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msendo 04-06-2013 06:50 PM

One Crazy Dog Owner to Possibly Another
 
I know it sounds crazy, but has anyone ever felt the slightest bit of guilt because they had to relocate their dog(s) to TV, along with yourselves? Once our house is sold, we are planning on buying a CYV. This in itself will give my two 'guys' some freedom. My dogs do play in dog parks, though they are empty at times. My husband and I have seen ALL the parks in and out of TV. However, since my husband retired, those spoiled boys are use to walking trails, running and sniffing in large areas, unleashed, and love to go swimming in lakes and rivers. My black lab is drawn to water as if a magnet is pulling him. He would be alligator munch! My German Shepard is active and high maintenance. They also would have to leave my kids, who are attached to them, as well. This wouldn't stop us from leaving and living the life that we are looking to live, but at the same time, I do feel guilty and sad at times. Anybody?

skyc6 04-06-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by msendo (Post 655085)
I know it sounds crazy, but has anyone ever felt the slightest bit of guilt because they had to relocate their dog(s) to TV, along with yourselves? Once our house is sold, we are planning on buying a CYV. This in itself will give my two 'guys' some freedom. My dogs do play in dog parks, though they are empty at times. My husband and I have seen ALL the parks in and out of TV. However, since my husband retired, those spoiled boys are use to walking trails, running and sniffing in large areas, unleashed, and love to go swimming in lakes and rivers. My black lab is drawn to water as if a magnet is pulling him. He would be alligator munch! My German Shepard is active and high maintenance. They also would have to leave my kids, who are attached to them, as well. This wouldn't stop us from leaving and living the life that we are looking to live, but at the same time, I do feel guilty and sad at times. Anybody?

Have you thought about how you are going to deal with your guilt and sadness? The activities you talk about are not available here in The Villages.

redwitch 04-06-2013 07:09 PM

I think you'll find many in your position. We move and our pets have to adapt to a whole new way of life with us. They'll adjust. They're with their people and that's much more important to them.

Yes, they'll have to walk on a lead but there are some great running areas where they can run and be walked untethered (very large area on Rio Grande behind the mailboxes -- not a dog park). If they're people dogs, they'll get lots of love and attention from strangers. If typical, they'll love riding in the golf cart.

So, shed a tear or two for what they'll lose and then think of what they'll gain -- happy mommy and daddy, lots of attention, new smells and sounds.

ugotme 04-06-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 655099)
I think you'll find many in your position. We move and our pets have to adapt to a whole new way of life with us. They'll adjust. They're with their people and that's much more important to them.

Yes, they'll have to walk on a lead but there are some great running areas where they can run and be walked untethered (very large area on Rio Grande behind the mailboxes -- not a dog park). If they're people dogs, they'll get lots of love and attention from strangers. If typical, they'll love riding in the golf cart.

So, shed a tear or two for what they'll lose and then think of what they'll gain -- happy mommy and daddy, lots of attention, new smells and sounds.

EXACTLY!

Moved from Long Island to So. Fl. with 2 large dogs. We ALL had to adapt.
But your dog(s) are with the ones they love and you are with them.

Can you really imagine leaving them and coming to TV without them - EVERYONE would be sad and miserable.

Together, you will all be fine. Their tails will be wagging like crazy !

ENJOY !

skyc6 04-06-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ugotme (Post 655106)
EXACTLY!

Moved from Long Island to So. Fl. with 2 large dogs. We ALL had to adapt.
But your dog(s) are with the ones they love and you are with them.

Can you really imagine leaving them and coming to TV without them - EVERYONE would be sad and miserable.

Together, you will all be fine. Their tails will be wagging like crazy !

ENJOY !

Sadness and Guilt should not be the emotions you are feeling! :)

oot 04-06-2013 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 655099)
I think you'll find many in your position. We move and our pets have to adapt to a whole new way of life with us. They'll adjust. They're with their people and that's much more important to them.

Yes, they'll have to walk on a lead but there are some great running areas where they can run and be walked untethered (very large area on Rio Grande behind the mailboxes -- not a dog park). If they're people dogs, they'll get lots of love and attention from strangers. If typical, they'll love riding in the golf cart.

So, shed a tear or two for what they'll lose and then think of what they'll gain -- happy mommy and daddy, lots of attention, new smells and sounds.



I agree. The boys will love riding in the golf cart as their new adventure. Seems like all the dogs love doing that!

We had a house (on a main street) in the city and a house on a lake in the woods up north. Our dog LOVED running free and being on the lake on weekends. But during the week, we played with him he did just fine in the city. He just wanted to be with us!

So never fear - just so long you are there they dogs will be HAPPY!

msendo 04-06-2013 07:57 PM

So true, dogs, being so faithful, are just happy to be with the ones who love them. I know we would adjust. Thanks form the boost. I actually can picture them riding in a golf cart!

CFrance 04-06-2013 08:19 PM

Our dog grew up running free and swimming on our 1.5-mile long gorgeous dog beach in Muskegon, MI, a block or so from our condo. He ran up and down behind our condo from the marina to the house to chase a tennis ball (allowed). He considered being on a leash to be a forced march and an affront to his freedom.

We came here, and the leash went on. I started him out at one-mile walks, after dark because he's hairy and gets hot in the sun, and have worked him up to three miles. He's actually presenting himself to me at 8:30 (how do they know the time???) to get going.

And another new thing he's discovered--lounging out on the front walk on a line, watching the world go by. He loves it.

Would he rather be at the beach? You bet. But as someone said earlier, he'd rather be on a leash with us than not be with us at all.

You'll find things to do with your dogs that they will enjoy. We've discovered a dog beach at the inlet at New Smyrna Beach. It may be just a monthly thing, but after we sell our MI place, we will take him swimming there.

Good luck and don't worry!

paulandjean 04-07-2013 06:40 AM

Maybe you could leave them at home ,where they live now.Lakes, woods and friends.

Taltarzac725 04-07-2013 07:14 AM

Doggie Doo Run Run.
 
Doggie Doo Run Run has a 5 acre field where dogs can run and do this frequently. It is just about a mile north of Southern Trace Shopping Center near the intersection of CR101 and CR104.

Even though I have not visited them there are good sized parks that allow dogs in Leesburg, Inverness and Ocala. http://barkcentraldogpark.com/index.html

Madelaine Amee 04-07-2013 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 655293)
Maybe you could leave them at home ,where they live now.Lakes, woods and friends.

NO, don't leave your dogs behind, you are going to have to adjust and they will too. We all bring our animals with us, they become our children when we are empty nesters.

gomoho 04-07-2013 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 655293)
Maybe you could leave them at home ,where they live now.Lakes, woods and friends.

What an absurd thing to say - no one that has ever owned or loved a pet would even think of that! Who would they have to share ice cream with???

msendo 04-07-2013 08:37 AM

And pizza!!! Yep. They'll be coming with us. We'll all figure it out. Everything will be fine.

CFrance 04-07-2013 08:44 AM

Disregard the trolls and flames!

KathieI 04-07-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by msendo (Post 655362)
And pizza!!! Yep. They'll be coming with us. We'll all figure it out. Everything will be fine.

Yes, it will be fine. I brought my dogs with me from CA and not only did they take the car trip very well (no one threw up, thank God) but when they got here, they became very comfortable with their new surroundings. Yes, they don't have the large, walled in yard, that they used to run around in all day, but they like the large house and huge lanai and still enjoy running around after each other. Dogs adapt very well esp because they are with mommy. The only thing they still can't get used to is LIGHTENING AND THUNDER, but then again, neither can mommy.

Barefoot 04-07-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 655314)
Doggie Doo Run Run has a 5 acre field where dogs can run and do this frequently. It is just about a mile north of Southern Trace Shopping Center near the intersection of CR101 and CR104. There are good sized parks that allow dogs in Leesburg, Inverness and Ocala. Bark Central Dog Park

We relocated our dogs from a horse farm where they ran free all day. The dog park known as Doggie Doo Run Run is a dream come true for most dogs. Only $30 per month for two dogs, and they clean up after your pets. Our dogs adore our daily trip to DDRR where they get to run free on 5 acres and play and socialize and do all the things that make dogs happy. There is a wading pool there, and usually there is a lab splashing and lying in it. It's a perfect solution for us, and only 7 minutes from our house.

Bonnevie 04-07-2013 09:58 AM

I have been thinking the same thing. One of my dogs is older and seems to be exhibiting some dementia. I worry she'll not take to new surroundings well. But I think if I'm happy, they will be, too. and I'll be with them more so that should help.

paulandjean 04-07-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 655333)
What an absurd thing to say - no one that has ever owned or loved a pet would even think of that! Who would they have to share ice cream with???

Did she not say, The dog would have to leave the kids ,who are attached to the dog.Pretty simple to me. Call me crazy, I only share ice cream with humans,the two leg type not the four leg type.

jebartle 04-07-2013 11:21 AM

Certainly understand
 
our little dachshund lived on a golf course with freedom to run and ocassionaly come home with a golf ball (adopted by the membership, he would be well fed also, Ahhh!) but now his mom and dad bought him a golf cart and all is well with the world!

Barefoot 04-07-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 655293)
Maybe you could leave them at home ,where they live now. Lakes, woods and friends. Did she not say, The dog would have to leave the kids ,who are attached to the dog. Call me crazy,

OK, I'm calling you crazy, but only because you asked. :evil6:

I know you don't really think that the OP should leave their dogs up north ... who would leave a family member behind! I think you just like to poke people with a stick to see if they're awake!! :mornincoffee:

CFrance 04-07-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 655497)
OK, I'm calling you crazy, but only because you asked. :evil6:

I know you don't really think that the OP should leave their dogs up north ... who would leave a family member behind! I think you just like to poke people with a stick to see if they're awake!! :mornincoffee:

Some not-so-nice posts are worded in such a fashion as to allow the author to hide behind another explanation when called to task.

Maybe the pet forum should have a password known only to pet owners! (Just kidding...):shrug:

msendo 04-07-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 655459)
Did she not say, The dog would have to leave the kids ,who are attached to the dog.Pretty simple to me. Call me crazy, I only share ice cream with humans,the two leg type not the four leg type.

They are my pets to care for now, and my responsibility. I will keep on loving them, ass they are a part of the family. My 'kids' are at a stage in their life where they are pursuing careers and working unpredictable hours. They may not be permitted to have dogs where they live, as they are not all in a position to purchase homes. We will make the adjustment and keep on loving them to death. That's what pet owners do.

Bonnevie 04-07-2013 01:24 PM

all the more reasons the kids will have to visit....

gomoho 04-07-2013 02:50 PM

msendo - don't take things personally - sometimes we have folks that love to stir the pot. As you can tell from the majority of the posts we love our fur kids and wouldn't leave them behind and do everything in our power to make their adjustment as easy as can be. And then share some icecream with them (this comes up 'cause it drives some folks crazy that people share their ice cream with a dog, or take them for a walk in a dog stroller, or bring their dogs to the square - even if the dog is not a problem. We use to go to the McDonalds drive thru and buy our Great Dane a burger that he would take bites of, just like you or I)!

CFrance 04-07-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 655577)
msendo - don't take things personally - sometimes we have folks that love to stir the pot. As you can tell from the majority of the posts we love our fur kids and wouldn't leave them behind and do everything in our power to make their adjustment as easy as can be. And then share some icecream with them (this comes up 'cause it drives some folks crazy that people share their ice cream with a dog, or take them for a walk in a dog stroller, or bring their dogs to the square - even if the dog is not a problem. We use to go to the McDonalds drive thru and buy our Great Dane a burger that he would take bites of, just like you or I)!

gomoho's right, and most will love your fur kids too. They sound like super dogs.

paulandjean 04-07-2013 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 655577)
msendo - don't take things personally - sometimes we have folks that love to stir the pot. As you can tell from the majority of the posts we love our fur kids and wouldn't leave them behind and do everything in our power to make their adjustment as easy as can be. And then share some icecream with them (this comes up 'cause it drives some folks crazy that people share their ice cream with a dog, or take them for a walk in a dog stroller, or bring their dogs to the square - even if the dog is not a problem. We use to go to the McDonalds drive thru and buy our Great Dane a burger that he would take bites of, just like you or I)!

Do you have your own bowls or do you share them. Dinner at your home must be a hoot.

CFrance 04-07-2013 04:23 PM

PM'ed you, Msendo.

Hopeful2 04-07-2013 04:29 PM

I was concerned about how my dog would adapt to the heat, along with a totally new environment. (He's getting up there in age.) We visited TV with Casper last July and he absolutely loved it! We have been back with him two more times and each time, he has been a very happy camper. I have no doubt at all that he's ready to make the move as a full time Villager.

Dogs do great, as long as they're with their "family". :doggie:

duffysmom 04-07-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 655293)
Maybe you could leave them at home ,where they live now.Lakes, woods and friends.

Cruel....

I believe what the Dog Whisperer Cesar said, dogs live in the present moment and enjoy life in the NOW.

Also the ticks who carry Lyme are rare in Florida unlike the Hudson Valley and that's a good thing.

CFrance 04-07-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by duffysmom (Post 655665)
Cruel....

I believe what the Dog Whisperer Cesar said, dogs live in the present moment and enjoy life in the NOW.

Also the ticks who carry Lyme are rare in Florida unlike the Hudson Valley and that's a good thing.

Not to mention there's Lyme tick protection available for dogs.

duffysmom 04-07-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 655670)
Not to mention there's Lyme tick protection available for dogs.

True but unfortunately it is a difficult diagnosis in humans and causes severe medical problems and freqently you never see the bite or tick. The Hudson Valley is a mecca for Lyme.

On topic you will find many happy dog owners here from all over the country.

CFrance 04-07-2013 05:07 PM

I know that, Duffysmom. I was just responding about dogs picking it up.

On another note... anyone wanting to read a description of what Lyme disease can do to a person should read Amy Tan's biography (author of The Joy Luck Club), The Opposite of Fate: A Book of Musings. She has suffered through this disease, and the story is astonishing.

msendo 04-07-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 655577)
msendo - don't take things personally - sometimes we have folks that love to stir the pot. As you can tell from the majority of the posts we love our fur kids and wouldn't leave them behind and do everything in our power to make their adjustment as easy as can be. And then share some icecream with them (this comes up 'cause it drives some folks crazy that people share their ice cream with a dog, or take them for a walk in a dog stroller, or bring their dogs to the square - even if the dog is not a problem. We use to go to the McDonalds drive thru and buy our Great Dane a burger that he would take bites of, just like you or I)!

Sorry,
Didn't mean to sound so serious. I've heard great things today. On a lighter note,
Augie and Monkey have had their share of Mc Donalds. But as I've said before, they love love love pizza. Seriously?! A German Shepard named MONKEY! You bet.

redwitch 04-07-2013 07:58 PM

Sorry, gotta say it -- I'd be a high maintenance dog, too, if my name was Monkey. Your poor Alsatian. ;-)

Schaumburger 04-08-2013 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by msendo (Post 655722)
Sorry,
Didn't mean to sound so serious. I've heard great things today. On a lighter note,
Augie and Monkey have had their share of Mc Donalds. But as I've said before, they love love love pizza. Seriously?! A German Shepard named MONKEY! You bet.

Augie and Monkey -- love those names. If you ever visit Chicago, buy Augie and Monkey some Lou Malnati's pizza -- it is like heaven. I hope all of you will be very happy in The Villages once you move there. Keep us posted on your house hunting plans :wave:

casita37 04-08-2013 09:36 AM

If I had it to do over, I would not have brought our dog to TV.

We had a small dog and a cat. The dog was pretty much a lap dog, with a love me, love me, demeanor. Never met a stranger, and everyone loved him. Our cat was, and is, high maintenance. We had to warn visitors not to pet her or ever get too close. Both pets had free run of a large fenced yard, in a very warm climate. The cat could actually flatfoot the fence and go off wandering the neighborhood, causing terror amoung the other cats in the area.

We worried so much about how the cat would adjust to TV and being an inside cat. We never gave a thought to how the dog would adjust. After all, he would be with us, and that was all that ever mattered to him. Well....we sure got that one WRONG!

We had pre-shipped the little bit we brought with us, and the house was not bare, but starting to look like no one lived there. We could see the anxiety mounting in the dog, but still....he was with us. On moving day, with our final luggage sitting in the middle of the living room, as we put him into his carrier to go to the airport (where he traveled in the cabin with us), he had, as the Vet put it, an "event". We don't know if it was a stroke or a nervous/mental breakdown, but he starting barking and whining. We had tried to travel without tranquilizers, but during a plane change, we finally drugged him. Did no good. I held him in my lap for the entire flight, while he whined. I must say a giant thank you to the flight staff and fellow passengers on AA that day. They did not say a word or give us dirty looks. Everyone was very understanding.

Long story short.....and lots of vet visits and various medications....our little buddy did not survive. His little heart just gave out from the anxiety. He was about 16 years old and had congenital heart disease. He had just a few months here, where he refused to go to the bathroom outside, with walks hourly, including over-night. It was too cold for him, and he would not walk, or go, on the grass. If one of us was not holding him, he was barking. We took turns staying up with him at night.

@ paulandjean, I don't find your suggestion offensive, at all. Sometimes making the tough decisions come from love. I would have either stayed where we were for a few more years or left him behind with friends. Like I said....everyone loved him. We just didn't know and made the wrong choice based on what we assumed. What else can you do?

On a brighter note....the cat has adjusted better than we ever thought even possible. She even makes friends with visitors, although we still warn not to get too cozy. She doesn't seem to have an interest in going outside. She enjoys the lanai and just surveying the neighborhood from her warm perch.

Not meaning to discourage the OP from bringing their dogs. Of course, bring them!! They will not only have you, they will have each other.

Just another side of the story.....

Barefoot 04-08-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by casita37 (Post 655984)

If I had it to do over, I would not have brought our dog to TV. Long story short.....and lots of vet visits and various medications....our little buddy did not survive. His little heart just gave out from the anxiety. He was about 16years old and had congenital heart disease.

I'm very sorry to hear your sad story, and that you ended up losing your dog. You sound like great pet parents. However I did have one thought. It's quite possible that the end result would have been the same if you had left your dog behind. He possibly would have experienced terrible separation anxiety as he obviously loved you very much. I think you did the right thing for him.

paulandjean 04-08-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by casita37 (Post 655984)
If I had it to do over, I would not have brought our dog to TV.

We had a small dog and a cat. The dog was pretty much a lap dog, with a love me, love me, demeanor. Never met a stranger, and everyone loved him. Our cat was, and is, high maintenance. We had to warn visitors not to pet her or ever get too close. Both pets had free run of a large fenced yard, in a very warm climate. The cat could actually flatfoot the fence and go off wandering the neighborhood, causing terror amoung the other cats in the area.

We worried so much about how the cat would adjust to TV and being an inside cat. We never gave a thought to how the dog would adjust. After all, he would be with us, and that was all that ever mattered to him. Well....we sure got that one WRONG!

We had pre-shipped the little bit we brought with us, and the house was not bare, but starting to look like no one lived there. We could see the anxiety mounting in the dog, but still....he was with us. On moving day, with our final luggage sitting in the middle of the living room, as we put him into his carrier to go to the airport (where he traveled in the cabin with us), he had, as the Vet put it, an "event". We don't know if it was a stroke or a nervous/mental breakdown, but he starting barking and whining. We had tried to travel without tranquilizers, but during a plane change, we finally drugged him. Did no good. I held him in my lap for the entire flight, while he whined. I must say a giant thank you to the flight staff and fellow passengers on AA that day. They did not say a word or give us dirty looks. Everyone was very understanding.

Long story short.....and lots of vet visits and various medications....our little buddy did not survive. His little heart just gave out from the anxiety. He was about 16 years old and had congenital heart disease. He had just a few months here, where he refused to go to the bathroom outside, with walks hourly, including over-night. It was too cold for him, and he would not walk, or go, on the grass. If one of us was not holding him, he was barking. We took turns staying up with him at night.

@ paulandjean, I don't find your suggestion offensive, at all. Sometimes making the tough decisions come from love. I would have either stayed where we were for a few more years or left him behind with friends. Like I said....everyone loved him. We just didn't know and made the wrong choice based on what we assumed. What else can you do?

On a brighter note....the cat has adjusted better than we ever thought even possible. She even makes friends with visitors, although we still warn not to get too cozy. She doesn't seem to have an interest in going outside. She enjoys the lanai and just surveying the neighborhood from her warm perch.

Not meaning to discourage the OP from bringing their dogs. Of course, bring them!! They will not only have you, they will have each other.

Just another side of the story.....

Thank You very much............

CFrance 04-08-2013 02:22 PM

Yes, Bare makes a good point, Casita. Also, since your little one was up there in years, you may be right about not making a big move with him. You did what you thought was right, and I'm so sorry for what happened. You must have been heartsick.

duffysmom 04-08-2013 04:44 PM

Casita my Duffy (avatar) loved to ride in the cart and was generally a good natured happy dog. Several months before we had to say goodbye to Duffy he began to shake and whine when we tried to take him outside, it was so bad that he never went outside again. It was clear that he was suffering and his body was shuting down. Now that I look back I can see that he was unable to cope with leaving his safe place. I'm glad that your warrior cat is happy and hasn't missed his need to patrol the neighborhood. You sound like a caring and loving person.


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