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Happinow 09-18-2013 08:00 PM

I'm a little worried.....
 
I'm getting a little worried. A neighbor two doors down just painted their front door and garage door barn red. About three culdesacs away, they painted their trim Forrest green. I am worried that people will start painting their homes, doors, trim and what ever else they can, all kinds of colors. With the homes so close, I think the neighborhoods will start to look like a circus town with all different colors. The reason we moved here is because we like the simplicity and class of the neighborhoods and how pleasing to the eye all of the homes are. I know each to their own but this is not the type of area to express your personal taste in such a bold way. Is anyone else thinking about this?

DougB 09-18-2013 08:10 PM

I haven't thought about it

DianeM 09-18-2013 08:10 PM

I'd love a red door but not garage door. Seems inappropriate. My house came with a green door when I bought it.

Happinow 09-18-2013 08:17 PM

I think painting a front door is fine but the garage doors are an eye sorer. Since garage doors are down most of the time they are in your face. Why would anyone want to put more attention on the garage doors? The reason they are painted the way the are when built is to make them blend not stand out.

asianthree 09-18-2013 08:17 PM

my house came with forest green doors....next door is navy, across the street is dark red...and next to them is a pea green,,,that what the villages painted them..... let the rainbow begin

perrjojo 09-18-2013 08:18 PM

You should report it to Community Standards. I doubt this is allowed. BTW, reports are anonymous. You will not have to give your name. Someone will come out and look and if it is a violation they will be cited. Changing the paint color must be approved.

DougB 09-18-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 748496)
I'm getting a little worried. A neighbor two doors down just painted their front door and garage door barn red. About three culdesacs away, they painted their trim Forrest green. I am worried that people will start painting their homes, doors, trim and what ever else they can, all kinds of colors. With the homes so close, I think the neighborhoods will start to look like a circus town with all different colors.

I saw 12 - 15 clowns in a golf cart going town Morse earlier today.

KittyKat 09-18-2013 08:30 PM

Happinow, this worries me too. When I wanted to paint the front door I called the ARC to see if I needed to fill out the form and was told no. I started to tell her what color I was going to paint it and she said they don't care(!). I couldn't believe it. The garage door is painted to match the tan siding. I can't imagine a red garage door and also the forest green trim on the other house. I have seen a house off of Delmar that has a bright blue on the trim. Pretty soon we'll be seeing houses painted pink and turquoise--that's the reason we wanted south of 466. I think you should get those addresses and give the compliance people a call.

graciegirl 09-18-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 748511)
You should report it to Community Standards. I doubt this is allowed. BTW, reports are anonymous. You will not have to give your name. Someone will come out and look and if it is a violation they will be cited. Changing the paint color must be approved.

Unfortunately it is allowed. And it worries me too.

Deed restrictions do not govern exterior paint colors or colors on driveways.

This can become a problem. I wish they would change it.

maddie101 09-18-2013 08:40 PM

.....but they care if two houses next to each other are the same color. Go figure.

graciegirl 09-18-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by maddie101 (Post 748529)
.....but they care if two houses next to each other are the same color. Go figure.




There have been some talked about instances of intense color used around town. It is sad that not everyone has the same idea of what is tasteful. I very much know that the people who designed this place do know what is tasteful, but it is not in the deed restrictions for some reason or another.

Our neighbors moved from Bonita Springs near Ft. Meyers and they said their development had restrictions on what homes could be repainted, they had to have approval.

I wish they did here.

gilbey16 09-18-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 748553)
There have been some talked about instances of intense color used around town. It is sad that not everyone has the same idea of what is tasteful. I very much know that the people who designed this place do know what is tasteful, but it is not in the deed restrictions for some reason or another.

Our neighbors moved from Bonita Springs near Ft. Meyers and they said their development had restrictions on what homes could be repainted, they had to have approval.

I wish they did here.

:agree:

bkcunningham1 09-18-2013 09:17 PM

If someone's front door worries you guys, you wouldn't have liked the house I saw a couple of weeks ago while I was going to yard sales with my stepdaughter. It was P-I-N-K. The lady having the yard sale lived directly across the street from the house and actually had a table set up on her driveway asking people to sign a petition requesting that there be restrictions on the colors people can paint their houses.

I told her I liked the house. She didn't ask me to sign her petition. Who knows? Maybe the person who lives there is a breast cancer survivor. Or maybe the color wasn't exactly what they wanted, or maybe they just like the color. Or maybe they did it to **** off their nosey neighbor across the street.

Jim 9922 09-18-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 748496)
I'm getting a little worried. A neighbor two doors down just painted their front door and garage door barn red. ------. I know each to their own but this is not the type of area to express your personal taste in such a bold way. Is anyone else thinking about this?

Apparently you haven't been bothered by some of the awful painted/decorated driveways that seem abound in The Villages. To me a red or green door is minor compared to what can be done on a 16'X 30' hunk of concrete!

njbchbum 09-18-2013 09:30 PM

the issue of house painting and arc approval has come up as recently as the may 8 amenity authority committee mtg re the lady lake/lake county area.

the burden this would place on the arc is discussed in some depth at the may 8 aac minutes that you should be able to link to from here: VCDD AAC listing of dates is on lower half of the page. it's an interesting read! ;)

justjim 09-18-2013 09:38 PM

Recently saw a Premier painted a bright blue color. Generally the Developer did a good job on deed restrictions but blew this one on painting. It can be fixed but will take a major effort.

Lpierleo 09-18-2013 09:47 PM

A little worried
 
Happinow, I can understand them possibly changing the color of their front door, but certainly not the garage door(s)! I would be concerned as well. I thought those types of changes had to be approved by ARC, but according to other posters it sounds like that is not the case. I would give them a call just to ensure there is nothing that can be done. Good Luck and Best wishes.

ilovetv 09-18-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 748575)
Apparently you haven't been bothered by some of the awful painted/decorated driveways that seem abound in The Villages. To me a red or green door is minor compared to what can be done on a 16'X 30' hunk of concrete!

So true about the driveways. It would be better if driveway coating/covering/painting were limited to only two or three texture/color combinations.

Courtyard villas are restricted and subject to ARC approval for painting them in varied colors, like Mission Hills has. And driveways can only be one way---stained/coated with the approved material and color for the CYV neighborhood.

Indydealmaker 09-18-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by maddie101 (Post 748529)
.....but they care if two houses next to each other are the same color. Go figure.

They just wanted to minimize the chances of drunks coming home to the wrong house.:1rotfl:

kaydee 09-18-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KittyKat (Post 748517)
Happinow, this worries me too. When I wanted to paint the front door I called the ARC to see if I needed to fill out the form and was told no. I started to tell her what color I was going to paint it and she said they don't care(!). I couldn't believe it. The garage door is painted to match the tan siding. I can't imagine a red garage door and also the forest green trim on the other house. I have seen a house off of Delmar that has a bright blue on the trim. Pretty soon we'll be seeing houses painted pink and turquoise--that's the reason we wanted south of 466. I think you should get those addresses and give the compliance people a call.

I guess if you live south of 466 you aren't protected either from neighbors choosing unacceptable colors.

graciegirl 09-18-2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kaydee (Post 748608)
I guess if you live south of 466 you aren't protected either from neighbors choosing unacceptable colors.

That is correct.

Barefoot 09-19-2013 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KittyKat (Post 748517)
When I wanted to paint the front door I called the ARC to see if I needed to fill out the form and was told no. I started to tell her what color I was going to paint it and she said they don't care(!).

I am astonished to hear this. :22yikes: it's not good news! I was always under the impression that ARC permission was required in order to change paint colors of houses, doors, garage doors, shingles, trim.

bkcunningham1 09-19-2013 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 748577)
the issue of house painting and arc approval has come up as recently as the may 8 amenity authority committee mtg re the lady lake/lake county area.

the burden this would place on the arc is discussed in some depth at the may 8 aac minutes that you should be able to link to from here: VCDD AAC listing of dates is on lower half of the page. it's an interesting read! ;)

..."electric colors"... Is Jamaican Blue an electric color? Thanks njbchbum. That was an interesting read. All of that talk about an acceptable palette leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

senior citizen 09-19-2013 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 748659)
..."electric colors"... Is Jamaican Blue an electric color? Thanks njbchbum. That was an interesting read. All of that talk about an acceptable palette leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


We were also turned off by the condo rules (not that we wanted to paint our door a crazy color; we did not).....when we bought our beachfront condo years ago. But you abide by the rules.

It just was very strange after living in a place with little or no zoning for so many years......where people were free to do as they pleased in their own homes and to their own homes.

However, to keep things "uniform" do understand the concept and luckily, we like earth tones.

unknown*server 09-19-2013 05:28 AM

Take a drive down Cokesbury in the village of Caroline, right off of Stillwater. I'll let you determine which house I'm referring to... what a putrid shade!

DianeM 09-19-2013 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 748509)
I think painting a front door is fine but the garage doors are an eye sorer. Since garage doors are down most of the time they are in your face. Why would anyone want to put more attention on the garage doors? The reason they are painted the way the are when built is to make them blend not stand out.

Absolutely.

Phanatic Luvr 09-19-2013 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 748511)
You should report it to Community Standards. I doubt this is allowed. BTW, reports are anonymous. You will not have to give your name. Someone will come out and look and if it is a violation they will be cited. Changing the paint color must be approved.

I don't know if you are correct in stating "changing the paint color must be approved". My husband has painted the exterior of a few homes in TV's and questioned this prior to painting and the answer was it didn't have to be approved. I also remember reading something, not all that long ago in the Daily Sun, about they were trying to made it that you needed approval prior to painting the outside of a home.

mulligan 09-19-2013 06:23 AM

Why don't people just read and abide by the deed restrictions they agreed to at closing??

gomoho 09-19-2013 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 748683)
Why don't people just read and abide by the deed restrictions they agreed to at closing??

The people painting are abiding by the deed restrictions - there are none when it comes to paint colors. The people complaining are not abiding by the deed restrictions - they are complaining about a restriction that doesn't exist.

senior citizen 09-19-2013 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 748598)
They just wanted to minimize the chances of drunks coming home to the wrong house.:1rotfl:

I was not thinking drunks, but I was thinking the same exact thing while reading these posts......that it would be so easy to return home to the wrong house.......so maybe they are just marking their territory with a bright color they won't forget.

Apparently, not too many have been up to Canada or Nova Scotia....
They love their bright colors and the homes are all distinctive.

Up here we have pale dove grey with all crisp white trim on the shutters, front porch, picket fence, garage doors, window trim....everything is crisp white against the pale grey siding.......with some natural red brick halfway up the front covered porch..........grey Vermont slate on the steps leading up to the front porch and on the front porch............so all very neutral. Even our three season sun porch off the back of the house is all crisp white exterior and the deck is natural light wood Trex decking...as is the floor of the sun porch........all neutral.

That said, I have seen some really pretty PALE PINK and PALE SEAFOAM BLUE homes with LOTS OF WHITE TRIM.......that look very Floridian and Key West.........and very attractive. There is pink and then there is pink.

In our other home, where we raised our family, we also had dove grey on the cedar clapboards with white trim........and a RED FRONT DOOR.

As I type this, my husband is repainting our front door........which is a fiberglass door with stained glass......plus glass "sidelights" on each side.........it originally had been painted or stained an "antique ivory"......but he's painting it white as the sun did a number on the color and it "turned"........I can smell the fumes now..........

Red doors are very New England. But, don't think I would have one in Florida.

Lovey2 09-19-2013 06:52 AM

Uh-oh! My understanding was that almost anything you wanted to do outside (driveways, painting, installed flag poles and the like) had to be approved. While this may annoy some people, I was happy with this for aesthetic reasons. I have lived in SWFL for 23 years and where I came from some of the homes were painted most garishly even tho we had other property restrictions in place. One guy painted his house bright orange, simply BECAUSE the city asked him to remove a small boat he had trailered next to his home on the grass. Again, one of the reasons we moved there..the restrictions. I hope we don't get to that here. I like the nice soothing look of the neighborhoods...paint whatever you'd like inside so only you can enjoy it, and leave the outside colors be.

senior citizen 09-19-2013 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Denise Frayne (Post 748696)
Uh-oh! My understanding was that almost anything you wanted to do outside (driveways, painting, installed flag poles and the like) had to be approved. While this may annoy some people, I was happy with this for aesthetic reasons. I have lived in SWFL for 23 years and where I came from some of the homes were painted most garishly even tho we had other property restrictions in place. One guy painted his house bright orange, simply BECAUSE the city asked him to remove a small boat he had trailered next to his home on the grass. Again, one of the reasons we moved there..the restrictions. I hope we don't get to that here. I like the nice soothing look of the neighborhoods...paint whatever you'd like inside so only you can enjoy it, and leave the outside colors be.


Zoning is indeed good. It keeps everything looking neat........
I agree........save the loud colors for indoors.......if that is their preference.

I still can't believe it, but when we were first married in 1965 and shortly thereafter bought our first house......we painted one wall in the living room ORANGE. What were we thinking? Now, everything is neutral.

We've owned five different homes in our 48 years of marriage and that was the only orange wall. Orange must have been the in color as we also bought an orange "shag" carpeting when we moved to Vermont. Horrors.
That was the end of the orange era..........after that we had brown carpeting, silver snow (pale grey) carpeting, oatmeal berber and "sand" color carpeting, etc.........

Restrictions and zoning are good. There, I said it again.
We have a great neighbor across the road from us.
However, he put his "above ground pool" on the side of his house up close to his garage doors.........no privacy fence. Anything goes up here.

But, shouldn't complain........he had to look at my husband's big boat in our driveway for many many years........

If you drive into the rural parts of Vermont.........it really gets "busy" with old trucks, cars, ATV's, etc. parked every which way, wherever they land, on the properties.........and a few pink flamingos, believe it or not.
Again, lack of zoning. Everyone is free to do as they please.

graciegirl 09-19-2013 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 748683)
Why don't people just read and abide by the deed restrictions they agreed to at closing??

Repainting homes in another color isn't in the deed restrictions or restricted in any way, Mulligan. I HATE to think what will happen when folks are needing to repaint and allowed to choose. Most people have good taste, but not all.

There is lilkewise nothing restricted about driveway colors.

Happinow 09-19-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lpierleo (Post 748587)
Happinow, I can understand them possibly changing the color of their front door, but certainly not the garage door(s)! I would be concerned as well. I thought those types of changes had to be approved by ARC, but according to other posters it sounds like that is not the case. I would give them a call just to ensure there is nothing that can be done. Good Luck and Best wishes.

I did call community standards and they said there are no restrictions on larger homes....only villas. They also said they are working on coming up with color restrictions based on some of the awful colors they have seen, so I expect they will be implementing some sort of color codes soon.

graciegirl 09-19-2013 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 748701)
I did call community standards and they said there are no restrictions on larger homes....only villas. They also said they are working on coming up with color restrictions based on some of the awful colors they have seen, so I expect they will be implementing some sort of color codes soon.

I hope so. But those already painted will probably stand.

Lovey2 09-19-2013 07:17 AM

well...like I said before...uh-oh! We were very happy with the restrictions in Cape Coral, and YES, would even call code enforcement when we had an infraction on our street. No, I don't wanna look at your boat, unless it's out in the canal..no, I don't want your big lettered work truck in the driveway, I'm not living in a industrial park, and no, I don't think you should have cars, trucks, trailers, old hot tubs, etc. between the houses, and mow your lawn regularly, please. So...I was happy to learn there were restrictions here, although I very much wanted a gazebo out back. I KNOW mine would be tasteful (to me) but did I want to look at a (maybe) purple one....no. So I go with the restrictions, and hope everyone else does too. Now I learn there aren't enough of them...UH-OH!

oldyeller 09-19-2013 07:43 AM

I don't see this working we live in a CYV and our neighbors had to get all their colors approved. I also know of a woman who wanted to paint the front door blue and they said no. The people with the red door probably followed the "its better to beg forgiveness rather than ask for permission philosophy". Just saying!

perrjojo 09-19-2013 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Phanatic Luvr (Post 748679)
I don't know if you are correct in stating "changing the paint color must be approved". My husband has painted the exterior of a few homes in TV's and questioned this prior to painting and the answer was it didn't have to be approved. I also remember reading something, not all that long ago in the Daily Sun, about they were trying to made it that you needed approval prior to painting the outside of a home.

It seems that I am partially correct. We live in a CYV and colors must be approved. That doesn't seem to be the case for homes.

graciegirl 09-19-2013 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Denise Frayne (Post 748705)
well...like I said before...uh-oh! We were very happy with the restrictions in Cape Coral, and YES, would even call code enforcement when we had an infraction on our street. No, I don't wanna look at your boat, unless it's out in the canal..no, I don't want your big lettered work truck in the driveway, I'm not living in a industrial park, and no, I don't think you should have cars, trucks, trailers, old hot tubs, etc. between the houses, and mow your lawn regularly, please. So...I was happy to learn there were restrictions here, although I very much wanted a gazebo out back. I KNOW mine would be tasteful (to me) but did I want to look at a (maybe) purple one....no. So I go with the restrictions, and hope everyone else does too. Now I learn there aren't enough of them...UH-OH!

Deep breaths Denise.

Many people have lived here long enough to have a repaint and you don't see a sea of garish colors. AND the folks behind the curtain are working on it, according to Happinow's report from warranty. I trust THEM more than a voting bunch of homeowners. They have proven to have not only beaufiful taste but remarkable business sense and that old standby, common sense.

Don't give up the ship. I betcha they will fix it.

samhass 09-19-2013 08:26 AM

Our home sits under a massive old oak. We had it painted a fawn grey that almost matches the moss in tree and also picked up all the charcoal colors in our tan stonework. . All the trim is in white except for the front doors. They pick up the browns of the stone. Just because paint is different from everyone else's, that doesn't make it bad. After a bit the sea of pastels becomes boring, IMHO. My house used
to be yellow and stuck out. Now it disappears into the earth and trees when I look at it from a distance. I like that.


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