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Villageshooter 11-03-2013 07:14 PM

Dogs and restaurants easy Solution
 
I have no problem with someone to bring dog to the restaurant, As long as they realized I have an app on my phone that will emitt high-pitched squeal That only the dog can hear, So if you have a deaf dog , He will be very happy and content around me, However if his hearing is good, He will not be a happy camper, If your little pooch starts getting upset you might want to ask for a to go box because I will not be turning the app off Kind a like going to church when you have to take the baby out to the cry room. Can be quite entertaining. the app is free in the app store, you have to fight fire with fire!

Easyrider 11-03-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Villageshooter (Post 773658)
I have no problem with someone to bring dog to the restaurant, As long as they realized I have an app on my phone that will emitt high-pitched squeal That only the dog can hear, So if you have a deaf dog , He will be very happy and content around me, However if his hearing is good, He will not be a happy camper, If your little pooch starts getting upset you might want to ask for a to go box because I will not be turning the app off Kind a like going to church when you have to take the baby out to the cry room. Can be quite entertaining. the app is free in the app store, you have to fight fire with fire!

It's gonna get ugly, but I like it......only IF it is somewhere they are not supposed to be and right now the only place they are supposed to be is Cody's. .:mmmm: :police:

Jaggy 11-03-2013 07:29 PM

I am constantly amazed by people.. why in the world would you want to do that to a dog?? Is he bitting you?? did you step in his poop? Or urine?? Cruel App to entertain a bully.. I am not agreeing that dogs should be at the restaurants but provoking a dog with this is just plain mean.. GRINCH !!

Easyrider 11-03-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaggy (Post 773666)
I am constantly amazed by people.. why in the world would you want to do that to a dog?? Is he bitting you?? did you step in his poop? Or urine?? Cruel App to entertain a bully.. I am not agreeing that dogs should be at the restaurants but provoking a dog with this is just plain mean.. GRINCH !!

NOT....keep the cart behind the horse. IF it is somewhere they are not supposed to be and right now the only place they are supposed to be is Cody's.

Lovey2 11-03-2013 07:33 PM

Really! Find a high pitched squeal app for non-thinking dog owners. The poor pooches hafta go wherever their leash takes them.

Jaggy 11-03-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Denise Frayne (Post 773670)
Really! Find a high pitched squeal app for non-thinking dog owners. The poor pooches hafta go wherever their leash takes them.

Love it !!!

Hancle704 11-03-2013 07:37 PM

Is there an app that will also shut down cellphones of those that insist on carrying on loud conversations in restaurants and refuse to mute them in Church?

TheVillageChicken 11-03-2013 07:39 PM

This works for teenagers too, right?

Villageshooter 11-03-2013 07:41 PM

all is ok with me,,, however i dont care to eat and watch an animal lick various parts of its body!

DougB 11-03-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 773677)
This works for teenagers too, right?

Teenagers are more like cats than dogs

1. Neither teenagers nor cats turn their heads when you call them by name.

2. No matter what you do for them, it is not enough. Indeed, all humane efforts are barely adequate to compensate for the privilege of waiting on them hand and foot.

3. You rarely see a cat walking outside of the house with an adult human being, and it can be safely said that no teenager in his or her right mind wants to be seen in public with his or her parents.

4. Even if you tell jokes as well as David Letterman, neither your cat nor your teen will ever crack a smile.

5. No cat or teenager shares you taste in music.

6. Cats and teenagers can lie on the living-room sofa for hours on end without
moving, barely breathing.

7. Cats have nine lives. Teenagers carry on as if they did.

8. Cats and teenagers yawn in exactly the same manner, communicating that ultimate human ecstasy -- a sense of complete and utter boredom.

9. Cats and teenagers do not improve anyone's furniture.

10. Cats that are free to roam outside sometimes have been known to return in the middle of the night to deposit a dead animal in your bedroom. Teenagers are not above that sort of behaviour.

Thus, if you must raise teenagers, the best sources of advice are not other parents, but veterinarians. It is also a good idea to keep a guidebook on cats at hand at all times. And remember, above all else, put out the food and do not make any sudden moves in their direction. When they make up their minds, they will finally come to you for some affection and comfort, and it will be a triumphant moment for all concerned.

Easyrider 11-03-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 773683)
Teenagers are more like cats than dogs.

Off topic, and I assume you are not being serious and trying to be funny, but fortunately for us none of this was the case. Most teens model the behavior they see from parents.

Pepperhead 11-03-2013 08:01 PM

So a true service dog will just be collateral damage.

redwitch 11-03-2013 08:06 PM

Whoever created the app should be pelted with rotten tomatoes every time this app is used. Whoever would use such an app to hurt an innocent dog deserves to be hung by his or her short hairs.

johnboy 11-03-2013 08:17 PM

And if there's a service dog in the same restaurant then that disabled person would have to leave also, your all heart!

rdhdleo 11-03-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 773704)
Whoever created the app should be pelted with rotten tomatoes every time this app is used. Whoever would use such an app to hurt an innocent dog deserves to be hung by his or her short hairs.

:agree::clap2:

LndLocked 11-03-2013 08:34 PM

I have and app in my head that detects pinheads when I read a posting written by one.

graciegirl 11-03-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LndLocked (Post 773717)
I have and app in my head that detects pinheads when I read a posting written by one.


Me too.

I hate bullying by anonymous people.

CFrance 11-03-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 773668)
NOT....keep the cart behind the horse. IF it is somewhere they are not supposed to be and right now that is only at Cody's.

That is not what the OP said. He made no distinction about whether the dog is in a place allowed by law or not.

DonH57 11-03-2013 09:09 PM

Why am I not surprised an app like that could really exist. Some people actually desire to harm animals for amusement. Imagine a service dog or otherwise bolting loose for safety and causing an accident at someone's jest.

CFrance 11-03-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 773728)
Why am I not surprised an app like that could really exist. Some people actually desire to harm animals for amusement. Imagine a service dog or otherwise bolting loose for safety and causing an accident at someone's jest.

There are mean-spirited bullies everywhere. There are also trolls.

graciegirl 11-03-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 773728)
Why am I not surprised an app like that could really exist. Some people actually desire to harm animals for amusement. Imagine a service dog or otherwise bolting loose for safety and causing an accident at someone's jest.

Isn't harming animals some kind of risk factor for some kind of mental illness or criminal activity? They say serial killers often begin by hurting animals.

I am more than sickened by this whole thread and ask that it be closed.
http://askthepsych.com/atp/2009/06/0...-animal-abuse/

missypie 11-03-2013 09:21 PM

Agree Grace. This is sick beyond words.

Easyrider 11-03-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 773735)
Isn't harming animals some kind of risk factor for some kind of mental illness or criminal activity? They say serial killers often begin by hurting animals.

I am more than sickened by this whole thread and ask that it be closed.

Maybe we should all be as passionate about protecting PEOPLE that are terrified of dogs or are allergic to them, etc. etc, etc. When we place animals over people it is definitely a sign of mental illness.

THE RESPONSIBILITY PROJECT
PETS & ANIMALS
UP FOR DEBATE: PUTTING PETS BEFORE PEOPLE
Is it O.K. for humans to care more for their pets than the people in their lives?
Writing in The Wall Street Journal, reporter Elizabeth Bernstein notes that “love triangles” between people and pets “might be the trickiest types of relationships.”
In the Florida home of Marina and Kirk Wolak, one-year-old German shepherd Buck gets better meals than his masters. Mrs. Wolak recently served the dog “steamed broccoli for breakfast, raw ribs for a snack, and a grilled chicken breast and baked sweet potato for dinner,” while her husband and daughter supped on simple chicken. Said Mr. Wolak, “There is only one answer to fixing the wedge between us, and that is to get rid of the dog.”

graciegirl 11-03-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 773743)
Maybe we should all be as passionate about protecting PEOPLE that are terrified of dogs or are allergic to them, etc. etc, etc. When we place animals over people it is definitely a sign of mental illness.

No one is placing animals over people in this situation. I am terrified of people who would act this way. Your reasoning makes no more sense than harming someone who is smoking, by making a loud blast close to their ears. EVEN if we don't like smoking and we have an allergic reaction, we aren't allowed to harm someone.

Intelligent and fair and thoughtful people remove themselves from the situation, they don't cause harm.

Carl in Tampa 11-03-2013 09:37 PM

This is simple. Florida law prohibits animals inside restaurants with the exception of Service Dogs. All other animals are prohibited.

In some jurisdictions, where specific enabling laws have been passed, pet dogs (only dogs) may be allowed in OUTSIDE dining areas.

Therefore, there can be no excuse for doing anything to discomfit Service Dogs inside a restaurant or pet dogs in an outside dining area, where authorized, since both are lawfully present.

Shame on anyone who would do so.

http://restaurantandlodging.com/stor...20Bulletin.pdf

:police:

Easyrider 11-03-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 773751)
No one is placing animals over people in this situation. I am terrified of people who would act this way. Your reasoning makes no more sense than harming someone who is smoking, by making a loud blast close to their ears. EVEN if we don't like smoking and we have an allergic reaction, we aren't allowed to harm someone.

Intelligent and fair and thoughtful people remove themselves from the situation, they don't cause harm.

Your opposing opinion is noted but it makes perfect sense, putting and animal's rights over a human's rights. If it is legal to smoke there then you should leave if you don't like smoke. If the dog is allowed there then you should leave if you are afraid of dogs. If the dog is where it should not be then the dog should leave. No one is complaining about true service dogs either. Dogs are subjected to high pitch sounds all the time throughout the day such as sirens etc. Some are acting like you would be setting off an explosion beside them, good grief....

Foolish to compare this app to animal abuse and if so then pets are being repeatedly abused by bringing them out to where they are subjected to sirens and other loud high frequency sounds...

Try and explain it to this restaurant worker...

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/1...d-worries.html

It’s unclear what set off the cane corso breed that ripped into waitress Amy Calandrella’s lip on Sept. 1. When the Van Dyke Cafe server bent down to give a dog a bowl of water, the dog bit her lip. She needed more than 300 stitches and underwent more than seven hours of surgery to repair the wound.

DonH57 11-03-2013 09:48 PM

As a responsible dog owner I know where and when to take my dog in public. I also know part of the reason people fear dogs or other animals is because they don't understand them or their nature.

CFrance 11-03-2013 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=Easyrider;773757]Makes perfect sense, putting and animal's rights over a human's rights. If it legal to smoke there then you should leave. If the dog is allowed there then you should leave if afraid of dogs. If the dog is where it should not be then the dog should leave. Dogs are subjected to high pitch sounds all the time throughout the day such as sirens etc. Some are acting like you would be setting off an explosion beside them, good grief....

Try and explain it to this restaurant worker...

Dog mauling on Lincoln Road worries pet owners and cafe servers - Miami-Dade - MiamiHerald.com

It’s unclear what set off the cane corso breed that ripped into waitress Amy Calandrella’s lip on Sept. 1. When the Van Dyke Cafe server bent down to give a dog a bowl of water, the dog bit her lip. She needed more than 300 stitches and underwent more than seven hours of surgery to repair the wound.[/QUOTE

A siren and any other normal sound encountered during the course of a day outside does not hurt a dog's ears. What the OP was suggesting does and amounts to animal cruelty.

Indydealmaker 11-03-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 773668)
NOT....keep the cart behind the horse. IF it is somewhere they are not supposed to be and right now that is only at Cody's.

So, if I read you correctly, you are saying the only place they are not supposed to be is Cody's?

Indydealmaker 11-03-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 773743)
Maybe we should all be as passionate about protecting PEOPLE that are terrified of dogs or are allergic to them, etc. etc, etc. When we place animals over people it is definitely a sign of mental illness.

Are you sure you are a biker? Most bikers I ride with would far more prefer animals over people. Dogs are rarely rude and judgmental.

Carl in Tampa 11-03-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hancle704 (Post 773674)
Is there an app that will also shut down cellphones of those that insist on carrying on loud conversations in restaurants and refuse to mute them in Church?

Believe it or not, there IS a piece of equipment that will do this. It is not an app, but equipment. For decades some police agency Hostage Negotiators have had it available.

It simulates being a cell tower and "captures" all nearby cell phone signals, keeping them from going to an actual tower where they can complete a call.

The purpose is to prevent the bad guys from communicating with anyone other than the negotiators.

Unfortunately, it is not available to the general population, and its use would be illegal anyway. It is illegal to interfere with wire and wireless communications in this manner.

:police:

Easyrider 11-03-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 773763)
So, if I read you correctly, you are saying the only place they are not supposed to be is Cody's?

I think if you read it Cody's is the only outside place they are allowed..or at least that has the proper permit whether they meet all the requirements or not.

Easyrider 11-03-2013 10:14 PM

[quote=CFrance;773761]
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Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 773757)
Makes perfect sense, putting and animal's rights over a human's rights. If it legal to smoke there then you should leave. If the dog is allowed there then you should leave if afraid of dogs. If the dog is where it should not be then the dog should leave. Dogs are subjected to high pitch sounds all the time throughout the day such as sirens etc. Some are acting like you would be setting off an explosion beside them, good grief....

Try and explain it to this restaurant worker...

Dog mauling on Lincoln Road worries pet owners and cafe servers - Miami-Dade - MiamiHerald.com

It’s unclear what set off the cane corso breed that ripped into waitress Amy Calandrella’s lip on Sept. 1. When the Van Dyke Cafe server bent down to give a dog a bowl of water, the dog bit her lip. She needed more than 300 stitches and underwent more than seven hours of surgery to repair the wound.[/QUOTE

A siren and any other normal sound encountered during the course of a day outside does not hurt a dog's ears. What the OP was suggesting does and amounts to animal cruelty.

Of course not since we choose to expose them to sirens...it is OK..

Sirens
A dog's mournful howling at sirens has been assumed to be triggered by pain, or at least, an unpleasant sensation.


THE RESPONSIBILITY PROJECT
PETS & ANIMALS
UP FOR DEBATE: PUTTING PETS BEFORE PEOPLE
Is it O.K. for humans to care more for their pets than the people in their lives?
Writing in The Wall Street Journal, reporter Elizabeth Bernstein notes that “love triangles” between people and pets “might be the trickiest types of relationships.”
In the Florida home of Marina and Kirk Wolak, one-year-old German shepherd Buck gets better meals than his masters. Mrs. Wolak recently served the dog “steamed broccoli for breakfast, raw ribs for a snack, and a grilled chicken breast and baked sweet potato for dinner,” while her husband and daughter supped on simple chicken. Said Mr. Wolak, “There is only one answer to fixing the wedge between us, and that is to get rid of the dog.”

Easyrider 11-03-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 773766)
Are you sure you are a biker? Most bikers I ride with would far more prefer animals over people. Dogs are rarely rude and judgmental.


Owning a bike doesn't turn anyone into an animal fanatic.

Dogs are not rude, Tell that to the waitress in the link below that needed 300 stitches....thanks to a dog, I do value people over animals...every-time and especially those many children killed or that have their faces torn to pieces and scarred for life by an animal.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/1...d-worries.html

wendyquat 11-03-2013 10:19 PM

Frankly I DO like animals more than most people! They love without reservation and they don't SPOUT off with stupid ideas!:0000000000luvmyhors:doggie::doggie::doggie:

CFrance 11-03-2013 10:22 PM

[quote=Easyrider;773771]
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 773761)

Of course not since we choose to do it...it is OK...”

Huh? What does that have to do with my response (which you quoted), which was: " A siren and any other normal sound encountered during the course of a day outside does not hurt a dog's ears. What the OP was suggesting does and amounts to animal cruelty."

Easyrider 11-03-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 773761)
A siren and any other normal sound encountered during the course of a day outside does not hurt a dog's ears. What the OP was suggesting does and amounts to animal cruelty.

Sirens
A dog's mournful howling at sirens has been assumed to be triggered by pain, or at least, an unpleasant sensation.


Try getting some proof that it is animal cruelty and then post it.

Animal cruelty, NOT according to the experts..

Are dog whistles humane and safe for my 1 year german shepherd?
• David R asked 4 years ago
So I just got this dog from he pound last week. He's really kind and sweet but sometimes he can be a little rough and too playful. He sometimes jumps on me or even tries to bite me. He won listen when I yell stop or wag my finger in front of him, but I downloaded this dog whistle application on my phone and it really scares my dog when I use it. However, I wanna know if it is safe to use and if it wont permanently harm him or make him want to attack me and turn on me?!?!?


Reply
Yes they are humane. So is Clicker Training. you can also get noise emitter collars that you activate by remote control when he is doing something he shouldn't be doing.

Dogs are happier when they know what their parameters are and have clear uncomplicated instructions from their owners.

Enroll in a novice obedience school....be active in being together and teaching him. Shepherds love to work and have tasks before them. They can be great dogs! Go for it.

Commit time for simple training everyday or walks. Have fun.

Barefoot 11-03-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 773735)
Isn't harming animals some kind of risk factor for some kind of mental illness or criminal activity? They say serial killers often begin by hurting animals. I am more than sickened by this whole thread .....

I agree Gracie. Some people actually think it is funny to hurt animals. Sad. :ohdear:

kittygilchrist 11-03-2013 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 773735)
Isn't harming animals some kind of risk factor for some kind of mental illness or criminal activity? They say serial killers often begin by hurting animals.

I am more than sickened by this whole thread and ask that it be closed.
Psychological Reasons Behind Animal Abuse

Gracie, in my past life as an expert witness in child abuse, I learned that there are three such indicators of a sick mind in a child:
cruelty to animals
setting fires
self injury

This thread is the most distasteful I have read yet...that people sit around fantasizing how to make animals suffer. That is really sick.

Easyrider 11-03-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 773780)
I agree Gracie. Some people actually think it is funny to hurt animals. Sad. :ohdear:

Hurt animals, say what? Dragging them around where they don't belong is much worse but we justify it because that's what we want to do ...:1rotfl:


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