Originally Posted by blueash (Post 653141)

The link in your post does not seem to work so I cut and pasted it out of the reply code. This "article" was written by a salesman for a company that charges high prices for its products which are not made in China. Want to bet they are loosing market share and this bit of scare tactic, xenophobia, might be just the thing to increase sales.
.........this author's ridiculous hyperbole.
Chinese environment official challenged to swim in polluted river | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 653141)

The link in your post does not seem to work so I cut and pasted it out of the reply code. This "article" was written by a salesman for a company that charges high prices for its products which are not made in China. Want to bet they are loosing market share and this bit of scare tactic, xenophobia, might be just the thing to increase sales. There is a bit of truth in what he writes. There is not a single bit of evidence that any of the photos has any association with organic practices in China. He just threw in some generic pollution shots. And the line which gives it all away...

Claiming that the Chinese official wouldn't swim in a river when he was dared to do so .."Because the river there is so polluted that swimming in it would mean certain death." The dare was on a blog by an eyeglass retailer. No where in the original article (which by the way seems to indicate that the government is trying to clean up) is there any basis for this author's ridiculous hyperbole.
Chinese environment official challenged to swim in polluted river | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 653141)

The link in your post does not seem to work so I cut and pasted it out of the reply code. This "article" was written by a salesman for a company that charges high prices for its products which are not made in China. Want to bet they are loosing market share and this bit of scare tactic, xenophobia, might be just the thing to increase sales. There is a bit of truth in what he writes. There is not a single bit of evidence that any of the photos has any association with organic practices in China. He just threw in some generic pollution shots. And the line which gives it all away...

Claiming that the Chinese official wouldn't swim in a river when he was dared to do so .."Because the river there is so polluted that swimming in it would mean certain death." The dare was on a blog by an eyeglass retailer. No where in the original article (which by the way seems to indicate that the government is trying to clean up) is there any basis for this author's ridiculous hyperbole.
Chinese environment official challenged to swim in polluted river | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 653220)

As an importer of Chinese agricultural/industrial chemicals with Chinese partners, I can tell you that I would not consume "organic" food from China. It is bad enough that U.S. "organic" food is not necessarily "pure" as inferred by the public, let alone invite trouble by importing from proven polluted environments.

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 653216)

Thanks for the further research.........appreciate it

Whenever possible, I try to stick with foods home grown in the United States.......although even that sometimes has it’s issues

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 653243)

Agree. There are of course many other nations with food quality requirements equal to ours it is true that the growing conditions and governmental supervision in third world countries is not up to first world standards. My only reason for posting was that the article you posted is not a fair discussion of the issues. I wonder if you meant FDA when you list CDC. The CDC typically deals with disease outbreaks such as salmonella, shigella, and c. diff while the FDA is responsible for food safety and inspection. Sadly recent federal budget cutbacks have decreased the ability of the FDA to monitor both domestic and imported foods.

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 653220)

As an importer of Chinese agricultural/industrial chemicals with Chinese partners, I can tell you that I would not consume "organic" food from China. It is bad enough that U.S. "organic" food is not necessarily "pure" as inferred by the public, let alone invite trouble by importing from proven polluted environments.

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 653337)

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Not sure if this link will work now. It was just sent to me by a friend who is into health foods, organically grown produce, etc.

Don’t shoot the messenger. Is it false? Or, is it true?

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 653420)

Great that you actually go and check for real data from reliable sources. Again all the CDC articles that I read dealt with food borne illness from bacteria, viruses, and other organisms. None dealt with the issues raised by the author of the article in the OP of poisons and toxins and heavy metals. Those are real issues deserving real thought but I didn't see any data on the CDC, or frankly the FDA's website on those concerns. It is a bit of a stretch when the head of the Australian Garlic growers association tells Australians that they should only buy Australian garlic because Chinese garlic isn't good, and you (the author) use that as proof. Again I agree with the thrust of the thread.. Third world farming practices are more likely to present a potential risk. I would suggest that if you are concerned you be selective in your shopping.