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Heartnsoul 04-23-2013 11:32 AM

Latest on bombing suspects
 
latest theory (if you believe media) these guys had no connection with Islamist terrorist groups. Where did they get the Money for all this?? hmmm What's the point of saying no one helped them?? Do you realize the photo they are showing of suspect no 2 is when he was 14?? They want you to believe he was a normal american mixed up kid. Normal - driving around in Porsche, not liking america. Why do we take what is truth and reality and try to hide from it??

And most importantly where is the Saudi National?? Sent back to his country?? WHY??? I called my congressman and told him to get on this immediately. More than 2 were involved.

Patty55 04-23-2013 11:40 AM

What Saudi National? Have I missed something?

chuckinca 04-23-2013 11:51 AM

What Porsche?

Pic of No 2 with white baseball hat was taken at the bombing scene.

What did your congressman say?

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BarryRX 04-23-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Heartnsoul (Post 664861)
latest theory (if you believe media) these guys had no connection with Islamist terrorist groups. Where did they get the Money for all this?? hmmm What's the point of saying no one helped them?? Do you realize the photo they are showing of suspect no 2 is when he was 14?? They want you to believe he was a normal american mixed up kid. Normal - driving around in Porsche, not liking america. Why do we take what is truth and reality and try to hide from it??

And most importantly where is the Saudi National?? Sent back to his country?? WHY??? I called my congressman and told him to get on this immediately. More than 2 were involved.

Huh???

graciegirl 04-23-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 664882)
Huh???


Well said.

wendyquat 04-23-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 664870)
What Saudi National? Have I missed something?

If you missed this, you missed a lot! Lots of unanswered questions on this one!

wendyquat 04-23-2013 12:30 PM

Lets face it, you really can't get into this conversation without violating the "P" prohibition! You won't hear much truth about all this on the "alphabet stations"!
To each his own!

paulandjean 04-23-2013 12:36 PM

Welcome to the villages! Rumors, Rumors,Rumors.....................

Heartnsoul 04-23-2013 01:35 PM

I do have FACTS and not rumors however due to the rule we are NOT allowed to discuss politics you will have to research yourself. Just wanted you to know more to the story than the media will release. And yes Patty you did miss something if you don't know what is going on. I wish I could inform you of what truly is transpiring.

Just wanted to give update on the other one involved, the Saudi who is being transported back to his country today.

KayakerNC 04-23-2013 01:42 PM

Glenn Beck's "facts" sometimes don't match up to the real world. A few grains of salt are in order.:shrug:

gomoho 04-23-2013 01:42 PM

I think the Saudi is the first person they thought was involved, that somehow ended up in the hospital, but is now being deported??? Been out all morning so not up to date on the current happenings.

graciegirl 04-23-2013 02:13 PM

He was looked at. He was hurt in the bombing. See what CNN says.
 
Confusion over Saudis in Boston following marathon attack – The Lead with Jake Tapper - CNN.com Blogs

Patty55 04-23-2013 02:23 PM

Evidently he had a student visa for Findlay and an apartment in Boston. I guess that violate his visa.

tucson 04-23-2013 03:03 PM

[QUOTE=Heartnsoul;664861]latest theory (if you believe media) these guys had no connection with Islamist terrorist groups. Where did they get the Money for all this?? hmmm What's the point of saying no one helped them?? Do you realize the photo they are showing of suspect no 2 is when he was 14?? They want you to believe he was a normal american mixed up kid. Normal - driving around in Porsche, not liking america. Why do we take what is truth and reality and try to hide from it??

And most importantly where is the Saudi National?? Sent back to his country?? WHY??? I called my congressman and told him to get on this immediately. More than 2 were involved.
I believe this to be true. After 9/11, 13 members of Bin Laden's family were allowed to leave the country also. If anyone does not remember they flew out of Boston's Logan Airport, where most of them lived at the time. If one doesn't believe this , you can read about the Bin Laden family on Wikipedia.

tucson 04-23-2013 03:17 PM

Steve Emerson is the one that broke this news on Hannity 2 days after last Mon. bombing, not G.Beck. Glenn Beck was repeating the story. Steve Emerson is an expert on terrorism and got this true info from someone from ICE. You can read the details on Wikipedia's Steven Emerson pg.

In awe of TV 04-23-2013 03:27 PM

It's an ongoing investigation. Do you think all the 'facts' are going to be released? Do you think you'll ever know the 'facts'?

I think TOO much is revealed in the news. I believe it makes for copycat idiots wanting their names in the papers. Who knew about pressure cooker bombs? I read an article about how to make them! Seriously now!

I kinda have faith in the FBI getting all the facts. I really don't need to know them as I will not understand the motive behind this senseless bombing or any type of radical violence for that matter.

Report back on what your congressman's response. I'm sure he knows all the facts. (Being sarcastic)

gomoho 04-23-2013 03:43 PM

I don't see how it is POLITICAL to ? how they could determine so early on these brothers were acting on their own. Has nothing to do with being red or blue, but about protecting our country and curious as to how the investigation is proceeding. If this isn't something that affects all of us I don't know what does.

Personally I want all the facts I can get and I definitely want to be reassured the FBI didn't screw up again. Makes me a little nervous 'cause I always believed they were the end all be all of law enforcement. So yes, I need the facts and to not want to know is burying your head in the sand and blindly trusting. Can't go down that road personally.

BarryRX 04-23-2013 04:10 PM

I can straighten this out for everyone. It is obviously a massive conspiracy involving thousands of police, FBI, and homeland security. The bombings never really did happen...they were staged in a tv studio like the moon landings were. Also, there was another terrorist standing on the grassy knoll. Not only were Chechnyans involved, but also folks from the Czech Republic who were probably eating chex mix. As to the question "where did they get the money for this", I heard that Some rich Saudis sent them the twenty bucks to buy a pressure cooker. Now, here is what I really suggest. There are people right here in TV who are still suffering enormous pain because of this. For at least another couple of days, why doesn't everybody just cool your jets.

Heartnsoul 04-23-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by quirky3 (Post 664980)
Here's a logical question for you - why keep trying to post political topics on a site that has a policy against that?

Guess I just like discussing REALITY and what is going on in the world that will not ONLY affect us but certainly will our children and grandchildren Some intellectual stimulation and updates on the bombings that yes did take place by Radical Muslims. (yes current events) I'm done posting on this topic though. I'll get back to the more important issues.

Patty55 04-23-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tucson (Post 665011)
I believe this to be true. After 9/11, 13 members of Bin Laden's family were allowed to leave the country also. If anyone does not remember they flew out of Boston's Logan Airport, where most of them lived at the time. If one doesn't believe this , you can read about the Bin Laden family on Wikipedia.

You do know that Wikipedia is not always accurate.

graciegirl 04-23-2013 06:36 PM

Now on tonight's news on CNN they are discussing a triple murder of a man called Brendan Mess, a close friend of the older bomber. He and two others were murdered by having their throats cut eighteen months ago.. Five thousand dollars was at the scene so the motive wasn't robbery and the last person to have seen Brendan Mess alive was Tamaran, the dead bomber. (I can't spell his name) Brendan was a fitness person and could not have been easily overpowered. Their murders were thought to be by more than one person, and by someone who knew them.

These murders have not been solved, They were killed on the tenth anniversary of nine eleven in Waltham(?) Mass. September 11, 2011.

Tamaran did not go to this man, his friends funeral and..........Three months after the murders, Tamaran left for Russia.
murder of brendan mess - Bing News

billethkid 04-23-2013 06:39 PM

does any warm blooded, breathing, lucid person believe for one minute they were acting alone? Of course not.

Does anyone really believe the killer radical in the hospital is telling the truth when he says they acted alone.? Of course not.

Before this case is all said and done, the legal system will have the killer in custody cleaned up looking like a choir boy who was led astray. That he was brain washed and really not responsible for his actions. Anybody wanna bet?

btk

graciegirl 04-23-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 665176)
does any warm blooded, breathing, lucid person believe for one minute they were acting alone? Of course not.

Does anyone really believe the killer radical in the hospital is telling the truth when he says they acted alone.? Of course not.

Before this case is all said and done, the legal system will have the killer in custody cleaned up looking like a choir boy who was led astray. That he was brain washed and really not responsible for his actions. Anybody wanna bet?

btk

No. The American people will not stand for that. I don't know if there were more involved with the actual bombings, but someone influenced them.

They look like kids, but they are evil people.

tucson 04-23-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 665168)
You do know that Wikipedia is not always accurate.

This story IS accurate. I lived in Ma. at the time and remember the Bin Laden - Boston story in the news, it happened right after the bombing of the Twin Towers 9/11!! (GW Bush allowed them to leave Boston's Logan Airport) So unfortunately, history is repeating itself again!

billethkid 04-23-2013 06:47 PM

evil indeed.

btk

gomoho 04-23-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 665172)
Now on tonight's news on CNN they are discussing a triple murder of a man called Brendan Mess, a close friend of the older bomber. He and two others were murdered by having their throats cut eighteen months ago.. Five thousand dollars was at the scene so the motive wasn't robbery and the last person to have seen Brendan Mess alive was Tamaran, the dead bomber. (I can't spell his name) Brendan was a fitness person and could not have been easily overpowered. Their murders were thought to be by more than one person, and by someone who knew them.

These murders have not been solved, They were killed on the tenth anniversary of nine eleven in Waltham(?) Mass. September 11, 2011.

Tamaran did not go to this man, his friends funeral and..........Three months after the murders, Tamaran left for Russia.
murder of brendan mess - Bing News

Does anyone remember this murder - actually I think I heard there were 3 people killed in this assault - can't believe I don't remember any reports of this. Very strange - throats slit and marijuana sprinkled on their bodies..

Bosoxfan 04-23-2013 07:52 PM

I don't believe they were bankrolled by anyone. If that were the case then why did they have to rob a 711?

senior citizen 04-23-2013 09:20 PM

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gomoho 04-24-2013 07:09 AM

Senior Citizen - my question was if anyone remembered hearing about these 3 bizarre murders when the occurred in 2011? In this age of instant news seems that certainly would have reported on this, but I don't recall it at all, but maybe I was out of the loop so wondering if anyone else remembered back from 2011.

senior citizen 04-24-2013 07:19 AM

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tucson 04-24-2013 07:22 AM

There's a HUGE story on all of this that is NOT being reported. fyi-"beforeitsthe news.com"

Heartnsoul 04-24-2013 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 665176)
does any warm blooded, breathing, lucid person believe for one minute they were acting alone? Of course not.

Does anyone really believe the killer radical in the hospital is telling the truth when he says they acted alone.? Of course not.

Before this case is all said and done, the legal system will have the killer in custody cleaned up looking like a choir boy who was led astray. That he was brain washed and really not responsible for his actions. Anybody wanna bet?

btk

I'm with you Bill. Of course he will say he acted alone. That is why they should be treating him like an "enemy combative" instead of using our court system. I don't for a minute think these guys acted ALONE. The Saudi that was sent back is very suspicious. Something going on there however Americans don't demand answers. This is the Third TERRORIST attack since 9/11. When is enough enough??? These guys are hardcore Radical Muslims.

AriaGrandparents2013 04-24-2013 07:33 AM

Least news up here in Massachusetts is that Suspects were on welfare/public assistance so we (the taxpayers) funded these acts of terror. Go figure.

senior citizen 04-24-2013 07:36 AM

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AriaGrandparents2013 04-24-2013 07:45 AM

Oh forgot to mention that parents of Suspects who are now in Russia were on welfare/public assistance as well before returning to Russia.

I have a compelling question that I can't seem to find an appropriate explanation and that is this family came to the United States of American seeking politic asylum as they were facing persecution and accordingly allowed to immigrate to the USA...........so now what has change over in their Russian homeland that compels them to return to Russia? Just wondering?

Golfer in Sanibel 04-24-2013 08:09 AM

A question which bothers me is how did they get their hands on "military grade explosives" as reported many times by the media. I haven't seen C-5 for sale at Home Depot or 7-11.

graciegirl 04-24-2013 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Heartnsoul (Post 665444)
The mother of the boys was living off us also and STEALING from stores.

Yes I heard that from a reliable news source. She was shoplifting...and maybe that is the reason they went back "home".

And of course, that young bomber will have all of his medical expenses covered while the victims with missing limbs and other horrible injuries will have to worry about the medical bills.

It just isn't right.

blueash 04-24-2013 08:31 AM

Eric Rudolph is the terrorist who planted a bomb at the Atlanta Olympics which is a very parallel crime to this one. He subscribed to a religion which while in most adherents is a religion of peace and love but where there are also extreme sects which believe they have the true vision and inspire their followers to act against the wicked doctrines embodied in the US government. He was caught after a very long manhunt and several more bombings of innocent Americans. He was praised for his actions by several groups. When finally captured he was Mirandized and brought for trial in a open court giving him all the rights of a US citizen accused of a crime.

So yes an individual can be a lone wolf terrorist. Nothing these two did required any significant amount of money or frankly much skill, just willingness to act. The fact that they had no escape plan speaks volumes to the lack of insightful planning. Before everyone gets all conspiracy international support crazy, just wait and let the government finish its investigation. And while we mourn the loss of 4 lives in Boston due to the actions of these brothers, please also keep in your thoughts the 15 killed and 200 injured in West, Texas due to the actions of an American corporation which seemingly disregarded safety and ignored regulations which should have kept all those first responders and neighbors and workers safe. The bomb that went off in Texas was bigger, killed more and injured more than the one in Boston and it is lost in the news

graciegirl 04-24-2013 08:44 AM

Things may change, but I don't see anything at the moment to make me think it is part of a large scale plan.

We all know that Muslim extremists are taught we are infidels and that we need to die. Us..non Muslims.

I feel that there is more known maybe than what we know, and that is fine with me. I feel that the U.S. is doing everything in it's power to find out all of the details and to protect all of us and the world too.

I want to wish for some simple solution, like ...throw them all out, send them home etc, simply because I am very sad, very angry and frightened too. But I know it isn't that simple.

I think if we are patient, all of the truth will be uncovered. And hopefully justice will be served. We can worry, we can think, we can blame and we can speculate but we don't know.

And we don't need to make it any worse yet. God knows it is BAD ENOUGH and justice is screaming to be served.

gomoho 04-24-2013 09:11 AM

The bomb that went off in Texas was bigger, killed more and injured more than the one in Boston and it is lost in the news[/QUOTE]

That was a terrible tragedy that happened in Texas and those victims should be in our prayers; however, the Texas incident was an accident not an attack which explains why the Boston coverage has overshadowed Texas.


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