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Bizdoc 07-02-2013 02:49 PM
Stupid is as stupid does
 
Just came back from Publix at Colony. Headed south on the Morse cart path from 466A toward Sanibel gate when I saw a black SUV headed up the path. He apparently figured it out when the track divided.

After he managed to turn around, he went tearing back toward Sanibel gate yelling at carts to get out of his way.

Given that you have to make a greater than 90 degree turn to get on the path headed north, got to wonder.

Forrest was right.

rubicon 07-02-2013 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bizdoc (Post 701642)
Just came back from Publix at Colony. Headed south on the Morse cart path from 466A toward Sanibel gate when I saw a black SUV headed up the path. He apparently figured it out when the track divided.

After he managed to turn around, he went tearing back toward Sanibel gate yelling at carts to get out of his way.

Given that you have to make a greater than 90 degree turn to get on the path headed north, got to wonder.

Forrest was right.
Bizdoc Believe it or not its a common occurrence. It may be cost effective if TV invests in warning signs on the pathways because it isn't working at each of the paths entrances

Duvalboomer 07-02-2013 03:00 PM
Seen it a few times on a few different paths

Serenoa 07-02-2013 03:07 PM
It boggles the mind how ANYONE could confuse a cart path for a street. Duh!

Isn't there always a center post where the path meets the street that they would have to run over to get on the cart path?

KayakerNC 07-02-2013 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 701649)
Bizdoc Believe it or not its a common occurrence. It may be cost effective if TV invests in warning signs on the pathways because it isn't working at each of the paths entrances
If they can't tell a road from a path, I really wouldn't put much confidence in their reading skills either.

kittygilchrist 07-02-2013 04:35 PM
what I enjoy is watching a cart driver in front of me while I'm in the car, he's waving his left arm around and I think he's turning, but he's just telling the passenger about the landscaping job he sees over there.

then there are cart drivers who are perfectly in the cart lane to my right and SWERVE suddenly way out in front of me. why? lawn sprinkler...:faint:

queasy27 07-02-2013 05:38 PM
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It boggles the mind how ANYONE could confuse a cart path for a street.
Vision problems, poor depth perception, inattentiveness, transient ischemic attack, alcohol, etc. I know two people who ended up on a multi-modal path in their cars and had no idea how they got there after they "came to."

As always, drive defensively!

asianthree 07-02-2013 07:58 PM
i would blame it on summer but it happens any time...

gomoho 07-02-2013 08:03 PM
I am guessing a lot of it is not paying attention because this afternoon I almost made a left on the cart path off O'Dell 'cause I was thinking about something else and had recently gone that way in my golf cart. The good news was "I almost" did it but realized the error of my ways. I can understand how this happens. :22yikes:

dsned 07-02-2013 08:30 PM
After spends a lot of time in my cart, I have in the past drove in the cart lane on a road, but not for very long!! have seen others do this too.

njbchbum 07-02-2013 08:34 PM
guess it wasn't a snowbird! ;)

ijusluvit 07-02-2013 09:05 PM
I wish the author of this thread had not used such a harsh descriptor to describe this behavior. And it looks more a more like 'Stupid!' has become the standard TV descriptor for any less than perfect action by anyone.

Let's take a breath folks, and realize that for us, this is the 'new normal'. We recently came from places where a greater percentage of the population is more coordinated, capable and less impaired. Oh sure, there is a lot of 'stupid' outside the bubble, but less than here. Did you know that fully 40% of the TV population has a stage one or higher level of some cancer? Some of them drive on treatment and fatigue days, most with no doctors advising against it. Then there are literally thousands more afflicted with other ailments and natural impairments afflicting us as we age. Together I'm suggesting these wonderful people make up the MAJORITY of the TV population, and I am not even counting those who voluntarily impair themselves occasionally or regularly.

Are you willing to give up driving your car and then your cart when you have some problems or close calls you realize you shouldn't have had, or probably wouldn't have had 10 years ago? Probably not, if you are like most people. We don't want to think about that and it's NORMAL that this is one of the last decisions we are willing to make.

So lets concentrate a little more on the real circumstances in which we now live. We love the beauty, enthusiasm and activity here, but the flip-side is that we are all aging and becoming more impaired at a rate we've never experienced before. It's not pretty, but if we can learn to accept it we will be a lot better off. I believe we can even be happy as we feel ourselves aging.

Let's understand this about ourselves and others and extend this understanding to others by expressing more tolerance.

Practicing tolerance can even help us. It lessens the confusion, frustration and embarrassment when we make our own mistakes.

mainlander 07-02-2013 10:06 PM
Could be "distracted driving" as well. Think about it, a person drives that buggy path many times a week in his cart, next time he is in his truck,not thinking or otherwise distracted he finds himself following his regular daily path,, opps, I am in the truck. Shouldn't make excuses though. In truth I have driven all over the Villages many times and I can tell you it is easy to get distracted, so much to see.

mainlander 07-02-2013 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ijusluvit (Post 701864)
I wish the author of this thread had not used such a harsh descriptor to describe this behavior. And it looks more a more like 'Stupid!' has become the standard TV descriptor for any less than perfect action by anyone.

Let's take a breath folks, and realize that for us, this is the 'new normal'. We recently came from places where a greater percentage of the population is more coordinated, capable and less impaired. Oh sure, there is a lot of 'stupid' outside the bubble, but less than here. Did you know that fully 40% of the TV population has a stage one or higher level of some cancer? Some of them drive on treatment and fatigue days, most with no doctors advising against it. Then there are literally thousands more afflicted with other ailments and natural impairments afflicting us as we age. Together I'm suggesting these wonderful people make up the MAJORITY of the TV population, and I am not even counting those who voluntarily impair themselves occasionally or regularly.

Are you willing to give up driving your car and then your cart when you have some problems or close calls you realize you shouldn't have had, or probably wouldn't have had 10 years ago? Probably not, if you are like most people. We don't want to think about that and it's NORMAL that this is one of the last decisions we are willing to make.

So lets concentrate a little more on the real circumstances in which we now live. We love the beauty, enthusiasm and activity here, but the flip-side is that we are all aging and becoming more impaired at a rate we've never experienced before. It's not pretty, but if we can learn to accept it we will be a lot better off. I believe we can even be happy as we feel ourselves aging.

Let's understand this about ourselves and others and extend this understanding to others by expressing more tolerance.

Practicing tolerance can even help us. It lessens the confusion, frustration and embarrassment when we make our own mistakes.
Hear! Hear! Well said.

Warren Kiefer 07-02-2013 10:24 PM
Hold it there
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ijusluvit (Post 701864)
I wish the author of this thread had not used such a harsh descriptor to describe this behavior. And it looks more a more like 'Stupid!' has become the standard TV descriptor for any less than perfect action by anyone.

Let's take a breath folks, and realize that for us, this is the 'new normal'. We recently came from places where a greater percentage of the population is more coordinated, capable and less impaired. Oh sure, there is a lot of 'stupid' outside the bubble, but less than here. Did you know that fully 40% of the TV population has a stage one or higher level of some cancer? Some of them drive on treatment and fatigue days, most with no doctors advising against it. Then there are literally thousands more afflicted with other ailments and natural impairments afflicting us as we age. Together I'm suggesting these wonderful people make up the MAJORITY of the TV population, and I am not even counting those who voluntarily impair themselves occasionally or regularly.

.

Are you willing to give up driving your car and then your cart when you have some problems or close calls you realize you shouldn't have had, or probably wouldn't have had 10 years ago? Probably not, if you are like most people. We don't want to think about that and it's NORMAL that this is one of the last decisions we are willing to make.

So lets concentrate a little more on the real circumstances in which we now live. We love the beauty, enthusiasm and activity here, but the flip-side is that we are all aging and becoming more impaired at a rate we've never experienced before. It's not pretty, but if we can learn to accept it we will be a lot better off. I believe we can even be happy as we feel ourselves aging.

Let's understand this about ourselves and others and extend this understanding to others by expressing more tolerance.

Practicing tolerance can even help us. It lessens the confusion, frustration and embarrassment when we make our own mistakes.
40% of we Villagers have cancer is quite a fact, where did you get that number?? Also I agree with the orginal oposting, stupid is the perfect description.

redwitch 07-02-2013 10:56 PM
If the guy hadn't turned his SUV around and yelled at golf carts to get out of HIS way according to the OP, I'd have a lot more sympathy. I drive a golf cart about 95% of the time. More than once I've had to sheepishly back up when I started to go up a path rather than the road (didn't get far enough to even touch the center pole, but ...).

Golfingnut 07-03-2013 03:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ijusluvit (Post 701864)
I wish the author of this thread had not used such a harsh descriptor to describe this behavior. And it looks more a more like 'Stupid!' has become the standard TV descriptor for any less than perfect action by anyone.

Let's take a breath folks, and realize that for us, this is the 'new normal'. We recently came from places where a greater percentage of the population is more coordinated, capable and less impaired. Oh sure, there is a lot of 'stupid' outside the bubble, but less than here. Did you know that fully 40% of the TV population has a stage one or higher level of some cancer? Some of them drive on treatment and fatigue days, most with no doctors advising against it. Then there are literally thousands more afflicted with other ailments and natural impairments afflicting us as we age. Together I'm suggesting these wonderful people make up the MAJORITY of the TV population, and I am not even counting those who voluntarily impair themselves occasionally or regularly.

Are you willing to give up driving your car and then your cart when you have some problems or close calls you realize you shouldn't have had, or probably wouldn't have had 10 years ago? Probably not, if you are like most people. We don't want to think about that and it's NORMAL that this is one of the last decisions we are willing to make.

So lets concentrate a little more on the real circumstances in which we now live. We love the beauty, enthusiasm and activity here, but the flip-side is that we are all aging and becoming more impaired at a rate we've never experienced before. It's not pretty, but if we can learn to accept it we will be a lot better off. I believe we can even be happy as we feel ourselves aging.

Let's understand this about ourselves and others and extend this understanding to others by expressing more tolerance.

Practicing tolerance can even help us. It lessens the confusion, frustration and embarrassment when we make our own mistakes.
Really??? more tolerance. Please read this.

Golfingnut 07-03-2013 03:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 701897)
40% of we Villagers have cancer is quite a fact, where did you get that number?? Also I agree with the orginal oposting, stupid is the perfect description.
Yes. When someone does something that endangers life of another, that is stupid. If you sugar coat it, you may as well say it is OK.

Parker 07-03-2013 06:33 AM
I don't think stupidity has anything to do with such actions. I would use the term impaired, for whatever reason. Many bright people develop 'issues' as they age. I don't excuse the result at all, but believe categorizing it as stupid diminishes the seriousness of the problem.

asianthree 07-03-2013 07:16 AM
i am confused about the cancer thing...40% i hope not..still car on cart path car will always win

gomoho 07-03-2013 07:28 AM
I don't think the OP meant any harm, but was using a catchy title.

ijusluvit 07-03-2013 07:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 701966)
i am confused about the cancer thing...40% i hope not..still car on cart path car will always win
My oncologist operates out of the Moffat Center here in TV. She is a nationally known researcher as well. She said that the statistics show that nationally, stage one or greater cancer affects about 15% of the total population. In Florida it is 20%, and here among our 100.000 population, the latest figures are 40%. This does not even include folks with any skin cancers except melanoma.

Happydaz 07-03-2013 07:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ijusluvit (Post 701864)
Did you know that fully 40% of the TV population has a stage one or higher level of some cancer?
mistakes.
I did not know that 40% of the TV population has stage one or higher cancer. Where did this statistic come from? What is your source for this statistic? It is interesting to me that it came out to an even number of 40% and not 33.6% or 41.2% that scientific analyses often come out to. The fact that the Villages is populated by older folks makes that a possible statistic, but I would be interested in finding out where you got that number from.

Happydaz 07-03-2013 07:57 AM
Information from one oncologist at the Moffitt Cancer Center is not very scientific. It may be accurate but we have no idea of knowing until we see the actual data.

DougB 07-03-2013 08:04 AM
The 2012 Annual Support on Cancer For Leesburg and The Villages Regional Hospitals states one in two males and one in three females will be stricken with cancer in one form or another, which would be about 40%

http://www.cfhalliance.org/PDF/AnnualCancerReport.pdf

Happydaz 07-03-2013 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 701987)
The 2012 Annual Support on Cancer For Leesburg and The Villages Regional Hospitals states one in two males and one in three females will be stricken with cancer in one form or another, which would be about 40%

http://www.cfhalliance.org/PDF/AnnualCancerReport.pdf
Interesting analysis, but not necessarily statistically accurate.(Good try though!) Unfortunately many people who get cancer die from their disease. Thankfully many others do survive. So determining who is living as a cancer survivor after having a stage one or greater cancer may be a much smaller number than the number of people who have gotten cancer over their lifetime. Look to the NCI or other national data bases for accurate estimates of cancer incidence in the US population. They break it down by types of cancers as well as separate them by age and sex. You can also look up statistics for the number of cancer survivors in the USA and this will give you a good estimate of the percentage of people in the country who are alive today and have survived cancer. The number may be lower than you think.

Madelaine Amee 07-03-2013 08:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bizdoc (Post 701642)
After he managed to turn around, he went tearing back toward Sanibel gate yelling at carts to get out of his way.
To get back on topic, and away from how many of us are impaired or have cancer etc............ I think his reaction may have been pure panic and sheer embarrassment.

Several years ago, four of us left Belvedere Rec with my husband driving our car, we were all laughing over something and he instinctively followed the golf carts headed into the golf cart path, until the other guy in the car brought it to his attention. Stupid - no; inattentive - yes.

patfla06 07-03-2013 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 701905)
If the guy hadn't turned his SUV around and yelled at golf carts to get out of HIS way according to the OP, I'd have a lot more sympathy. I drive a golf cart about 95% of the time. More than once I've had to sheepishly back up when I started to go up a path rather than the road (didn't get far enough to even touch the center pole, but ...).
I have to agree with this!

It's one thing to make a mistake, but his actions after were obnoxious.

I do NOT believe the 40% cancer rate.

DougB 07-03-2013 01:16 PM
If you think the golf cart lanes on the Morse bridge are dangerous when two carts pass each other, try driving a Chevy Trailblazer over the bridge in these lanes like I did the first month we lived here.

Golfingnut 07-03-2013 01:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DougB (Post 702143)
If you think the golf cart lanes on the Morse bridge are dangerous when two carts pass each other, try driving a Chevy Trailblazer over the bridge in these lanes like I did the first month we lived here.
LOL. You know your bad
Doug....

rubicon 07-03-2013 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KayakerNC (Post 701707)
If they can't tell a road from a path, I really wouldn't put much confidence in their reading skills either.
:1rotfl:

Duvalboomer 07-03-2013 02:18 PM
I'm in my 50's and must admit to sometime being confused in a strange environment while driving, I have never confused a cart path for a road but I have noticed it taking a second longer sometimes to recognize things than it did 20 years ago

ronsroni 07-13-2013 08:39 PM
I saw a woman in a huge SUV approach the traffic circle before Hacienda, make a LEFT into oncoming traffic and begin to navigate around autos going the correct way. She was very upset and animated with whomever she was speaking with on her phone. WAKE UP YOU BOZO'S.


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