Attorney General Holder
 

So our Attorney General spoke in front of the NAACP yesterday and basically said the jury made a mistake. Today he tells us because of Trayvon Martin he has had to talk to his son about how to act/react if the police stop him. I think his discussion would have been more beneficial if he had shared with his son how he needs to fear another black man killing him. Those are the statistics, those are the facts, but for some reason he doesn't seem to know that.


The FBI completed their investigation and determined there were no grounds to bring a racial/hate charge against George Zimmerman; however Eric Holder is pandering to the NAACP and telling them they are investigating. Why doesn't he have the balls to tell them the truth - no racism - case closed.

And George is getting his gun back that fired the fatal shot?

The FBI never completed their investigation and never determined if there were grounds to bring charges against George Zimmerman. They stepped aside and put their investigation on hold when the state finally decided to step up to the plate and investigate and finally charge Zimmerman.


Now that the state's case has concluded, Attorney General Eric Holder has stated that the Justice Department will continue on with the case it started over one year ago. The FBI has the advantage of looking back at all of Zimmerman's calls to 911 and the language he used.


Just a hunch that they have probably been monitoring Zimmerman pretty closely ever since this case started.

why shouldn't he get his gun back? we all have a right to protect ourselves.

Hillary Clinton today spoke to an African American Sorority and threw her support to Holder......

This country is moving rapidly to a very very bad place. I know that saying things like this are considered racist by folks...on this board basically folks who have much and like to talk about their wonderful heart and understanding, etc but only talk the talk for the most part.

I will take the risk of being called a racist......I called a very old friend of mine today who is black and he is disturbed by all the hoopla. He made some remarks I cannot repeat but basically said that the hate folks should be talking about is what is in the hearts of so many blacks.

I have to shut up and leave this alone I suppose. I fear it has just begun....folks on the street will burn with no fear of any judgement...they even may kill but it will not be a federal crime....the will loot...they already stormed and looted a Walmart in Los Angeles...no arrests by the way.


PS....Just in case....if you have ANY DOUBTS at all about the political nature of ALL of this, keep track of the players who come out and vocalize on this case and what they say. Sad to politicize the nations heart this way but you need to get votes and this will become the crying words. I am embarassed !

Sure.

An interesting comment by his lawyer Mera was "he needs it now more than ever"

He also wears a vest at all times.

Do you agree he needs it more now or has this all settled down.

Nothing at all new in this post; just a rehash of what everyone knows BUT...the last sentence...

"Just a hunch that they have probably been monitoring Zimmerman pretty closely ever since this case started"

I know the Zimmerman family has had fears about having phones "tapped" etc, but talked to a pretty high up official in Tampa who suspects there may be more to this story than just the family talking, but who knows !!!

It appears we have a lot of folks who appear to be proud of the fact that the hate has caused someone to fear for his life......as Rachel Jeantel said

"Well, the jury, they see their facts. My thoughts of the jury, they old, that's old school people. We in a new school, our generation, my generation. So --"

Jeantel: "The Jury, They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation" | RealClearPolitics

Well, I guess I am old school !!!

i think it would settle down if people like al sharpton and travis smiley did not constantly insist that zimmerman stalked and racially profiled a young child, which was not at all the case and was proven in court. photos of trayvon at the store that night show that he was a tall young man who towered over the male clerk, and could very believably have pounded and straddled zimmerman, who was thin before all this stress came into his life!! the whole affair is very sad, and in the beginning when i heard the nbc edited version of the 911 call and the supposed screaming of trayvon, my heart just broke for that boy's mother to have to hear her dead son's cries for help and no one came to his aide....eventually the true facts came out which were nothing like that version, and i realized that zimmerman was screaming and being beaten and had the right to protect himself. they keep talking about stand your ground which had nothing to do with this case...this case was self-defense, pure and simple. a tragedy for all.

You are correct on all points....but, and I REALLY NEED TO BE CAREFUL HERE.

There are people who have political interests that have been distorting facts and presenting them distorted. Now, that particular network is failing with the numbers so perhaps folks are catching up with them, but at present they do not tell the entire truth and have a job which has absolutely nothing to do with news.

This case has been distorted from the time it was wrenched from the police and handed to politicians. The police, albeit slowly but surely, had it right all the time.

Hold on there case closed Charlie. The federal investigation was only put on hold pending the outcome of the Florida State trial.

He needs to surrender his James Bond right to kill license ... But you are right he will need a gun ...

How did the old saying go....oh yeah....
"Birds of a feather, flock together".....that says it all.

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HELLO !!!

"Holder will have to make up a lie to prosecute Trayvon on civil rights and hate crime charges, because the DOJ investigation, done by the FBI, a division of the DOJ, has already concluded and already found that there was no evidence of any civil rights violations, any hate crimes, or any racism on the part of George Zimmerman. "

Flashback: FBI Concludes Investigation, Finds No Evidence Of Racism, Hate Crime, Civil Rights Violation By Zimmerman « Pat Dollard

"The newswire McClatchy reports:

After interviewing nearly three dozen people in the George Zimmerman murder case, the FBI found no evidence that racial bias was a motivating factor in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, records released Thursday show.

Even the lead detective in the case, Sanford Det. Chris Serino, told agents that he thought Zimmerman profiled Trayvon because of his attire and the circumstances — but not his race.

Serino saw Zimmerman as “having little hero complex, but not as a racist.”

The Duval County State Attorney released another collection of evidence in the Zimmerman murder case Thursday, including reports from FBI agents who investigated whether any racial bias was involved in Trayvon’s Feb. 26 killing. [...]

Federal agents interviewed Zimmerman’s neighbors and co-workers, but none said Zimmerman had expressed racial animus at any time prior to the Feb. 26 shooting of Martin, a black teen, in a confrontation at a Sanford housing complex. As Sanford police investigated the circumstances of Martin’s death, the FBI opened a parallel probe to determine if Martin’s civil rights had been violated.

Several co-workers said they had never seen Zimmerman display any prejudice or racial bias."

Obama & Holder Blocked by FBI? Investigation Shows Zimmerman Not Racist | Independent Journal Review

"Current and former Justice Department officials said Monday that bringing civil rights charges against George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black 17-year-old in Florida, would be extremely difficult and may not be possible.

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. vowed to continue a federal investigation of the matter, but other officials said in interviews that the government may not be able to charge Zimmerman with a federal hate crime because it’s not clear that he killed Martin because of his race."

Civil rights charges against Zimmerman would be difficult, Justice officials say - The Washington Post

Now I realize that in your world, and sadly in the world of many of our leaders in Washington, this makes no difference and the pressure to "get him" will be so strong that anything is possible, but it was NOT put on suspense until this trial was over as you say and it will take pressure from 'high up" to make it happen and that is possible !

Love it!!!

George was one of “very few” in Sanford who publicly condemned the “beating of the black homeless man Sherman Ware on Dec. 4, 2010, by the son of a Sanford police officer,” who is white.

In 2010 race-related beating case, George Zimmerman pushed to discipline same officers who investigated Trayvon Martin shooting | The Daily Caller

History shows Eric Holder has no problem with lies!

History also verifies, that Holder never has much to say publicly about anything of major national significance.
But has he become highly visible and outspoken pumping race cards.

All for one purpose.....political posturing.

He had to wait for the verdict to talk to his son....1rotf

Prior to the verdict the killing of each other within his own race was not remarkable?.......1rotf

An insult to thinking people almost anywhere.

btk

Wrong.

What a WASTE of taxpayer money!!!

Could someone please set me straight. Is that the same Eric Holder that interned with the NAACP from law school?
Are we also talking about the same GZ that took an African-American girl to his high school prom?
Or the same GZ who mentored troubled A-A children and even took them into his home?
Or the same GZ who defended a homeless A-A man from the police?
Or the same GZ who saw a strange person that fit the description of those burglarizing his neighborhood on several recent occasions?
If so, I guess he was honing his racist skills very cleverly.

And the truth shall set everyone free... Thank you Quietman :-)

Now you have gone and done it. Confusing the media educated, politically brainwashed, special interest driven.

Which they will ignore just like the jury decision. It just doesn't fit the agenda.

The only good thing about Holder's pontificating since the verdict is his track record........say what a particular audience wants to hear, make up a folksy personal story to go with it....then....do nothing. Has a familiar ring to it....eh?

btk

Over 30 states have some form of "stand your ground" laws. And now the political powers want to change those laws based on nothing from this case to provide more rights and opportunities to the criminals. We are failing as a nation. Those laws were passed to protect victims from criminals. Now they want to eliminate them to protect criminals from victims.

I have never ever even considered joining NRA. Today I joined. To support stand your ground laws, to support the "right to bear arms" and to add one more vote against the political and race division those in power are driving. This nation has become so divided. My next step will be to obtain a concealed carry permit. My goal is to do as much as possible to go the opposite direction the Eric Holders of the world want.

scary...............

What is bothersome to me is that all these posts are related to one side of the story here. People like hannity, Limbaugh, coulter have political agendas also and push them on a daily basis.

You could have done that without joining the NRA whom could care less about your rights and more about the bottom line of the weapon manufacturers.

But that doesn't mean all people listen to them or read them. There are degrees of conservatism and liberalism, we are thinking people and old enough to have accrued some knowledge from life.

GOMOHO and BUCCO - cheers for being brave enough to state your opinions.

All my life I assumed the word RESTARTING meant something had already been started and then stopped. So you can imagine my problem when the news topic on CBS news was DOJ restarting Zimmerman Case?

Would this have been an issue if both were black or both were hispanic or both been blue or both been green or white. I dont think so . The jury ruled that is how our court system works let it go . Holder will use this for gun removal and to take over making laws for the states even more than they are now. The whole thing is very unfortunate and maybe it didnt have to happen I dont know let it go folks the more you talk about it the more it goes on.

give it a rest guys! holder set aside the investigation started last spring once the state prosecution began...he is picking up where that left off - with only the report from the fbi investigation that concluded gz was not a racist.

Thought the investigation was to determine if Zimmerman racially profiled Trayvon. If the FBI concluded Zimmerman is not a racist what is there left to investigate??? Holder is simply giving lip service to pacify some folks.
The sooner he admits the jury has spoken and this was not a race case the sooner people will calm down. He is feeding the fire.

At the end of the trial, I heard that GZ never stated that he was part of the Neighborhood Watch program. Why not? Wouldn't that have defused a certain amount of the confrontation?

Also, if he was part of the N.W. program, then why was he gun concealed? Again, wouldn't that have made a difference in the outcome?

I don't understand this.

According to what I have read, GZ was part of the NW program but was not on duty that night. He was on his way to the store when he saw TM.

It was not necessary that Z was on Neighborhood Watch duty that night. He had every right to go to Trayvon and tell him he was part of Neighborhood Watch and to ask where he was going.

However, Z never said that and the testosterone from two guys took over.

i don't think there is a clear reason for holder's investigation. i believe he is giving lip service as you do - BUT - i also think he will take any info he can get and hope that something will turn up that allows him to go forward with something - lame or not!

check out this link: Eric Holder launches 'snitch line' on Zimmerman - Wilmington Conservative | Examiner.com

Holder could claim he had something on gz and go after him! With Holder's track record it could very well be a lie!