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delima2000 09-27-2013 05:52 PM

Another home priced over 2,000,000.00
 
I was just on the villages web site looking up used homes and found another home for sale at over $2,000,000.00. It is a new listing with address not disclosed. Maybe home values are rising in the villages. Check it out.:a040:

bike42 09-27-2013 06:42 PM

That's 2373 Baypoint Way in Pennecamp. Bought for $1,350,000 in 2011. This one is apparently not being sold furnished ... (The $2,400,000 one in Bridgeport at Miona Shores is extravagantly furnished). It will be interesting to see if these homes sell and at what price.

cquick 09-27-2013 06:57 PM

oh, that home sits right on Lake Miona, with only two other homes. I'll bet the view is beautiful.

asianthree 09-27-2013 08:19 PM

i was in that house when they built it..its nice

GaryW 09-30-2013 03:47 AM

No View in The Villages is worth 2 Mil... No where near 1 Mil. Spend that much for a view, Better be overlooking Central Park.

graciegirl 09-30-2013 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryW (Post 754792)
No View in The Villages is worth 2 Mil... No where near 1 Mil. Spend that much for a view, Better be overlooking Central Park.


Given a choice any day of the week I would take any home here over any home overlooking Central Park. I love THIS place.

The 2.4 million dollar home's interior wasn't what I expected to see.

mickey100 09-30-2013 06:50 AM

I see people spending $200,000 for a view. I think that is excessive.

buggyone 09-30-2013 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 754823)
I see people spending $200,000 for a view. I think that is excessive.

Each to their own. Personally, I would rather spend a lot for a beautiful view than to have lanais real close to me in the back looking directly into mine.

missypie 09-30-2013 07:17 AM

If 2 mil was my housing budget, you bet I'd buy that house.

There is no place else in the world like TV. We feel so blessed.

mickey100 09-30-2013 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 754837)
Each to their own. Personally, I would rather spend a lot for a beautiful view than to have lanais real close to me in the back looking directly into mine.

You're right. Each to their own. To me, $200,000 for a lot the size of a postage stamp, with neighbors so close in on the sides, is a real rip off. And so many of the views I've seen are problematic - for example, golf course views that have a cart trail nearby, so you're watching carts zoom by the house every 8 minutes. So much for privacy. No thanks.

graciegirl 09-30-2013 08:07 AM

The Fox and the Grapes

Aesop


Once upon a time there was a fox strolling through the woods.
He came upon a grape orchard. There he found a bunch of
beautiful grapes hanging from a high branch.
http://www.bedtime.com/assets/images..._falling_w.gif

"Boy those sure would be tasty," he thought to himself.
He backed up and took a running start, and jumped.
He did not get high enough.

He went back to his starting spot and tried again.
He almost got high enough this time, but not quite.

He tried and tried, again and again, but just couldn't get high
enough to grab the grapes.

Finally, he gave up.

As he walked away, he put his nose in the air and said:
"I am sure those grapes are sour."


Moral
IT IS EASY TO SCORN WHAT YOU CANNOT GET.

deltaguy 09-30-2013 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 754796)
Given a choice any day of the week I would take any home here over any home overlooking Central Park. I love THIS place.

The 2.4 million dollar home's interior wasn't what I expected to see.

Please elaborate. Just what is it that you were expecting that was not there to make it worth 2.4 million? A view of Central Park perhaps?

graciegirl 09-30-2013 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 754872)
The Fox and the Grapes

Aesop


Once upon a time there was a fox strolling through the woods.
He came upon a grape orchard. There he found a bunch of
beautiful grapes hanging from a high branch. http://www.bedtime.com/assets/images..._falling_w.gif

"Boy those sure would be tasty," he thought to himself.
He backed up and took a running start, and jumped.
He did not get high enough.

He went back to his starting spot and tried again.
He almost got high enough this time, but not quite.

He tried and tried, again and again, but just couldn't get high
enough to grab the grapes.

Finally, he gave up.

As he walked away, he put his nose in the air and said:
"I am sure those grapes are sour."

Moral

IT IS EASY TO SCORN WHAT YOU CANNOT GET.




bump

ROCKETMAN 09-30-2013 08:32 AM

House prices are definitely rising on new and pre-owned. A new courtyard villa south of 466a used to be around $153,000, now $175,000 not furnished or corner villa. I have been watching the pre-owned and they are rising also.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-30-2013 08:53 AM

I have never understood people who want to live in a big city like New York. I, like most people, have the attitude that it's a great place to visit, but I'd never want to live there.

I'd take the Villages any day over Manhattan even with a view of Central Park.

Another thing that always puzzled me was people who live and work in big cities talking about the wonderful views from their windows. I would look out and see a bunch of ugly buildings and filthy alleys. To me, a great view is the Grand Canyon, the White Mountains of New Hampshire, the Everglades. There is no view in any city that compared with those.

I think that it's absurd that people pay $2,000,000 for a tiny apartment in NYC where they have no land, no backyard, no fresh air. I had a friend that paid $800,000 for a studio apartment on 21st street. When I went to visit, he would show me his view of the Empire State building. You sort of had to stick your head halfway out the window and turn to the left. All I could think about was what kind of beautiful house with landscaping and gardens and a garage and basement that you could buy in my old neighborhood in Massachusetts for that kind of money.

Oh well each to their own, I guess.

Anyroad, I don't think that anyone is paying $2,000,000 for the view alone. It looks like a gorgeous home with a great lanai and a wonderful yard. It has several bedrooms and bathrooms and looks like a wonderful place to live and to have company stay over.

GaryW 09-30-2013 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltaguy (Post 754876)
Please elaborate. Just what is it that you were expecting that was not there to make it worth 2.4 million? A view of Central Park perhaps?


I am for a view, but there is no view worth that around here. Just MHO now!! I understand that location location and location drive up the price. But for that much greenback action, Need alot more house for me to up that many dead ones...
Brother in Law just bought a house on Lake Toho for 650,000. Much bigger and nicer with Lake View....
Man after watching Million Dollar Listing New York Central Park or SoHo for that price.

Bavarian 09-30-2013 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 754837)
Each to their own. Personally, I would rather spend a lot for a beautiful view than to have lanais real close to me in the back looking directly into mine.

Ditto

CFrance 09-30-2013 10:37 AM

If I had 2.4 mil to spend on a house, I would have the best of both worlds--one house in TV and one in Tuscany or Umbria or Andaluca or Perigord or, or, or...

ilovetv 09-30-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryW (Post 754792)
No View in The Villages is worth 2 Mil... No where near 1 Mil. Spend that much for a view, Better be overlooking Central Park.

No way.

An ocean view, YES, but the other thread about coastal (required) flood insurance premiums rising by 600-700% is making TV look better all the time for buyers.

Madelaine Amee 09-30-2013 11:24 AM

For that sort of money, I would have one on Nantucket and one on Snell Island or Coffee Pot Bayou.

deltaguy 09-30-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 754907)
I have never understood people who want to live in a big city like New York. I, like most people, have the attitude that it's a great place to visit, but I'd never want to live there.

I'd take the Villages any day over Manhattan even with a view of Central Park.

Another thing that always puzzled me was people who live and work in big cities talking about the wonderful views from their windows. I would look out and see a bunch of ugly buildings and filthy alleys. To me, a great view is the Grand Canyon, the White Mountains of New Hampshire, the Everglades. There is no view in any city that compared with those.

I think that it's absurd that people pay $2,000,000 for a tiny apartment in NYC where they have no land, no backyard, no fresh air. I had a friend that paid $800,000 for a studio apartment on 21st street. When I went to visit, he would show me his view of the Empire State building. You sort of had to stick your head halfway out the window and turn to the left. All I could think about was what kind of beautiful house with landscaping and gardens and a garage and basement that you could buy in my old neighborhood in Massachusetts for that kind of money.

Oh well each to their own, I guess.

Anyroad, I don't think that anyone is paying $2,000,000 for the view alone. It looks like a gorgeous home with a great lanai and a wonderful yard. It has several bedrooms and bathrooms and looks like a wonderful place to live and to have company stay over.

You are outnumbered in your opinion by about 8,000,000 to 1.

murray607 09-30-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 754893)
House prices are definitely rising on new and pre-owned. A new courtyard villa south of 466a used to be around $153,000, now $175,000 not furnished or corner villa. I have been watching the pre-owned and they are rising also.

No Patio Villas under $150,000 now and some are in the $180,000's and no discounts.

Looks like a 7-10% rise in price in a past year

CFrance 09-30-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltaguy (Post 754876)
Please elaborate. Just what is it that you were expecting that was not there to make it worth 2.4 million? A view of Central Park perhaps?

I looked at the picturesand listing for that house--the first one, which I believe was the 2.4 million one. I thought for that price it was on too small of a lot, and the interior needed a lot of updating, especially the paint colors. At least one of the living spaces was very narrow and very dark, and that could not be changed without moving walls, which is costly. The statues in the pool looked too... I don't know. Rococo? If you wanted to remove them, how? Are they cemented down?

It seemed very out-of-current style ornate and would need work.

I don't think Central Park view had anything to do with GG's assessment. I think it was more the style of the house... Although I too would take Central Park if I had the income to make living in NYC easy-- taxi money, gym money, a winter house in the tropics, and lots and lots of dining-out funds.

janmcn 09-30-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murray607 (Post 755057)
No Patio Villas under $150,000 now and some are in the $180,000's and no discounts.

Looks like a 7-10% rise in price in a past year


People can ask whatever price they want, whether it's $180,000 for a patio villa or $2.4 million for a mansion. How many people are willing to pay those prices remains to be seen.

mickey100 09-30-2013 01:40 PM

Yes. Starting to feel like housing is in a bubble that could burst again like 2003 - 2006.

Villages PL 09-30-2013 02:38 PM

Some people, who move to The Villages, may have a net worth of 5, 10, 20, 30 million or more. So it may be that spending 2 million on a home is not that big of a decision. They might consider it a bargain.

sgiamp1 09-30-2013 05:54 PM

2373 Baypoint Way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bike42 (Post 753676)
That's 2373 Baypoint Way in Pennecamp. Bought for $1,350,000 in 2011. This one is apparently not being sold furnished ... (The $2,400,000 one in Bridgeport at Miona Shores is extravagantly furnished). It will be interesting to see if these homes sell and at what price.

Can you please tell me where you found 2373 Baypoint Way listed? I took a ride past it today and didn't see anything to indicate it is for sale. I also checked Realtor.com and couldn't find anything there either. Thanks

DougB 09-30-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltaguy (Post 755033)
You are outnumbered in your opinion by about 8,000,000 to 1.

Make that 8,000,000 to 2. I'm with Dr. O Boogie on this one.

DonH57 09-30-2013 07:46 PM

Some people love big cities and some don't.Even if I had the money I would never ever buy real estate in Manhattan or any big city. I do very much enjoy visiting NYC every chance I get. It is one of my favorites. I have to also side with Winston O Boogie as well.

Steve & Deanna 09-30-2013 08:34 PM

Oh well, everyone has wants and some needs. Personally, if I had the money, I doubt I'd spend $2M on a home.....but that's us.

renielarson 09-30-2013 09:55 PM

I'd never consider a house on Lake Miona ever being worth $2,000,000 with the lake being only 418 acres. You are paying for the view and maybe a little fishing if that's what you do. However, a house on Tellico Lake in Tennessee is a different story. The recreational lake has 15,560 acres of surface, is beautiful and lined with thick foliage and trees. Eventually, we hope to have another home built there as we are boaters and think this is the best place for investment.

mickey100 10-01-2013 05:55 AM

You think like I do. There are plenty of places, wonderful locations with a lot to offer, where you'll get more bang for the buck for that level of $$.

graciegirl 10-01-2013 06:13 AM

As my sweet husband will say, the market sets the price. If people think that the view from that home is one of the best in The Villages and they have the money to buy it, they will buy it, and I am pretty danged sure they will have the money to buy it too.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and worth is established by the buyer.

but I am pretty sure of this too, that home will NOT sell for that price OR anywhere near it unless they have it professionally staged, it does not show like a two million dollar home inside. It could be spectacular, in my opinon. C France's assessment was correct as usual.

I am speaking of it as a commodity now, and mean no ill will to the folks who lived in it and loved it the way it is decorated.

Big fan of HGTV, don'tcha know?

Here is MY guess of it's worth, when staged properly. 1.4million. You can ask anything, what it sells for is another thing.

GaryW 10-01-2013 06:18 AM

One thing I know about people with lots of money,, they did not get it by spending it just because they had it. THey got it by being smart with what they spend and on what,,,, A view is a view, but if the house does not dictate 2.4 mil then you have problems.

mickey100 10-01-2013 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryW;755***
One thing I know about people with lots of money,, they did not get it by spending it just because they had it. THey got it by being smart with what they spend and on what,,,, A view is a view, but if the house does not dictate 2.4 mil then you have problems.

Exactly. If you take a 400k home and try to sell it for 2.4 mil you are essentially saying the view/lot is worth 2 million. I havent seen one place in The Villages that could make that claim, although our resident sales person will probably argue otherwise.

graciegirl 10-01-2013 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 755437)
Exactly. If you take a 400k home and try to sell it for 2.4 mil you are essentially saying the view/lot is worth 2 million. I havent seen one place in The Villages that could make that claim, although our resident sales person (??? are you thinking I am a sales person? I am not. The people who know me, know that)will probably argue otherwise.



2 West 67th Street #1213DE, New York NY - Trulia

I ask all of you, which would YOU choose between the house on Lake Miona and this drab place?

GaryW 10-01-2013 06:57 AM

I want this one.
3907 Oceanshore Blvd - Palm Coast, FL - Hammock Dunes - MLS 547688 - 386 Real Estate

I mean if you are just throwing views out there..... The house has to be worth the investment, No way is that lot or view worth 1-2 mill. for 2.4 mil, then you are saying that house alone is 1 Mil. Then the lot has to be 1.5 Mill. Not seeing it.

With that being said, The Villages is a great and amazing place. But got to look at the big picture. JUST MHO

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 10-01-2013 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltaguy (Post 755033)
You are outnumbered in your opinion by about 8,000,000 to 1.

In fact the people that live in NYC are outnumbered by about 40,000,000 to 1.

And don't forget, the vast majority of those people living their do not have penthouse views overlooking Central Park.

graciegirl 10-01-2013 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryW (Post 755449)
I want this one.
3907 Oceanshore Blvd - Palm Coast, FL - Hammock Dunes - MLS 547688 - 386 Real Estate

I mean if you are just throwing views out there..... The house has to be worth the investment, No way is that lot or view worth 1-2 mill. for 2.4 mil, then you are saying that house alone is 1 Mil. Then the lot has to be 1.5 Mill. Not seeing it.

With that being said, The Villages is a great and amazing place. But got to look at the big picture. JUST MHO


A home is worth what a person is willing to pay for it.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 10-01-2013 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 755463)
A home is worth what a person is willing to pay for it.


BINGO!

And not just a home. That is true of everything that we buy and sell.


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