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chachacha 10-22-2013 11:21 AM

Sanitation Snit
 
i am usually a very sweet, mild person but i just had a very unpleasant phone encounter with the monopoly sanitation dept for sumter county. we are forced to pay $18 per month for our pickup whether here or not, which i understand. but as a single woman i make very little garbage and usually put it out in a small bag from walmart or publix....often it is left at the curb. this weekend i had a big party and since i do not have black plastic bags i used clear recycling bags for the obvious garbage of dirty paper plates, aluminum pans, etc....the one bag that was white from Belk was taken and the other three smelly bags were left on the curb....When i called to ask for a pickup, the man to whom i spoke was rude and rattling off the rules about black or white for garbage and clear for recycling. I guess i am forced to buy those expensive black plastic bags for a tiny amount of garbage and to endure the abuse of ill-mannered employees in Florida's Friendliest Home Town! does anyone else resent this monopoly?

Bogie Shooter 10-22-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chachacha (Post 766896)
i am usually a very sweet, mild person but i just had a very unpleasant phone encounter with the monopoly sanitation dept for sumter county. we are forced to pay $18 per month for our pickup whether here or not, which i understand. but as a single woman i make very little garbage and usually put it out in a small bag from walmart or publix....often it is left at the curb. this weekend i had a big party and since i do not have black plastic bags i used clear recycling bags for the obvious garbage of dirty paper plates, aluminum pans, etc....the one bag that was white from Belk was taken and the other three smelly bags were left on the curb....When i called to ask for a pickup, the man to whom i spoke was rude and rattling off the rules about black or white for garbage and clear for recycling. I guess i am forced to buy those expensive black plastic bags for a tiny amount of garbage and to endure the abuse of ill-mannered employees in Florida's Friendliest Home Town! does anyone else resent this monopoly?

The person you talked to should have better bedside manners. However, rules are rules and the black plastic bags are not that expensive.
Trash haulers are no different here than anywhere else.....the guy that wins the contract hauls the trash! Monopoly?:shrug:

HMLRHT1 10-22-2013 11:48 AM

You can resent it all you want, but if you want to have your garbage picked up then you have to do it the way they instruct. Buy the bags and since u don't usually use them normally then they will last you a looonnnggg time for other parties or such in the future.

Parker 10-22-2013 11:48 AM

You perhaps misspelled the second word in the Title of your problem? ;)

(Now I've done it. I've been bad)

Bryant 10-22-2013 12:02 PM

That was great. :mademyday:

njbchbum 10-22-2013 12:33 PM

chax3 - the dollar stores sell the black trash bags and would probably serve you well since you don't need that many of them!

pooh 10-22-2013 01:54 PM

They'll take white bags, too, so you can use the tall trash can white bags which are smaller.

Having clear bags for recycling and black or white bags for trash allow for quicker pick-up on trash day....no trying to determine whether a bag is trash or recyclables.

janmcn 10-22-2013 03:08 PM

The white Publix brand bags are under $2.00 for 15 bags. That's not a big investment.

justjim 10-22-2013 03:18 PM

OP: I agree with you in principle----you shouldn't have to pay for service you don't get. Unfortunately, it appears as long as you live here in TV, nothing you can do to change the fact you have to pay for trash pickup even though you are gone for several months.

And to think that some don't care for snowbirds. Without them taxes and fees would be much higher.

Bogie Shooter 10-22-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 767029)
OP: I agree with you in principle----you shouldn't have to pay for service you don't get. Unfortunately, it appears as long as you live here in TV, nothing you can do to change the fact you have to pay for trash pickup even though you are gone for several months.

And to think that some don't care for snowbirds. Without them taxes and fees would be much higher.

And when they come on here and bitch about the snowbirds, we quickly set them straight!

mrdarcy 10-22-2013 03:57 PM

Just do what the trash man asks--black or white for garbage, clear for recycling--make their lives easier so they don't have to guess which is garbage and which is recycling. Picking up and hauling trash is a dirty job and more so in the summer. Yes, we pay for that service, but it is a service. Trash men deserve as much respect and graciousness on our part as we should show to other service people. I often thank people for coming to work that day on the occasions I need to interact with them. The fact that they came to work means my taxes are probably not supporting them on welfare, and they themselves are contributing taxes to pay for other services I enjoy.

Buy the correct bags. It's not a lot to ask.

travelguy 10-23-2013 07:15 AM

i thought that we had to have white bags for regular trash, clear bags for recycling, and paper bags for lawn and garden. in my neighborhood i find that everyone uses all sorts of bags and all of the stuff gets collected. i guess some of it depends on the operators of the trash trucks.

Polar Bear 10-23-2013 07:24 AM

As Pooh said, they'll take the black or white for trash, which from my experience can include modest amounts of yard waste. Then the clear for recyclables and you're all set. Not really that bad. :^)

Ohiogirl 10-23-2013 07:38 AM

they'll take any bags but clear
 
my experience is that the trash collectors take everything but stuff in the clear recycling bags or cardboard bundled separately, although I think they've left a single flattened cardboard box with a recycling bag on top of it for the recycling truck.

If you have really small amounts of trash, you could also use the grocery store plastic bags or slightly larger bags from any retail store.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 10-23-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 767029)
OP: I agree with you in principle----you shouldn't have to pay for service you don't get. Unfortunately, it appears as long as you live here in TV, nothing you can do to change the fact you have to pay for trash pickup even though you are gone for several months.

And to think that some don't care for snowbirds. Without them taxes and fees would be much higher.

It the society in which we live, we all pay for services that we don't get or don't use or don't use very much. How many times have you called the fire dept. for example? Some have used them and were glad that they were available when they were needed, but hopefully most of us will never need their services.

The upside of a system like this is that the services are there for everyone when they are needed. The downside is that we don't have an alternative.
Some municipalities have gone to private collectors and some still require that residents bring their own trash to the dump.

In the cities and towns that have private contractors, some contract one collector for the entire town and some allow residents to have a choice. In those cases, residents are usually allowed one or two bags or a container, provided by the company, full. People pay extra if they have additional trash.

There are positives and negatives to both systems, but there is no excuse for rude behavior on the phone.

chachacha 10-23-2013 11:59 AM

yes, i have calmed down, bought the black bags, and will just have to hold my nose until friday morning pickup! in reality i was really very preoccupied with a family problem and did not have the patience i usually do when i found three big bags of old turkey bones (the worst for smell) still on my curb when i went out at noon. i wondered why my small white sweet bay bag was ok but my small brown publix bag was left there. now i know! sorry for the snit!

kittygilchrist 10-23-2013 01:15 PM

I know how unusual it is for Dianne to complain about anything! She has incredibly upbeat energy and I knew when I saw the post that incident caught her by surprise.

l2ridehd 10-23-2013 01:27 PM

Remember the ice cream. :D

murray607 10-23-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chachacha;767***
yes, i have calmed down, bought the black bags, and will just have to hold my nose until friday morning pickup! in reality i was really very preoccupied with a family problem and did not have the patience i usually do when i found three big bags of old turkey bones (the worst for smell) still on my curb when i went out at noon. i wondered why my small white sweet bay bag was ok but my small brown publix bag was left there. now i know! sorry for the snit!

We all need to vent sometimes. Having someone being rude to you tends to put you on the offensive.

I wonder if the Sanitation Dept records phone calls. You could lay a complaint re the persons attitude and the dept may be able to review your call.

Vernster 10-23-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdarcy (Post 767054)
Just do what the trash man asks--black or white for garbage, clear for recycling--make their lives easier so they don't have to guess which is garbage and which is recycling. Picking up and hauling trash is a dirty job and more so in the summer. Yes, we pay for that service, but it is a service. Trash men deserve as much respect and graciousness on our part as we should show to other service people. I often thank people for coming to work that day on the occasions I need to interact with them. The fact that they came to work means my taxes are probably not supporting them on welfare, and they themselves are contributing taxes to pay for other services I enjoy.

Buy the correct bags. It's not a lot to ask.

We'll said. And don't forget the trash collectors on your holiday tip list. They are always just so grateful.

karostay 10-24-2013 06:40 AM

Seems typical that in the villages after a period of time Villagers believe they are exempt from rules and procedures which were clearly stated during closing. I'm ure the sanitation dept didn't single any one person out .

PaPaLarry 10-24-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chachacha;767***
yes, i have calmed down, bought the black bags, and will just have to hold my nose until friday morning pickup! in reality i was really very preoccupied with a family problem and did not have the patience i usually do when i found three big bags of old turkey bones (the worst for smell) still on my curb when i went out at noon. i wondered why my small white sweet bay bag was ok but my small brown publix bag was left there. now i know! sorry for the snit!

Your a good sport, and I'm sure you will have your garbage out in time, for the next pick up. Understanding why the different bags, and two different trucks on pick up day, (1 for recycled, & 1 for garbage) has let your venting, change to another satisfied customer!! Actually I feel the collectors do a great job. Keep Smil'n!!

CFrance 10-24-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 767029)
OP: I agree with you in principle----you shouldn't have to pay for service you don't get. Unfortunately, it appears as long as you live here in TV, nothing you can do to change the fact you have to pay for trash pickup even though you are gone for several months.

And to think that some don't care for snowbirds. Without them taxes and fees would be much higher.

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 767050)
And when they come on here and bitch about the snowbirds, we quickly set them straight!

No snit!

SALYBOW 10-24-2013 11:21 PM

Soory to hear of your troubles
 
If you had told me sooner I could have brought you some bags. It must depend on the driver because as long as we keep it on the right side of the drive they take any color. They don't have to touch it; a big claw comes out and picks it up throwing it in the truck. Pretty slick.

By the way, have you been getting my PMs? That is not to be confused with...


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