Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 802584)

People really need to lighten up on this forum. It is so completely out of hand. People make a comment and they are blasted as possibly being untruthful. People make a comment and they are taken to the mat for their opinion. People make a comment and they are suddenly being beaten up on because they are not knowledgeable. You can't even make a joke here anymore without someone taking offense and getting puffed up. What happened to this great site for information and for joy? I have been on here for less than two years and, quite honestly, it was absolutely a gas when I first came on. Now, I just wait for who is going to jump on whom. I just don't know when it became what it is or why.

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 802591)

I think part of the problem right now is no political forum -- a lot of the stuff that used to go there is now here and, with it, comes the attitudes, the fights. Some things have always been around -- the gut reaction by some to take offense when a newbie posts something negative (always thought to be a troll, rarely taken as saying something true -- wrong attitude IMO but it is what it is).

The best way to take this forum (or any other, for that matter) is read what you want, respond to what you want and ignore that which is of no interest to you. I won't ever put another individual on ignore unless they become personally insulting because sometimes they have something to say that might interest me. I rarely open threads that I feel will be religious or political in nature (sometimes my curiosity gets the better of me).

The other thing you can do is try to gently remind people (either via PM or politely and, if possible, with grace and humor) that their behavior is crossing a line. Sometimes that even works.

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 802591)

I think part of the problem right now is no political forum -- a lot of the stuff that used to go there is now here and, with it, comes the attitudes, the fights. Some things have always been around -- the gut reaction by some to take offense when a newbie posts something negative (always thought to be a troll, rarely taken as saying something true -- wrong attitude IMO but it is what it is).

The best way to take this forum (or any other, for that matter) is read what you want, respond to what you want and ignore that which is of no interest to you. I won't ever put another individual on ignore unless they become personally insulting because sometimes they have something to say that might interest me. I rarely open threads that I feel will be religious or political in nature (sometimes my curiosity gets the better of me).

The other thing you can do is try to gently remind people (either via PM or politely and, if possible, with grace and humor) that their behavior is crossing a line. Sometimes that even works.

Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 802584)

People really need to lighten up on this forum. It is so completely out of hand. People make a comment and they are blasted as possibly being untruthful. People make a comment and they are taken to the mat for their opinion. People make a comment and they are suddenly being beaten up on because they are not knowledgeable. You can't even make a joke here anymore without someone taking offense and getting puffed up. What happened to this great site for information and for joy? I have been on here for less than two years and, quite honestly, it was absolutely a gas when I first came on. Now, I just wait for who is going to jump on whom. I just don't know when it became what it is or why.

Originally Posted by BettyCrocked (Post 802606)

I don't think it has anything to do with politics unless there is some secret society here that gangs up on people from a certain political persuasion.
I wasn't here two years ago for the "friendly times", but what I've seen since february are a certain group of posters who seem to resent, then attack anyone who has ever disagreed with them. Basically if you have a low post count, you can forget starting a thread and not being accused of lying, starting rumors...
It's sad, really. I find myself being on the defensive as soon as I read a post and consider replying. I reply to things I don't even care about because I've always been one to pull for the underdog and I don't like seeing people ganged up on or bullied. I will admit that I get great entertainment from the variety of scenarios presented here when people want to discount a simple statement of fact.
If you find yourself searching a poster's previous posts and digging back trying to discredit them, you may have some issues. Try getting away from the computer and getting out more.

Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 802676)

Take note of those login ID and either go into USERCP and put them on your blocked list or simply ignor them.

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 802679)

One would do well, to think about what they are saying,and how will they feel after saying it, when responding to another's post. I don't take it personally, as "I don't let people rent space in my head.

One can choose to respond in such a way, as to disagree with the OP, without attacking their point of view. Attacking a person directly, is something that is frowned upon by the admin, and will close the thread.

I can remember only one or two times that someone got under my skin, that I responded, referring directly to their point of view. It's just better for myself to just walk away, and take deep breaths.

"Agree to disagree respectfully", is my motto.

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 802591)

I think part of the problem right now is no political forum -- a lot of the stuff that used to go there is now here and, with it, comes the attitudes, the fights. Some things have always been around -- the gut reaction by some to take offense when a newbie posts something negative (always thought to be a troll, rarely taken as saying something true -- wrong attitude IMO but it is what it is).

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 802719)

It was soooo much fun. The fun people from that time are gone. They rarely come on any more. I don't think it has anything to do with the political forum being removed.

I see members. who every time they post, a poster will come on and challenge. After awhile they are gone. *sigh* Some posters come on ONLY to challenge other posters. No one enjoys that.

We have this wonderful vehicle, TOTV, to get the word out to the community when something is going on that people need to know. But we have people on TOTV who don't want anyone to know that something bad could happen here.

Add to that, threads being closed for what appears to be no reason, and posts being removed (no I don't mean mine.... I know why it was removed) for reasons that aren't clear. I'm pretty sure this one will be next.

I will be off again, unless there is something I think people need to know. I want to have fun and this just isn't fun.

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 802591)

I think part of the problem right now is no political forum -- a lot of the stuff that used to go there is now here and, with it, comes the attitudes, the fights. Some things have always been around -- the gut reaction by some to take offense when a newbie posts something negative (always thought to be a troll, rarely taken as saying something true -- wrong attitude IMO but it is what it is).

The best way to take this forum (or any other, for that matter) is read what you want, respond to what you want and ignore that which is of no interest to you. I won't ever put another individual on ignore unless they become personally insulting because sometimes they have something to say that might interest me. I rarely open threads that I feel will be religious or political in nature (sometimes my curiosity gets the better of me).

The other thing you can do is try to gently remind people (either via PM or politely and, if possible, with grace and humor) that their behavior is crossing a line. Sometimes that even works.

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 802591)

I think part of the problem right now is no political forum -- a lot of the stuff that used to go there is now here and, with it, comes the attitudes, the fights. Some things have always been around -- the gut reaction by some to take offense when a newbie posts something negative (always thought to be a troll, rarely taken as saying something true -- wrong attitude IMO but it is what it is).

The best way to take this forum (or any other, for that matter) is read what you want, respond to what you want and ignore that which is of no interest to you. I won't ever put another individual on ignore unless they become personally insulting because sometimes they have something to say that might interest me. I rarely open threads that I feel will be religious or political in nature (sometimes my curiosity gets the better of me).

The other thing you can do is try to gently remind people (either via PM or politely and, if possible, with grace and humor) that their behavior is crossing a line. Sometimes that even works.