Concealed Weapons Permit Course
 

I just completed my concealed weapons course for the state of Florida. I looked into several different courses and finally decided upon Paul "Mac" McIntyre who runs The Right Training. It was an eight hour course for the inexperienced shooter. Over six hours in the classroom and about an hour at the range followed by a test back at the classroom. I learned a great deal. There are courses for the experienced and inexperienced. Courses for women only taught by a female instructor. Anyone you would be vaguely interested should check out the website The RightTraining.co

I was so impressed the the entire process I felt compelled to let others of the great course that was available to those who were interested.

Glad that you found a good class and instructor for your concealed carry permit. That is very important.

Could you enlighten all the readers on what inspired you to get a concealed carry permit and if you feel the need to carry a pistol in The Villages at any time?

Perhaps this is why.

https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm

I must admit I feel better knowing that six hours of classroom and about an hour at a range "qualifies" an inexperienced person to get a concealed weapon permit.

"Guns Save Lives", that's the title of the article that you linked. Yet we constantly hear from the NRA & their loyal followers that "Guns don't kill people, people kill people". Ok, so guns can save lives, but they can't take lives? How exactly does that work?

I'm confused. Please explain.

I don't have a gun and don't want one.

There are many that say I am safe only because they do own a gun and live here near me.

I know this subject is a hornets nest.

The only people I knew growing up who owned guns were hunters.

It is only since moving here that I met anyone who felt they needed a gun for other uses.

I grew up on a farm where loaded guns were a way of life.
I spent 22 years in the Army where guns were a way of life.


I now live in The Villages with lots of older, slower thinking seniors that if they carry a loaded gun:

You could end that sentence with a lot of words, but none would be very nice to say on TOTV.

you have actually had someone in TV say THAT to you? Were you able to keep a straight face?

No need to explain WHY Most of us know why so glad my son who lives in Boston had his gun on him the day they could not find the terrorist!! What if he had been in his home. congratulations!!! Check out the villages gun club. great club

PS ANOTHER GOOD REASON when they post (as they did in NY) who owns and who doesn't own a gun, whose house do you think the criminal will target?? Good job on making a smart decision !!

Well my response to that is that in 73 years I have not personally needed one and no one in my family or circle of friends have needed one and that there is a fine line between being prepared and being over prepared.

I support the right to bear arms so if you think you need them, go right ahead. It's in the Constitution.

I just have tried to avoid living in areas where I think I need a gun to be safe. I still feel that way here in TV.

It takes all kinds and all views to make up this world.

If and when I think I need a gun, I will get one and learn how to use it.

But for now, I'm good.

I lived in NYC for my entire life before moving to TV. In my entire lifetime there, I never knew anyone who had guns or carried one around with them. For many years NYC had it's problems with crime - the 60's through the 80's. It was considered by many as a dangerous place to live (although I never felt that way). Even with all that, no one I knew ever felt he need to carry a gun. We just do not have that mentality. I was shocked :shocked: when I first learned that here in Florida people walked around carrying concealed weapons. I must say that information gave me a moment of pause. I felt unsafe with the thought of people sitting around in the squares in the evening drinking alcohol and carrying guns. I got over it though. I still do not like the idea but I rarely think about it anymore.

I am sure that the individuals who feel the need to carry a gun would not understand my views on this, just as I do not understand their need to carry a gun.

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

hi gracie i understand if you don't feel you need one. We all make our own decisions. I carry mine when I'm outside the villages ever since the movie theater shootings. I'd rather be safe than sorry. and if your in the theater and a shooting does occur you'd probably rather be sitting next to me than those who don't believe in carry. We live in a new world now. It's not the same and I think everyone is intelligent to know that.

okey dokey

A question about Florida law regarding this thread. IF you purchase a handgun for home protection or to take to a range and shoot but DO NOT intend to carry it around with you do you need a CCW permit?

I too grew up in NYC where you had to be pretty oblivious to NOT realize that you were constantly walking amongst armed people. Since it was and is difficult to get a CCW in NYC, most people did not discuss or admit to concealed weapons as what they were doing was taking an illegal risk to protect themselves against possible attack!
I don't necessarily agree with that but I see no harm in having a ccw...I do, that doesn't mean I carry a weapon in the Villages...you have a driver's license, do you stay in your car?

no you dont need a CCW for those uses. You would transport it unloaded in a case locked in a safe position.

I lived un Upstate NY a good part of my life. To be fair..getting a CCW permit anywhere in NYS practically requires an act of God. It's not easy to get one, so even if you felt the NEED to carry one, it's very hard to get the permit in the first place.

Here we go again, the OP was offering some good advice on obtaining a CCW permit. he did the research and told us about it. Isn't that what this site is about, the exchange of ideas and information? Instead he gets flamed. Thank you villavillager for your post. You can also look into the local gun club, here is a link Cool Gun Club.

One last thing, I rather see someone take the time to be trained on gun safety then just go to a shop, buy a gun and not take training.

I am a lot more afraid of seniors with cars than with guns.

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Not a good idea. You should always get training if you wish to own a firearm but to answer your question, no you do not need a CCW permit.

I'd prefer to choose my seat in the NO CCW section, thank you very much. The absolute last place I would want to be is right next to someone engaged in a gunfight.

I realize we live in a new world now. Unfortunately it's a world filled with guns, and I still believe I'm better off without one.

This is where the gun club that meets in the villages is very helpful. They meet first Friday night of month. They can answer all your questions as there are many rules and regulations on gun carry.

I am also more afraid of seniors with cars than with guns and there are a lot more of them!

Good luck when the "sick" one or terrorist comes in and starts shooting. Maybe you can "pray or ask them not to shoot you. We live in a new world and when people stop trying to pretend we don't and wake up, maybe we can change it, IF not too late. I'll take my chances and protect my family or die trying if I have to before I give in.

There have been many replies but no post from the OP of whom I asked, "Could you enlighten all the readers on what inspired you to get a concealed carry permit and if you feel the need to carry a pistol in The Villages at any time?"

This was not flaming by any means but merely a question. If a person legally wants to own a gun or CCW, that is their right to do so. I only was trying to figure out why anyone would feel the need to carry a pistol in The Villages at any time.

There were some replies about outside of The Villages. There were some negative feelings about carrying a pistol at the town squares. Naturally, all know that carrying a pistol in a bar or bar area of a restaurant is illegal and will get you carted off by the police.

One poster wrote, "and if your in the theater and a shooting does occur you'd probably rather be sitting next to me than those who don't believe in carry." I would like to reply to that by saying in a very high stress situation like that - in a darkened theater - do you honestly think you would have been able to hit the Colorado shooter in a vulnerable place since he had on body armor? You only would have succeeded in drawing his fire to your area.

One poster wrote, "and if your in the theater and a shooting does occur you'd probably rather be sitting next to me than those who don't believe in carry." I would like to reply to that by saying in a very high stress situation like that - in a darkened theater - do you honestly think you would have been able to hit the Colorado shooter in a vulnerable place since he had on body armor? You only would have succeeded in drawing his fire to your area.

Not if he was dead. There is no body armor for the head.

I will answer or thought I did because I also have a CCW. I do not feel the need to carry in the villages but WHY would you assume I don't feel the need to carry OUTSIDE the villages?? And I do feel a need to have a gun in the home as seniors can be more of a target than an average person figuring we are defenseless. The world has changed as we all know. No longer can you take for granted you are safe anywhere you go. And like the mother who (thank God had a gun in her home) she protected her kids from being killed. As the burglar broke into her home while she was home ALONE with her kids, she found her gun, hide in the crawl space and the perp ramsacked her home but kept on looking for her. She was on the phone with her husband and 911 at the time. Her husband told her "remember what I taught you" As the perp opened the door and saw her she shoot again and again. If she had not, she may have been raped, her kids killed but thank God she was trained and had her gun. A mom protecting her children. What parent would NOT do that??? And the kicker is she ran out of bullets and he still was NOT dead so limiting our bullets doesn't work. What if there had been TWO PERPS and she ran out of ammo?? Now tell me you would NOT protect your children if in this situation or would you have just thought you could plead with him NOT to hurt you?? That is why we feel the need to carry!! Self - protection in this NEW WORLD we live in. No other reason

Actually I am well trained in firearms. My father was a life member of the NRA and a gun collector. I was taught respect for guns at an early age. He and my grandfathers all hunted and we all owned long guns. During a couple of summers I spent some time at a camp where I won several awards for competition shooting. I had my hunter's safety class taught by IBM for employees and their families when I was 12.

The reason I asked the question in the first place is that in NYS you can buy a handgun but by legal technicality you cannot even take it out of the store to take home unless you have a CCW permit. That's why I wanted to know what the FL law says.

Finally, I agree with you. If you are going to buy a gun..ANY..gun..you should have adequate training prior to buying one.

I guess we just traveled in different circles. I am sure that is your reality but it wasn't mine. Like minded people seem to travel together. That being said you are entitled to your opinion.

FIRST DO NO HARM. THERE IS A PARADOX TO THAT STATEMENT. WHEN YOU KNOW THE FINAL OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE BAD (SUCH AS MOVIE THEATER SHOOTINGS, ETC...) THEN DOING NOTHING WILL CAUSE MORE HARM. (LIKE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH A TERRORIST!!)

GOOD LUCK TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO DO NOTHING. FOR MYSELF ( A MOTHER) I CHOOSE TO PROTECT MY CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. NO ONE WILL HARM THEM AS LONG AS I'M ALIVE.

GOOD LUCK TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE THE PASSIVE CHOICE. :police:

I saw a report on TV that indicated a lot of NY'ers were getting gun permits via the mail from Florida since it is so easy to get on there.

Nyers have to come down here to get a large big gulp too!!!:cryin2:

And isn't it comforting to know that no wife-beater, child molester, terrorist, sex offender, or other felon is going to be denied the right to buy a gun by some pesky background check?

Al Queda is advertising to it's members, buy your guns in the USA since there is no background check.

Florida also has the distinction of being a "right to kill" state by virtue of the stand your ground law. Is this a great country or what?

Can you explain your statement? Even if you have a FL out of state CCW permit you still cannot carry in NY.

Where did you read about Al Qaeda's advertisement? I don't really expect an answer and yes, this IS a great country.

There is a background check done when you buy a firearm from a dealer just not a gun show which is something I don't agree with. Background checks should be done whenever or where ever a firearm is purchased IMHO.

Yippie-Kai-yay

everytime I see the phrase "need to carry in TV" it always reminds me of two things. One is it is a trick question. And secondly the person asking does not understand and most likely will not unsdrerstand or just won't undersatand the concept of concealed carry.

Does a police man need to carry a weapon in TV? By some the answer would be no. If that were the case should they remove their weapon when they are in TV? Or if they are assigned a patrol in TV do not take a weapon in the first place?

Non gun enthusiasts and especially anti gun advocates do not have the ability to understand. Doesn't mean they are wrong....they are just not able to, hence they tend to intellectualize the subject.

As presented many many times before, think of it as insurance. Some buy it, some don't. Some buy a lot and some a little. Some cover everything and others just need the basic coverages. There is no way to convince any one of them for the decision they made regarding whether to insure, how much to insure and where to insure. Based on some statistics for some incidents there is no need for insurance but folks still buy it.....JUST IN CASE.

JUST IN CASE......JUST IN CASE .....the very reason law enforcement carries a weapon regardless where they are......the very same reason some choose to carry a concealed weapon....If one cannot grasp or acknowledge that premise/concept.....all the jawboning is a waste of time.

It would do well for some to go take the Concelaed weapons course to do nothing more than gain an understanding of all that is taught about carrying a weapon.

I do like the one post above about the more dangerous residents being the ones behind the wheel here in TV....so very right and so much more potentially dangerous to us all than those with a CCWP.

Wait a minute.....:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:....OK now I am set!!

btk

Hard to get answers to these questions.
 

Since there seems to be two “sides” in this thread, I suspect that I will not be able to get accurate answers to these questions—from either side—including from the recommended website. However, these are questions that I am left with, which are only in relation to the instructional program and based only on this OP, not any of the “debate” that follows:

1. Does a six-hour classroom course plus an hour on the range (presumably practicing shooting) followed by an exam qualify an “inexperienced shooter” to actually be in a position where he or she might need (or “feel the need”) to use a concealed weapon?

2. What are the differences between a course for an “inexperienced shooter” and one for an “experienced shooter”? Is the first course longer in classroom time than the second? What is the experienced shooter learning that the inexperienced shooter is not? And since what the experienced shooter is learning must be valuable, then why not simply have one course so that everyone prepared to use a concealed weapon learns the same things?

3. Why are “courses for women only taught by a female instructor”? Are there gender differences in the instruction or in the application of what is taught? If so, what are they?