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neilbcox 12-17-2013 06:34 PM

New shopping center Powell Rd next to Brownwood Towne Ct
 
There is a huge area being cleared on Powell Road across the street to Brownwood Towne Village. I believe that it is a large shopping center. Does anyone know what is going into this center...Maybe we will get a nice center close by instead of having to drive to Hwy 441!

SALYBOW 12-17-2013 07:17 PM

Amen to that. It is a long drive to 441 for a packages of nails.

Indydealmaker 12-17-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SALYBOW (Post 797267)
Amen to that. It is a long drive to 441 for a packages of nails.

Have you ever been to Sparr Building & Farm Supply just southwest of Brownwood? They have a bit of everything and they seem to be good people.

Peachie 12-17-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 797275)
Have you ever been to Sparr Building & Farm Supply just southwest of Brownwood? They have a bit of everything and they seem to be good people.

And there is a nice Ace Hardware in Wildwood and Ace Hardware off of 466 in Southern Trace...

e-flyer 12-17-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by neilbcox (Post 797244)
There is a huge area being cleared on Powell Road across the street to Brownwood Towne Village. I believe that it is a large shopping center. Does anyone know what is going into this center...Maybe we will get a nice center close by instead of having to drive to Hwy 441!

We can only hope! See link below for another thread on the same topic.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ownwood-98350/

mulligan 12-18-2013 07:04 AM

Once again, for the folks in the back row, there is a new villa neighborhood going in on the northern portion of that property. As of this date, there are NO plans/permits for commercial property.

graciegirl 12-18-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 797422)
once again, for the folks in the back row, there is a new villa neighborhood going in on the northern portion of that property. As of this date, there are no plans/permits for commercial property.




THANK YOU
mulligan.

mulligan 12-18-2013 07:23 AM

Merry Christmas, Gracie.

skip0358 12-18-2013 07:30 AM

If you read the Daily Sun there is a legal section where The Villages posts ALL these legal adds. If there's a change to the current plans that requires a County Meeting they are posted by law. The Villages news also does an online posting. If there is a shopping area on the Villages Property I would guess it will be like the one that was just added by the new Sweet Bay. Now further West on Rt.44 between the Brownwood Property and the Trailer Park including part of the Trailer Park there are for sale signs up. Also between 301 and 75 on the N/S of 44 there is a sign and land clearing for a Flea Market coming.

Indydealmaker 12-18-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Peachie (Post 797283)
And there is a nice Ace Hardware in Wildwood or Ace Hardware off of 466 in Southern Trace...

The Wildwood Ace Hardware has a guy named "Joe" who is a Master Gardener". He is very knowledgeable.

campy 02-08-2014 04:36 PM

It is called Grand Traverse Plaza. It will consist of retail space with Publix being the anchor store.

Warren Kiefer 02-08-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by neilbcox (Post 797244)
There is a huge area being cleared on Powell Road across the street to Brownwood Towne Village. I believe that it is a large shopping center. Does anyone know what is going into this center...Maybe we will get a nice center close by instead of having to drive to Hwy 441!

why do you say believe ??? I am hoping you meant a mall type shopping.

John_W 02-08-2014 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by campy (Post 826294)
It is called Grand Traverse Plaza. It will consist of retail space with Publix being the anchor store.

I did a google search for "Grand Traverse Plaza", highway 44 wildwood, fl and found one link, however I can't open it since I don't have 'Word' and the document is posted in Word. This is the google highlight

Emmett Sapp Builders Inc 4430 NE 83 Rd Wildwood FL 34785 (352) 748-1949 FAX .... *Shine & Company Inc 25613 W US HWY 27 High Springs FL 32643 (386) ...... PUBLIX # 1487 AT GRAND TRAVERSE PLAZA – POWELL RD & SR 44.

Maybe someone who has Word can do a search using "Grand Traverse Plaza", highway 44 wildwood, fl

Flyinglady 02-08-2014 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 797429)
THANK YOU
mulligan.

So good to see you back on totv - sorry to highjack this thread

Papa 02-08-2014 07:02 PM

Here is a full set of drawings...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by campy (Post 826294)
It is called Grand Traverse Plaza. It will consist of retail space with Publix being the anchor store.

Here is the link to the full set of plans...

http://www.scherercfl.com/bids/data/...et%20Plans.pdf

Enjoy

zonerboy 02-08-2014 07:19 PM

Very interesting.
I wonder if there will be golf cart access to that side of Powell Road.

By the way, sorry to dash the hopes of some, but I think the days of the big multipurpose shopping malls (like Millennium Mall, etc.) are long gone Too much internet shopping going on.
just my opinion.

gomoho 02-08-2014 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa (Post 826381)
Here is the link to the full set of plans...

http://www.scherercfl.com/bids/data/...et%20Plans.pdf

Enjoy

Praise the Lord and pass the hat!!! Can anyone read these plans to determine if any other stores have committed.

Chopper 02-08-2014 07:36 PM

Tunnels already exist under Powell Road. Access to Grand Traverse Plaza will not be a problem. The homes that will be built just south of 44A are called Village of Collier at Alden Bungalows.

skip0358 02-08-2014 08:04 PM

Read the plans Publix in the middle. A restaurant is marked on one end ( no name ) the rest of the stores are marked tenant. Looks similar to Colony.

Villager Dude 02-08-2014 08:55 PM

Stores
 
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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 826389)
Praise the Lord and pass the hat!!! Can anyone read these plans to determine if any other stores have committed.

Other than Publix I see noting else other than some space set aside for a restaurant . I am sure there will be many food establishments in that center.

Don't think you will see a Costco or anything big like that.

bxmt54 02-08-2014 09:10 PM

One can probably assume one of the restaurants will be Beef O'Brady's, wouldn't you think?

LndLocked 02-08-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bxmt54 (Post 826436)
One can probably assume one of the restaurants will be Beef O'Brady's, wouldn't you think?

and a Subway

missypie 02-08-2014 09:20 PM

Beef o Brady and subway...how new and exciting

shcisamax 02-08-2014 09:41 PM

I guess it will be one big deja vu.

Indydealmaker 02-08-2014 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 826339)
I did a google search for "Grand Traverse Plaza", highway 44 wildwood, fl and found one link, however I can't open it since I don't have 'Word' and the document is posted in Word. This is the google highlight

Emmett Sapp Builders Inc 4430 NE 83 Rd Wildwood FL 34785 (352) 748-1949 FAX .... *Shine & Company Inc 25613 W US HWY 27 High Springs FL 32643 (386) ...... PUBLIX # 1487 AT GRAND TRAVERSE PLAZA – POWELL RD & SR 44.

Maybe someone who has Word can do a search using "Grand Traverse Plaza", highway 44 wildwood, fl

John, You can download a free Word "Viewer".
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...ails.aspx?id=4

KathieI 02-09-2014 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa (Post 826381)
Here is the link to the full set of plans...

http://www.scherercfl.com/bids/data/...et%20Plans.pdf

Enjoy

Hey, you guys are so fantastic... How the heck do you find these things... I'm so glad that I have you all here to share this info with me. I'd be like a babe in the woods , lol , I loved this blueprint, had no clue what I was looking at, but it was fantastic. Thank you so much to all you guys that are so computer literate - I thank you lots. Just had to complement all of you.

NJblue 02-09-2014 01:46 AM

The curious thing is that the plans appear to be for a much smaller commercial presence than what the amount of land there would otherwise allow. I know there are some villas being built in the same general area, but it would seem as though there is still a lot of land to be developed.

asianthree 02-09-2014 04:07 AM

I just like to wait and see..that way I am never disappointed

skip0358 02-09-2014 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 826499)
The curious thing is that the plans appear to be for a much smaller commercial presence than what the amount of land there would otherwise allow. I know there are some villas being built in the same general area, but it would seem as though there is still a lot of land to be developed.

There a quite a few Villas going into that section. I believe the Villa section goes down to the 2nd traffic circle s/o 44A. then the rest would be the shopping center. If you look at the Pinellas Plaza and The Colony Plaza they're on a good size piece of property.

TNLAKEPANDA 02-09-2014 08:01 AM

Our realtor told us that a Mall with several large anchor stores will be going in near Brownwood out on Hwy 44. He did not have a date or more details. I am sure that 44 will get built up just like 27/441 is now.

Bogie Shooter 02-09-2014 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 826543)
Our realtor told us that a Mall with several large anchor stores will be going in near Brownwood out on Hwy 44. He did not have a date or more details. I am sure that 44 will get built up just like 27/441 is now.

This is a very old rumor.

Lovey2 02-09-2014 08:14 AM

[QUOTE=mulligan;797422]Once again, for the folks in the back row, there is a new villa neighborhood going in on the northern portion of that property. As of this date, there are NO plans/permits for commercial property.[/QU

tucson 02-09-2014 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 826550)
This is a very old rumor.

Well if this is a rumor, than the business owner (that told me that there's a huge mall/shpg ctr. going in across the street from there was spreading a false rumor 5yrs ago.

Bogie Shooter 02-09-2014 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tucson (Post 826558)
Well if this is a rumor, than the business owner (that told me that there's a huge mall/shpg ctr. going in across the street from there was spreading a false rumor 5yrs ago.

Guess some peopl's definition of huge can vary.

pbeinetti 02-09-2014 09:47 AM

Seems like overload on the Western side of The Villages -- Pinellas and Grand Traverse. If Grand Traverse had Home Depot, etc. that would make sense, another grocery does not IMO. Eastern side of TV is desperate for another grocery. Colony is a zoo now, and will be made much worse with Fruitland Park Villages. Anyone hear anything about building a grocery on the Eastern side?

e-flyer 02-09-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pbeinetti (Post 826608)
. Anyone hear anything about building a grocery on the Eastern side?

Nope

e-flyer 02-09-2014 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucson (Post 826558)
Well if this is a rumor, than the business owner (that told me that there's a huge mall/shpg ctr. going in across the street from there was spreading a false rumor 5yrs ago.

Lots of plans change in 5 yrs. Until it happens, it's just a rumor.

NJblue 02-09-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tucson (Post 826558)
Well if this is a rumor, than the business owner (that told me that there's a huge mall/shpg ctr. going in across the street from there was spreading a false rumor 5yrs ago.

I believe that was the plan/concept 5 years ago. If you went to the developer's commercial web site there was a proposed Anterim Dells mall slotted for that space. If you go to that web site now, all references to Anterim Dells are gone.

Plans do change over time. I think that one thing the developer is learning as time goes on is that there is much less demand for commercial space than what he had originally hoped. The Buffalo Ridge commercial area is huge but has not seen any new development there in years. The Mission Hills area was originally supposed to be commercial space and it appears that demand never materialized and instead it was rezoned residential. I think people holding out hope for a Macy/Dillards type mall will be disappointed.

Bogie Shooter 02-09-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 826653)
I believe that was the plan/concept 5 years ago. If you went to the developer's commercial web site there was a proposed Anterim Dells mall slotted for that space. If you go to that web site now, all references to Anterim Dells are gone.

Plans do change over time. I think that one thing the developer is learning as time goes on is that there is much less demand for commercial space than what he had originally hoped. The Buffalo Ridge commercial area is huge but has not seen any new development there in years. The Mission Hills area was originally supposed to be commercial space and it appears that demand never materialized and instead it was rezoned residential. I think people holding out hope for a Macy/Dillards type mall will be disappointed.

Your are so right. Are those big stores opening any stores anywhere?

renielarson 02-09-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 826653)
I believe that was the plan/concept 5 years ago. If you went to the developer's commercial web site there was a proposed Anterim Dells mall slotted for that space. If you go to that web site now, all references to Anterim Dells are gone.

Plans do change over time. I think that one thing the developer is learning as time goes on is that there is much less demand for commercial space than what he had originally hoped. The Buffalo Ridge commercial area is huge but has not seen any new development there in years. The Mission Hills area was originally supposed to be commercial space and it appears that demand never materialized and instead it was rezoned residential. I think people holding out hope for a Macy/Dillards type mall will be disappointed.

But all references to Antrim Dells are not all gone. Case in point is The Villages Commercial Property site with a 2014 copyright. The site says Antrim Dells is a 500,000 sq. ft. power center. A power center is defined by Wikipedia as "...an unenclosed shopping center with 250,000 square feet (23,000 m2) to 750,000 square feet (70,000 m2) of gross leasable area[1] that usually contains three or more big box retailers and various smaller retailers (usually located in strip plazas) with a common parking area shared among the retailers. It is likely to have more money spent on features and architecture than a traditional big box shopping center."

I tried to post the url to The Villages Commercial Property site but it wouldn't take, sorry.

Now that I've seen the plans for Grand Traverse Plaza I'm really confused because I don't see enough room for 3 or more big box retailers in the plans.


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