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One person's opinion of The Villages
Please check out www.andrewblechman/leisurville to see what some people think about America's Friendliest Hometown.
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This is mostly fiction and that is just my opinion.
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who said what they said has to be true.
A collection of isloated (maybe) incidents, hearsay and just plain old fabrication. What ever it takes to sell a book. How did we make it to over 100,000? How did all the national brand companies decide to invest in a presence here? Reality and the facts put the book in its rightful place......trashcan. btk |
I'll admit I never read the book and I won't.
From what I have read on this forum, in general, Mr. Blechman did not have a very flattering opinion of TV. I wouldn't let someone who has to sell books to make a living influence, my opinion. I love it here and I will be staying here until I croack. Rivet. Billethkid said it best. The book belongs in the trash can. |
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I read it and instead of discouraging me, it encouraged me to come. The author is at a different point in his life. What's important to him at his age is much less so at mine. Some of the things he discussed as negatives, I actually found to be positives.
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He had his 15 minutes of fame..........................
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Before our preview we read the book
My husband wanted to get pointers from Mr. Midnight!
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Trash, after living here for 18 months I realize that now, it is so much BETTER than we ever imagined...
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If I remember correctly, at the end of the book he talked about how nice it was to be back home....with people his OWN age! Umm, isn't that one of the many things we love about TV, that we are with people that we share common experiences and memories with? His wanting to be with his peers seems so hypocritical when he talks about Villagers being selfish.
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I have read the book a couple of times and found it a good read. Andrew has his opinion and I have mine. After a few emails, he understands where I am coming from in my desire to live in The Villages. He seems like a decent enough guy to me.
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Then there's a few who don't live here who, in the interest of either selling their publication or simply drawing attention to themselves, opine on things they really have no experience with and don't understand. If they don't want to live here...great! I hope they discover some other place that they like better. |
This guy has an axe to grind, and the reader comment at an NPR article (quoted below) about the book/author pretty much sums up what that axe is.
Who would buy this book when you can come here and stay for a week in a preview home for $100-150/night, or in a hotel, and actually talk IN PERSON with dozens or even hundreds of residents at the squares at night who will tell you EXACTLY what they think of TV?? By doing that a person would have the distinct advantage of seeing facial expression, tone of voice and body language of the resident/snowbird, instead of relying on the written word of a freelance writer you've never met, and whose freelance income could be so unsteady as to be unable to qualify for a home loan! Here's the NPR article reader comment: "Brim Stone • 4 years ago −---------------------------- So. I have this question: Does anybody living or snow birding here in TV really l-o-n-g for the "shallow artificial mirrage of reality" that would be living as a senior citizen in the lovely "revitalized" and "secured" downtown (OOPS...I mean "city center") of Detroit, Baltimore, Cleveland, Newark, Oakland, St. Louis, KCMO, New Orlaeans, Memphis, etc......which happen to be in the top ten most dangerous cities in the U.S.?? Most dangerous U.S. cities - Detroit (1) - CNNMoney |
or even residing in a idyllic bucolic Vermont village? The state with the biggest drug problem: It's Vermont.
Now who would have thought? The Villages looks better and better to me compared to the alternatives. |
Andrew Blechman in his book Leisureville has given some valid background information on retirement places in general and The Villages in particular...but..
If you wanna know what it is like to LIVE here and what motivated people to move here, ask either a happy or disgruntled villager. We are not like most populations in Florida as we are all older and more conservative than most and we would have to have a bit of pioneer spirit to move away from the familiar and the loved and the well mostly COLD areas we did. We were seeking something and most have found it in this place geared for us in the older (and wiser) population. Many seek opportunities to do healthy things for our bodies and our minds and we find them here. What ruffles my feathers and gets my knickers in a hitch is the assumption in the book which is really a social commentary that we olders have no right to lay down our civic responsibilities. Well Junior, we sure do. Most of us have served on as many committees for improving things in our lifetimes as Andrew has years in his life. We have done as much as we can to improve the world. It is someone else's turn now. And we still have many opportunities to volunteer here in areas that help our fellow man....and to help each other. So bottom line is that Andrew is a writer who aimed to sell books and added a lot of sex and a lot of gossip and created a summary of a very busy fellow called Mr. Midnight. I hope that Andrew saved all of his money from the book proceeds so that when he gets old enough and wise enough he can retire here where I am sure he will sing a different tune. |
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Blechman? IMO, the man is an idiot who got lucky with one book. (Not the pigeon book-LOL)
What has he done lately? |
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Stats bear out the fact that Vermont is indeed the worst drug-riddled state in the Union and that makes many of us want to avoid it and by the same token; it's probably an attractive statistic for the people one wouldn't want moving in and taking over their state. You can advise us of the many wonderful qualities of Vermont but most people can't and will not see beyond the drug issue. This is true of the information Blechman claims of The Villages, everyone from the outside believes the worst. |
Nope, not denying freedom of speech but IMO he's still an idiot who wanted to sell a book and then followed it up with nothing.
Just your typical one trick pony. |
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"Andrew is still raising a child. He enjoyed having the elders in the neighborhood to give his daughter a sense of the "generations".Usually it is the desire to have somebody around to babysit for free at short notice. His disdain for "the elders" and the "generations" is quite evident in his writings and reviews. And anybody who resents people like us for actually enjoying what we have EARNED and SAVED over the last 40-50 years is just a jerk. Period. |
How would he like it if we did a social commentary on him and his beloved place to live?
We could say that he SHOULD move somewhere where he could do more good than just hanging out in his nice neighborhood. When the word "should" enters the debate it is hypothetical and opinionated and philosophical and based on assumptions that not everyone shares. I still wonder if there is a Mr. Midnight and wonder whether it:shocked: has dropped off from overuse. Inquiring mind, don't cha know.:1rotfl: |
Never have read the book nor even seen it. Whatever Blechman has to say is up to him. If someone chooses to read it, that's up to them.
Sandy and I are doing o.k. forming our own perspectives on TV as time goes on. Somehow, we've managed to do just fine without the book! :D Bill :) |
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I found Andrew's research into the background of 55 and over communities, especially The Villages, unexpectedly comprehensive for a popular read, as well as apparently factually accurate. Mr. Midnight's exploits as well as the goings on of his party-hearty acquaintances were certainly entertaining. Obviously Blechman had an agenda. As he saw things his neighbors who were active and supportive citizens living in his picture-book perfect New England town chose to abandon it for The Villages. As I see it Blechman viewed these folks as resources. They paid taxes which went to the schools although they no longer had children in school. They were actively involved in community affairs and so on. In his mind they were seceding although as a matter of principle (his) they still owed their money and time no matter their ages or that they were retired. Andrew kept beating his drum about how great living in a small New England town such as his (which happened to be in Massachusetts if I recall correctly) was no matter what one's age; that they should not leave it, especially to move to a community designed and operated for active seniors such as The Villages. He seemed to feel they were self indulgent and hedonistic, turning their backs on society at large and that they should continue to reside in his community, contributing their money and time. As I am now a senior of almost 72, safety for my body, my mind and my property are high on my list of priorities. I felt Blechman was painting way too rosy a picture of life in a small New England town. When I encountered for the very first time a few days ago the article on Vermont, a New England state, I felt it much in point in challenging Blechman's argument that seniors should remain in such communities rather than seek out havens from weather, taxes and crime among other things. |
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No one said you denied the huge drug issue in Vermont, but you did go on to come to Vermont's defense advising us it's not that bad. This is what The Villager's are saying about that book, it's not that bad here, that is why the book upsets us. I wouldn't say Vermont is catching up to the rest of society, by the stats, it has surpassed society drug use and Maine, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Massachusetts, etc. all have beautiful color and views too. |
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No place is perfect but when close to 50o/o of the people are moving from another part of Florida, we must be doing something right. I enjoy excitement to a degree so if there is a speakeasy in TV after 9 pm, I might like to visit or a nice piano bar with Mr. or Ms Night sitting across from the table, why not. I wish there was a little bit of Leisureville for real. I might visit once every three months to see the other side of wild life. What I do not understand is why some unsociable people live here too. Do they enjoy this place? Luckily, they are a small percentage. They are missing out on the fun.
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[QUOTE=senior citizen;771803]My husband said that if she is reading that our drug problem in Vermont is the worst in the nation.......then it must be because of our small population.
In other words, it's in relation to the small population. Senior, hit on the link under post #17. The drug use cited for Vermont is per capita, so if Vermont was more populated, the problem may be even bigger yet. It's not the end of the world for Vermont. All of this discourse is in correlation to your statement that you can't figure why everyone gets upset about a book that embellishes unsavory statements about The Villages. My response was a comparison from me stating your reaction if negative things were embellished about Vermont, you would be upset too. You ARE upset when Vermont is displayed in a less than decent way and you should be. Now perhaps you understand why that book upsets many in The Villages. |
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Actually, reading "Leisureville" is what got me to visit The Villages in the first place. I had never heard of The Villages.
Andrew pointed out that in his town (and no doubt in most communities of of any size), only a small percentage of taxes (<1/2%) went to support senior centers, senior activities and senior interests whereas a significant percentage (55%) went to support schools. Surely, in today's world a big chunk of municipal revenue in a typical multigenerational community goes to the police force, jails, and other public safety and welfare costs. In a city or town having serious illicit drug, burglary, robbery and violent crime issues public safety costs are percentagewise enormous. His neighbors were drawn to The Villages because it offered an affordable active lifestyle for people their age: golf courses, recreations centers, swimming pools, all sorts of clubs, dances, and many other activities attractive to seniors. Furthermore, although I do not recall it being mentioned they probably felt relatively safe in The Villages. Those were all very valid reasons for them to have made their move. |
2BNTV, nice to see you posting again. I hope you are settled in and living your dream.
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