sure love their little ones as much as you love yours. Let the kids "grow up". This is why are youth scores from around the world nations are going down.

vj1213 04-03-2013 10:26 AM

There is nothing wrong in letting kids be kids. I am not saying prevent kids from having fun. I've had broken bones from being a kid. Had the four wheelers and bikes. Most kids before hunting are taught gun safety. But strapping a kid to a moving vehicle with a belt...well, if that is not stupidity on the part of an adult. Could you honestly live with yourself if your golf cart flipped and your grandchild was seriously injured or killed because of "YOUR" negligence.

memason 04-03-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by vj1213 (Post 653183)
There is nothing wrong in letting kids be kids. I am not saying prevent kids from having fun. I've had broken bones from being a kid. Had the four wheelers and bikes. Most kids before hunting are taught gun safety. But strapping a kid to a moving vehicle with a belt...well, if that is not stupidity on the part of an adult. Could you honestly live with yourself if your golf cart flipped and your grandchild was seriously injured or killed because of "YOUR" negligence.

Is that not the same argument for using a seatbelt in a cart? Wouldn't you be strapping a child to a cart that could overturn?

In all honesty, strapping kids in like a golf bag is no different than strapping them in the rear seats....they're just standing instead of sitting.

I just don't see the big problem here... My clubs have ridden around, strapped on my cart, for over 2 year and not a scratch!

Bogie Shooter 04-03-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PNaughton (Post 653170)
Reading this about the kids riding on the back of the cart reminds me of the times while growing up in the Bronx we use to hitch a ride on the back of a bus. You got on the back bumper and held on for dear life. In the winter when it snowed we then hitched a ride on the back of a car while riding on your sled. Who didn't ride in the back of a pick up truck, or on the running board of the old man's car. Have fun kids you only live once.

such good advice.

graciegirl 04-03-2013 10:50 AM

I love children and I was a good teacher. Loved every day going to school. I am now glad that I live in an over 55 community where I don't have to worry about other peoples children.

Because I do...and I would. I am just geared that way. I want to separate myself from things that cause worry.

I am not responsible for anything that happens to other peoples children here. But I can't keep myself from caring and worrying.

I read posts on this thread from dare devil guys and protective moms. We are who we are.

Challenger 04-03-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 653057)
Maybe the grandparents where driving slow,so that nothing would happen. Maybe 10 or 15 years it was common to see kids in the back of pick-up trucks on the inter-state doing 70 mph.How many kids rode in a trailer on moving days. How man boys had go-carts that they drove in the street with traffic,and had high speeds. Give these people a break,maybe they knew what they were doing.Is this against the law?

How many were killed , or maimed? We spend literally billons to improve vehicle safety and complete ignor the one best method-- Commom sense

Nana18 04-03-2013 11:34 AM

Kids strapped in golf bag locations
 
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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 653146)
Folks think it's "fine" only if they are the ones doing it (fill in the blank on what the deed might be). You know, that "entitlement" mentality??!! As for kids strapped on the back of a golf-cart---it more than likely is illegal since this isn't a seat but a place for the clubs. If nothing else folks should be using "common sense" when they're out and about. I liked what one poster said---"no room IN the car? Let's tie the kids to the luggage rack or put them in the trunk!!" That makes about as much sense as tying kids to the cart.

We'll continue to see these acts until there's a horrible accident (or make that plural)---then maybe a big crack-down will happen where our privileges of being a "golf cart community" would be taken away.

Hopefully, there will never be a horrible accident regarding the kids driving the golf cart or being strapped in where the golf clubs go. I do not understand the stupidity of the grandparents or the parents of these kids letting this happen. We were driving down our street last week and saw a golf cart weaving back and forth in the path so we slowed down before realizing that a grandfather had a child about 2 sitting in his lap driving the cart and another toddler sitting beside him. We were afraid to pass him because of the weaving of the cart. It would bother me terribly if a child was hurt because - again - of the stupidity of the grandparents or the parents.

gerryann 04-03-2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nana18 (Post 653213)
Hopefully, there will never be a horrible accident regarding the kids driving the golf cart or being strapped in where the golf clubs go. I do not understand the stupidity of the grandparents or the parents of these kids letting this happen. We were driving down our street last week and saw a golf cart weaving back and forth in the path so we slowed down before realizing that a grandfather had a child about 2 sitting in his lap driving the cart and another toddler sitting beside him. We were afraid to pass him because of the weaving of the cart. It would bother me terribly if a child was hurt because - again - of the stupidity of the grandparents or the parents.

Complete and total stupidity!!!

paulandjean 04-03-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 653215)
Complete and total stupidity!!!

sad part they probably live down the street from you. They could be your friends.

rubicon 04-03-2013 02:31 PM

They Come By It Honestly
 


Grandparents strapping grandkids on the back of their carts. Grandparents driving carts and pulling grandkids on skateboards. Grandparents with little biddy grandkids in their laps swerving back and forth in order to entertain their grandkids. Someone wrote "You can't fix stupid." Well that's why, its passed on from generation to generation. Fifty years from now these grandkids will be living in TV and they will say to their grandkids. When I was a little boy my grnad daddy let me ride on the back of his cart, pulled me on my skateboard and let me drive his cart blindfolded . So fun. so hop on the back and............................................... ....

In short they come by their stupid honestly

Golfingnut 04-03-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 653284)

Grandparents strapping grandkids on the back of their carts. Grandparents driving carts and pulling grandkids on skateboards. Grandparents with little biddy grandkids in their laps swerving back and forth in order to entertain their grandkids. Someone wrote "You can't fix stupid." Well that's why, its passed on from generation to generation. Fifty years from now these grandkids will be living in TV and they will say to their grandkids. When I was a little boy my grnad daddy let me ride on the back of his cart, pulled me on my skateboard and let me drive his cart blindfolded . So fun. so hop on the back and............................................... ....

In short they come by their stupid honestly

I must say my opinion, that kids that are raised that way tend to become better adults than those that are over protected. Just look at me, I raised myself and look how wonderful I turned out.

:beer3:

ilovetv 04-03-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by memason (Post 653188)
Is that not the same argument for using a seatbelt in a cart? Wouldn't you be strapping a child to a cart that could overturn?

In all honesty, strapping kids in like a golf bag is no different than strapping them in the rear seats....they're just standing instead of sitting.

I just don't see the big problem here... My clubs have ridden around, strapped on my cart, for over 2 year and not a scratch!

There's a big difference with this scenario of kids strapped to the golf cart bag area and being strapped in the rear seats.

- Your clubs are inanimate objects without hands that can undo the strap buckle;

- Your clubs cannot wiggle and squirm themselves out of the strap unless the buckle loosens because it was not pressed shut enough.

- Rear seat belts are made for being lap restraints that cross the body in the appropriate place. Bag belts were not made for bodies, and depending on the height of the child and the grip of the buckle of the strap, the kids can wiggle or accidentally slide out of them, into traffic......not onto golf course turf by the way.

- Rear seat belts have a hook and clasp closure and not the belt gripper like the bag strap buckle is. The seatbelt hook and clasp is more reliable to stay closed.

- Most importantly: What if the golf cart with kids strapped on the back gets rear-ended by a car/truck?? We don't care if golf clubs get smashed and broken, but we do care if it's a little kid's legs, abdomen, spine, chest or head.

paulandjean 04-03-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 653295)
There's a big difference with this scenario of kids strapped to the golf cart bag area and being strapped in the rear seats.

- Your clubs are inanimate objects without hands that can undo the strap buckle;

- Your clubs cannot wiggle and squirm themselves out of the strap unless the buckle loosens because it was not pressed shut enough.

- Rear seat belts are made for being lap restraints that cross the body in the appropriate place. Bag belts were not made for bodies, and depending on the height of the child and the grip of the buckle of the strap, the kids can wiggle or accidentally slide out of them, into traffic......not onto golf course turf by the way.

- Rear seat belts have a hook and clasp closure and not the belt gripper like the bag strap buckle is. The seatbelt hook and clasp is more reliable to stay closed.

- Most importantly: What if the golf cart with kids strapped on the back gets rear-ended by a car/truck?? We don't care if golf clubs get smashed and broken, but we do care if it's a little kid's legs, abdomen, spine, chest or head.

Thats why children are outlawed from riding on the back of a motorcycle.

tommy steam 04-03-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 653060)
See picture? Point to broken cart.

A picture is worth a thousand words.


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