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SanFranDianne 11-26-2013 03:30 AM

Thanksgiving & Hannukah
 
I read that Hannukah and Thanksgiving occur together this week, and it will be 79,000 years before this happens again. Our Jewish daughter-in-law is flying down with our son for the week. I thought about getting a little menorah and asking her to share some of her tradition with our grandkids and the other 12 family members (Christian) who are coming for Thanksgiving on Thursday. What do you think?

jblum315 11-26-2013 04:30 AM

I think that's a splendid idea. Get some dreidels for the children to play with.

GPGuar 11-26-2013 05:42 AM

I think it's a great idea also!:clap2:

tainsley 11-26-2013 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SanFranDianne (Post 787085)
I read that Hannukah and Thanksgiving occur together this week, and it will be 79,000 years before this happens again. Our Jewish daughter-in-law is flying down with our son for the week. I thought about getting a little menorah and asking her to share some of her tradition with our grandkids and the other 12 family members (Christian) who are coming for Thanksgiving on Thursday. What do you think?

That's a wonderful idea. I am sure your daughter-in-law will be glad to share her traditions with you. Last year we went to Spanish Springs with our friends for the lighting of the Menorah. It was wonderful...music, singing and my husband and I learned more about the history and significance of Hanukkah! Enjoy the day with your family and Happy Thanksgiving!

redwitch 11-26-2013 07:28 AM

What a beautiful idea! Dreidels are definitely in order.

graciegirl 11-26-2013 07:36 AM

Good for you. Excellent idea. I would like to see the Menorah lighting here too. Anyone know where and when?

tainsley 11-26-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 787124)
Good for you. Excellent idea. I would like to see the Menorah lighting here too. Anyone know where and when?

According to today's Daily Sun the Hanukkah Menorah Lighting Ceremony will be held Sunday at 3:00, Spanish Springs Town Square.

blueash 11-26-2013 10:47 AM

Just to think of it from a different perspective... If she is the only Jew in a family of non-Jews and she is coming to join you for T-giving.... And especially if some of these family members don't know her well... She may not want to be put on display as being "other" or she may see it as being special, but no matter how you do it, she is different. She may be comfortable with that, or not. I would pass this by your son and if he says go for it, then it should be your job to ask your DIL how she would like to proceed. This is an especially touchy subject if your family has fundamentalist members who will feel it is their obligation to try to "save" her or try to find her horns.

If there are to be any prayers you might also wish to consider the content of those prayers. While she has no right to dictate your words or the words of any other attendees, you can be certain that as the Jesus and savior words go up, so will her discomfort.

SanFranDianne 11-26-2013 05:37 PM

Being "other"
 
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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 787235)
Just to think of it from a different perspective... If she is the only Jew in a family of non-Jews and she is coming to join you for T-giving.... And especially if some of these family members don't know her well... She may not want to be put on display as being "other" or she may see it as being special, but no matter how you do it, she is different. She may be comfortable with that, or not. I would pass this by your son and if he says go for it, then it should be your job to ask your DIL how she would like to proceed. This is an especially touchy subject if your family has fundamentalist members who will feel it is their obligation to try to "save" her or try to find her horns.

If there are to be any prayers you might also wish to consider the content of those prayers. While she has no right to dictate your words or the words of any other attendees, you can be certain that as the Jesus and savior words go up, so will her discomfort.

Blessedly, our family would never try to change others (except maybe drug dealers et al), and they would never do anything to make the DIL feel uncomfortable. She is very loved. She always gets Christmas presents for us. I thought the menorah would give her a chance to share her customs. The DIL is fabulous with kids, and we'll have 3 little girls at dinner. As for prayers, Hanukkah is a Jewish Feast of Thanksgiving; I think the timing is perfect. Our tradition is to take turns talking about what makes us thankful.

Anyone know where to find dreidels?

socrafty 11-26-2013 05:47 PM

Target had dreidels a few weeks ago. If not the hallmark stores may.

NotGolfer 11-26-2013 05:49 PM

There is a lighting ceremony in Ocala at 6 pm tomorrow night on their square. No idea where to get the dreidels...maybe one of the gift shops, Target, TJMAXX, Pier 1

jane032657 11-26-2013 08:01 PM

Stein Mart in Ocala had menorahs, laser dreidels and dreidel games last week as well as Chanukah candles. I am sure your DIL would be honored you took her beliefs into consideration and I would suggest you think of making potato latkes instead of mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving...We are celebrating Thanksgivukkah with our daughter.

graciegirl 11-26-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jane032657 (Post 787501)
Stein Mart in Ocala had menorahs, laser dreidels and dreidel games last week as well as Chanukah candles. I am sure your DIL would be honored you took her beliefs into consideration and I would suggest you think of making potato latkes instead of mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving...We are celebrating Thanksgivukkah with our daughter.



No. You HAVE to have mashed potatoes. Latkes in addition to...and maybe a little Apricot Kugel too.


You cannot have too many menu items on the big day.

shalomuall 11-26-2013 10:31 PM

Publix had Chanukah stuff. Enjoy learning about our fun holiday. Wish her a Happy Thankskivukkah

SanFranDianne 11-26-2013 10:33 PM

Someone PM'd me to say that Hanukkah is not a time of thanksgiving. Since I am not Jewish, I am not an authority. And so, I offer this quote:

"Saul Rube, Hillel's dean of Judaic studies, said the light-hearted combinations of Thanksgiving and Hanukkah icons underscore a deeper bond: The Talmud, one of Judaism's core texts, describes Hanukkah as a 'holiday of thanksgiving'."
(Source: Thanksgiving-Hanukkah Overlap Spurs Thanks, Angst
FARMINGTON HILLS, Mich. November 25, 2013)

SanFranDianne 11-26-2013 10:39 PM

Thankskivukkah
 
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Originally Posted by shalomuall (Post 787568)
Publix had Chanukah stuff. Enjoy learning about our fun holiday. Wish her a Happy Thankskivukkah

Thank you. That's a lovely phrase. I'll be sure to use it.

SanFranDianne 11-27-2013 04:53 AM

Latkes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jane032657 (Post 787501)
Stein Mart in Ocala had menorahs, laser dreidels and dreidel games last week as well as Chanukah candles. I am sure your DIL would be honored you took her beliefs into consideration and I would suggest you think of making potato latkes instead of mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving...We are celebrating Thanksgivukkah with our daughter.

I found a recipe for latkes. Looks delicious. Thank you for this wonderful suggestion. (P.S. We're having latkes, mashed potatoes, and sweet potato casserole. With 18 people, that should be enough starch.)

Golfingnut 11-27-2013 05:35 AM

Wonderful. We/They is the worst of all sin. I salute your attitude.

senior citizen 11-27-2013 06:02 AM

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SanFranDianne 11-27-2013 06:00 PM

Dreidels for Thanksgiving/Hanukkah
 
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Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 787087)
I think that's a splendid idea. Get some dreidels for the children to play with.

I got dreidels at Target; thanks very much for the suggestion. Tomorrow should be SO much fun combining two holidays and learning about Hanukkah. I hope our daughter-in-law is up for sharing her traditions with 3 little kids and 15 adults.

I bought 3 little gifts to wrap in Hanukkah paper for the 3 little girls to give the daughter-in-law as part of the experience.

sharonga 12-03-2013 09:17 PM

Sounds like a wonderful Thanksgiving/Chanukah. We did the same thing.

nitehawk 12-04-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 787124)
Good for you. Excellent idea. I would like to see the Menorah lighting here too. Anyone know where and when?

are you volunteering to have it at your house ???

graciegirl 12-04-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nitehawk (Post 790601)
are you volunteering to have it at your house ???



It's your turn.

graciegirl 12-04-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SanFranDianne (Post 787976)
I got dreidels at Target; thanks very much for the suggestion. Tomorrow should be SO much fun combining two holidays and learning about Hanukkah. I hope our daughter-in-law is up for sharing her traditions with 3 little kids and 15 adults.

I bought 3 little gifts to wrap in Hanukkah paper for the 3 little girls to give the daughter-in-law as part of the experience.


I so enjoyed the picture you posted on another thread of your grandchildren helping light the Menorah. I know you are a kind and caring mother and grandmother and your family is so blessed with you as their matriarch.


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