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graciegirl 08-29-2013 01:37 PM

Sad to pass on. A murder suicide at Stonecrest.
 
Murder-suicide at Stonecrest - **************

Madelaine Amee 08-29-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 735545)

I would prefer to think of this as a mercy killing/suicide. It would seem to me that they could not, or did not want to, live without each other. In any case, very sad.

Taltarzac725 08-29-2013 02:25 PM

Sad news. Doubt if there is much to investigate. There could be more going on here however than just a couple so much in love that one cannot bear to be without the other. Perhaps, they both had serious medical problems and did not want to burden any other family members if that had them.

Golfingnut 08-29-2013 02:36 PM

I agree with the mercy killing and suicide as the likely cause. What a strong show of love for a life partner. It is so sad that we do not have assisted suicide laws all over this country.

ijusluvit 08-29-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 735545)

Somehow it seems out of character for you to be the "out front" reporter on this item.

keithwand 08-29-2013 03:55 PM

That's what they make garages for. A pitcher of Manhattans rocking to ACDC would be our preferred way.

Villages PL 08-29-2013 04:33 PM

It's nice to think it was "true love" and that they didn't want to be apart. But we don't know what happened. It could have been altogether different. He might have said, "we can't afford your "assisted living facility" anymore. Do you think money grows on trees? We are nearly broke!" He might have been suffering from depression because of financial problems. So they argued about it and the rest is history.

Halle 08-29-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 735583)
I agree with the mercy killing and suicide as the likely cause. What a strong show of love for a life partner. It is so sad that we do not have assisted suicide laws all over this country.

I agree.

deltaguy 08-29-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 735686)
It's nice to think it was "true love" and that they didn't want to be apart. But we don't know what happened. It could have been altogether different. He might have said, "we can't afford your "assisted living facility" anymore. Do you think money grows on trees? We are nearly broke!" He might have been suffering from depression because of financial problems. So they argued about it and the rest is history.

Let it rest in peace! It's none of our business!

Villages PL 08-29-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 735583)
I agree with the mercy killing and suicide as the likely cause. What a strong show of love for a life partner. It is so sad that we do not have assisted suicide laws all over this country.

It may be that only one of them committed suicide. And it might have been because of depression. Does any state allow assisted suicide for people suffering from depression? I don't think so.

Monkei 08-29-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 735545)

sad when these things happen I had it happen in my family with a cousin and her husband but to make it tragic they were both in the 30s in good health with children.

Thanks for the post ... I did not even know that this Village news site existed.

asianthree 08-29-2013 07:24 PM

well we will never know hoping a note to the family will help the healing

manaboutown 08-29-2013 10:23 PM

Apparently murder-suicides are increasing among elderly couples. According to this article usually the man is responsible and acts without his wife's previous knowledge or consent. Murder-suicide disturbing trend among the elderly

chuckinca 08-30-2013 12:19 AM

RIP Elmo and Doris you will be missed.

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DianeM 08-30-2013 06:34 AM

When you can't take living anymore you do this. Sad but true.

graciegirl 08-30-2013 08:15 AM

I think this has given us all pause. I feel for their family and friends.

My grandmother would often say...Some things are worse than death.

bennete2 08-30-2013 08:22 AM

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May the good lord bless both of them and welcome them with open arms!!

DaleMN 08-30-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 735707)
It may be that only one of them committed suicide. And it might have been because of depression. Does any state allow assisted suicide for people suffering from depression? I don't think so.

Oregon, Washington and Vermont allow physician assisted end of life. All should.

justjim 08-30-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleMN (Post 736115)
Oregon, Washington and Vermont allow physician assisted end of life. All should.

Thanks for your post with that information---I was not aware any State had passed such legislation. Of course, not a subject you often discuss or think much about until you hear about such tragedy. Prayers for their family.

gpirate 08-30-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleMN (Post 736115)
Oregon, Washington and Vermont allow physician assisted end of life. All should.

Dale I agree.

KeepingItReal 08-30-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguy (Post 735706)
Let it rest in peace! It's none of our business!

Agree. :pray:

Having experienced both I know suicide is a totally different kind of pain and anguish to loosing someone from a natural death. The family will question many things for many years to come and always wonder if there was not something they could have done.

rubicon 08-30-2013 03:31 PM

"Oregon, Washington and Vermont do and all states should allow it."
WATCH WHAT YOU WISH FOR YOU JUST MIGHT GET IT!

perrjojo 08-30-2013 08:14 PM

I have heard many sick and elderly people say, "I just wish I would die". I have really never understood that because they truly do have that choice. My Mother was faced with a terminal illness, signed on with Hospice and passed in 9 days. She refused all food and drink. No ivs, no stomach tubes.

Without food or hydration it takes 7 to 10 days to pass on. With the help of Hospice it was painless and peaceful.
She was surrounded by family for that entire time.

My Mother was a woman of great courage who lived and died on her own terms.

Barefoot 08-30-2013 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaleMN (Post 736115)
Oregon, Washington and Vermont allow physician assisted end of life. All should.

I wasn't aware any States allowed Physician-assisted end of life. I wonder if they ever get residents of other States approaching the doctors for guidance or prescriptions.

DaleMN 08-31-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 736345)
"Oregon, Washington and Vermont do and all states should allow it."
WATCH WHAT YOU WISH FOR YOU JUST MIGHT GET IT!

I sure hope so!!

DaleMN 08-31-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 736511)
I wasn't aware any States allowed Physician-assisted end of life. I wonder if they ever get residents of other States approaching the doctors for guidance or prescriptions.

I assume they must have some kind of residency requirement.

graciegirl 08-31-2013 09:38 AM

Some of us just can't help themselves making every issue a matter of philosophical bickering. It isn't necessary and certainly not kind, in the face of this sad news.


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