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jimmemac 11-28-2013 08:12 AM

Who serves the kool aid?
 
I probably will get in trouble or have people attack me but--I want to know who serves the kool aid that makes people here think that the garbage man is going to pick up on Thanksgiving?? Anyway everybody have a great Thanksgiving!!

graciegirl 11-28-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 788200)
I probably will get in trouble or have people attack me but--I want to know who serves the kool aid that makes people here think that the garbage man is going to pick up on Thanksgiving?? Anyway everybody have a great Thanksgiving!!





I don't know if the trash man cometh today. But I do know this place is SO nice that sometimes dear people have unrealistic expectations.

Cisco Kid 11-28-2013 08:18 AM

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Rango 11-28-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 788201)
I don't know if the trash man cometh today. But I do know this place is SO nice that sometimes dear people have unrealistic expectations.

Well said!

jimmemac 11-28-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 788201)
I don't know if the trash man cometh today. But I do know this place is SO nice that sometimes dear people have unrealistic expectations.

AMEN! agree 110% -sometimes they drive me crazy yet I love them at the same time!

ugotme 11-28-2013 09:54 AM

My trash can wait.

They should be home enjoying the holiday with their families etc.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL!

George Bieniaszek 11-28-2013 10:01 AM

Off the wall comments or expectations is what makes TOTV so entertaining :)

ilovetv 11-28-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 788200)
I probably will get in trouble or have people attack me but--I want to know who serves the kool aid that makes people here think that the garbage man is going to pick up on Thanksgiving?? Anyway everybody have a great Thanksgiving!!

Maybe......the person simply forgot it's a holiday today.

Or maybe they're from another country that doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving today.

I'd say there's "Kool-Ade" that makes people assume notions like some meanies expect "the little guy" to be working on a holiday.

Taltarzac725 11-28-2013 10:15 AM

Unrealistic expectations. Maybe. Maybe not. It is always good to have some hope.

The trash collectors are too busy watching football and eating turkey and ham to do their jobs! :icon_wink:

On a more serious note-- remember that there are friends and family members of the victims of Jim Jones in Jonestown on TOTV. Jonestown Massacre - The Story of the Jonestown Massacre

They still are rather sensitive about threads that use the "kool aid" analogy.

NECHFalcon68 11-28-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 788201)
I don't know if the trash man cometh today. But I do know this place is SO nice that sometimes dear people have unrealistic expectations.

So nice with all the trash bags sitting at the end of the driveways...

Unrealistic? How about plain ole common sense?

For the record, the paper and the district websites said no collection today....

Wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving...from a "young" grouch.:icon_wink:

Indydealmaker 11-28-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by NECHFalcon68 (Post 788275)
So nice with all the trash bags sitting at the end of the driveways...

Unrealistic? How about plain ole common sense?

For the record, the paper and the district websites said no collection today....

Wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving...from a "young" grouch.:icon_wink:

I thought all trash collection here occurred on Tuesdays and Fridays. I would assume that, unless that is wrong, trash sitting out today is due to the residents who left the bubble for the holiday weekend.

rayschic 11-28-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 788289)
I thought all trash collection here occurred on Tuesdays and Fridays. I would assume that, unless that is wrong, trash sitting out today is due to the residents who left the bubble for the holiday weekend.

Different days for different neighborhoods.

http://www.districtgov.org/community...dule-combo.pdf

Indydealmaker 11-28-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rayschic (Post 788294)
different days for different neighborhoods.

http://www.districtgov.org/community...dule-combo.pdf

oops!

JC and John 11-28-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 788289)
I thought all trash collection here occurred on Tuesdays and Fridays. I would assume that, unless that is wrong, trash sitting out today is due to the residents who left the bubble for the holiday weekend.

Trash pick up in my area of Sanibel is Monday and Thursday. So no pick up for us today. It is no biggie for us as we rarely use the Thursday pick up. Happy Thanksgiving!

rayschic 11-28-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 788200)
I probably will get in trouble or have people attack me but--I want to know who serves the kool aid that makes people here think that the garbage man is going to pick up on Thanksgiving?? Anyway everybody have a great Thanksgiving!!

Actually, it's not an unreasonable question at all. Some holidays have regular pickup, some don't. Labor Day...regular pickup. Thanksgiving...no pickup. See link.

http://www.districtgov.org/community...edule-2013.pdf

donb9006 11-28-2013 11:40 AM

In Lake, we get robbed...we miss a lot of pickups due to holidays being celebrated on Mondays. I'd say we lose close to a month worth of pickups. It gets old having to hold onto your garbage for a week...especially in summer.

rayschic 11-28-2013 11:47 AM

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bimmertl 11-29-2013 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NECHFalcon68 (Post 788275)
So nice with all the trash bags sitting at the end of the driveways...

Unrealistic? How about plain ole common sense?

For the record, the paper and the district websites said no collection today....

Wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving...from a "young" grouch.:icon_wink:

No doubt the same crowd who get in the "10 items or less" line with a cart full of items. Either can't read, can't count or really don't care.

nitehawk 11-29-2013 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 788201)
I don't know if the trash man cometh today. But I do know this place is SO nice that sometimes dear people have unrealistic expectations.

Oh gracie you have such a way with words

Villageshooter 11-29-2013 08:56 AM

if ur day falls on a holiday u dont lose the day,, they just pick up the next day,,, 2 times a week is almost overkill anyway,, back up north we only had once a week, missing my trash pickup day ,, long ago left my worry chart! once again we have much to be thankful for if this is worry in our life! happy happy happy thanksgiving!

MikeV 11-29-2013 10:09 AM

Kool Aid? There's Kool Aid? Where's the Kool Aid? I want Kool Aid.

2BNTV 11-29-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 788201)
I don't know if the trash man cometh today. But I do know this place is SO nice that sometimes dear people have unrealistic expectations.

:agree: Let us forgive those, who wanted a day off. It's the right thing to do.

I want to comment on the people who manned the retail stores on Thanksgiving holiday shopping as I could tell, some were not happy campers but put on the brave smile. After all, everyone would have rather been home stuffing their face, and being with family and friends.

Off to do more shopping today, and avoid the mad Black Friday Day rush. :smiley:

Xavier 11-29-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 788575)
:agree: Let us forgive those, who wanted a day off. It's the right thing to do.

I want to comment on the people who manned the retail stores on Thanksgiving holiday shopping as I could tell, some were not happy campers but put on the brave smile. After all, everyone would have rather been home stuffing their face, and being with family and friends.

Off to do more shopping today, and avoid the mad Black Friday Day rush. :smiley:

I'm confused. If today isn't Black Friday, what day is it?

Xavier

rubicon 11-29-2013 01:20 PM

Isn't it nice that all we have to caterwaul about is whether the trash guy should show up on a Holiday when in so many places they don't even have trash.

Shame on us all

redwitch 11-29-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Villageshooter (Post 788521)
if ur day falls on a holiday u dont lose the day,, they just pick up the next day,,, 2 times a week is almost overkill anyway,, back up north we only had once a week, missing my trash pickup day ,, long ago left my worry chart! once again we have much to be thankful for if this is worry in our life! happy happy happy thanksgiving!

Um, no, they don't pick up the next day -- they pick up your regular trash day.

And I can understand the confusion -- have never heard of a place that has three pick up days a week (don't forget Wednesday's leaf pickup, unless you live in Lake County and then that's your recycle day). So, it really isn't unreasonable to think there might be a pick up on a major holiday.

And, Tal, thank you for the gentle reminder about Jonestown. I sincerely appreciate it. (I've given up saying anything since I got so blasted for asking the phrase not be used. Oh, well.)

Indydealmaker 11-29-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 788629)
Um, no, they don't pick up the next day -- they pick up your regular trash day.

And I can understand the confusion -- have never heard of a place that has three pick up days a week (don't forget Wednesday's leaf pickup, unless you live in Lake County and then that's your recycle day). So, it really isn't unreasonable to think there might be a pick up on a major holiday.

And, Tal, thank you for the gentle reminder about Jonestown. I sincerely appreciate it. (I've given up saying anything since I got so blasted for asking the phrase not be used. Oh, well.)

I don't think it's possible to have a sense of tragedy without having a sense of humor.

Christopher Hitchens

kittygilchrist 11-29-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 788633)
I don't think it's possible to have a sense of tragedy without having a sense of humor.

Christopher Hitchens

I don't get this quote. help me out.
sincerely,
Grasshopper

NECHFalcon68 11-29-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 788622)
Isn't it nice that all we have to caterwaul about is whether the trash guy should show up on a Holiday when in so many places they don't even have trash.

Shame on us all

I think the OP, and the intent of the thread, was referring to folks who don't know the schedule. I don't think there was an attempt to slam the "trash guy" for taking a day off.

Indydealmaker 11-29-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 788657)
I don't get this quote. help me out.
sincerely,
Grasshopper

I interpreted this as meaning that without a sense of humor, your sense of tragedy would always be out of proportion to the situation. My interpretation might also be influenced by the fact that I went searching for a quote with that intended meaning.

You might have noticed that some TOTV posters take every thing to heart. A healthy sense of humor can act as a healing salve.

Villages PL 11-29-2013 05:27 PM

I think we've had our fill of "trash-talk" by now; let's clean it up and move on.

donb9006 11-29-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Villageshooter (Post 788521)
if ur day falls on a holiday u dont lose the day,, they just pick up the next day,,, 2 times a week is almost overkill anyway,, back up north we only had once a week, missing my trash pickup day ,, long ago left my worry chart! once again we have much to be thankful for if this is worry in our life! happy happy happy thanksgiving!

No, they don't...for me anyway...I'm out of luck until the next scheduled pickup.

Jhooman 11-30-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 788557)
Kool Aid? There's Kool Aid? Where's the Kool Aid? I want Kool Aid.

I was going to let this slide, but I can't.

So you want Kool Aid?

35 years ago in Jonestown Guyana, over 900 people died drinking the Kool Aid. The real truth, many people were injected, shot and forced to drink the Kool Aid. 300 of the people who perished were children, they are buried in a mass grave in Oakland, California.

My Mother and Sister were two of the victims.

I personally don't find the humor in the Kool Aid analogy.

Do you make jokes about the Holocaust?

Do you make light of the Jonestown event because the majority of the people were of color?

Bottom line, I'm offended by your humor.

2BNTV 11-30-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jhooman (Post 788890)
I was going to let this slide, but I can't.

So you want Kool Aid?

35 years ago in Jonestown Guyana, over 900 people died drinking the Kool Aid. The real truth, many people were injected, shot and forced to drink the Kool Aid. 300 of the people who perished were children, they are buried in a mass grave in Oakland, California.

My Mother and Sister were two of the victims.

I personally don't find the humor in the Kool Aid analogy.

Do you make jokes about the Holocaust?

Do you make light of the Jonestown event because the majority of the people were of color?

Bottom line, I'm offended by your humor.

I'm sorry this happened to your family. I know that Redwitch was affected by this tradgedy.

I try not to reference TV with this remark, as it offends some people. We need to be sensitive about this tradgedy as it affected soooooooo many people.

Jhooman 11-30-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 788916)
I'm sorry this happened to your family. I know that Redwitch was affected by this tradgedy.

I try not to reference TV with this remark, as it offends some people. We need to be sensitive about this tradgedy as it affected soooooooo many people.

Thank you for your kindness and courage in this matter.

graciegirl 11-30-2013 10:22 AM

JHooman, great golfer and amazing person....
 
I had heard this from JHooman before and she is a real person with real feelings. A wonderfully real person, a brave and funny one who is married to another wonderful soul.


I do feel with great respect to her a lot of people have stopped using that term on this forum but I don't think many really relate it to that awful event anymore.


I hope someday we can find a flip, crazy term that means that we have become intoxicated and swayed into a life changing event.


One that doesn't hurt anyone, but that in itself is very hard with so many, many, many years of life with so many, many circumstances represented by the readers of this forum..


I think we should all try to not take offense if the intent was not ill intended. AND to not GIVE offense if we know that someone would be hurt.


And I know a family that has a good reason to be offended when people casually use the word "retarded" but they also know that most people do NOT intend to hurt. Anyone.

redwitch 11-30-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 788941)
I had heard this from JHooman before and she is a real person with real feelings. A wonderfully real person, a brave and funny one who is married to another wonderful soul.


I do feel with great respect to her a lot of people have stopped using that term on this forum but I don't think many really relate it to that awful event anymore.


I hope someday we can find a flip, crazy term that means that we have become intoxicated and swayed into a life changing event.


One that doesn't hurt anyone, but that in itself is very hard with so many, many, many years of life with so many, many circumstances represented by the readers of this forum..


I think we should all try to not take offense if the intent was not ill intended. AND to not GIVE offense if we know that someone would be hurt.


And I know a family that has a good reason to be offended when people casually use the word "retarded" but they also know that most people do NOT intend to hurt. Anyone.

Gracie, I think the word retarded is extremely offensive and is to most people today. It wasn't for a long, long time and was completely acceptable in social situations. Fortunately, it no longer is even though it is used in legal and psychiatric circles because it has a very specific meaning.

I don't think jhooman nor I take offense when people speak of drinking the Kool Aid, we just feel like we've been punched in the gut. You're right, to most it is an innocent phrase and means nothing. To most from the Bay Area, it is a painful reminder of an obscene event. How it somehow became an acceptable term is beyond me. How any term that relates directly back to a tragedy can become part of common vernacular is well beyond my understanding and, quite honestly, not something I even want to understand.

So, I'm sorry for stepping on someone's fun and not finding any humor in hearing the phrase, but it is what it is to me and to many others. To be told we should grin and bear with it and just accept it is not something I understand. I can't imagine anyone would think it would be acceptable to use a phrase specific to the Holocaust or Lockerbie or 9-11 as a form of humor, yet, drinking the Kool Aid relates to a very specific, tragic event and has become a way to joke about one blindly following and acting without thinking. Maybe we should start speaking of surviving something trivial as hanging in a tree, as several did during the tsunami?

Jhooman 11-30-2013 10:57 AM

Thank you Gracie for your kind words.

However, that awful event must be remembered, so hopefully it will not occur again.

People want to forget the Holocaust, it happened, we must never forget or make light of the tragedy, the human life lost, the souls that perished.

Our society wants to sugar coat life and yes, I believe that folks don't intend to be harmful, but where does self responsibility occur. Ignorance of the law does not mean you are not responsible.

Jhooman 11-30-2013 11:01 AM

Redwitch you are my Hero.

nitehawk 12-03-2013 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jhooman (Post 788957)
Thank you Gracie for your kind words.

However, that awful event must be remembered, so hopefully it will not occur again.

People want to forget the Holocaust, it happened, we must never forget or make light of the tragedy, the human life lost, the souls that perished.

Our society wants to sugar coat life and yes, I believe that folks don't intend to be harmful, but where does self responsibility occur. Ignorance of the law does not mean you are not responsible.

I hope not !!!! I also think that drinking the KOOL AID is a perfect way of referring to people who have blinders on and only want to see things their way

rubicon 12-03-2013 09:12 AM

I believe that a lot of time and resources could have been saved if we all looked back on our working days and recognized that whether it was a Holiday, vacation a sick day most of what we left was still there when we got back only now it would have a later date stamp.

So too with our those folks who arrive early so that those little green plastic bags disappear. It is also still waiting for them


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