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Rainger99 09-23-2022 09:18 AM

Question for Catholics and Lutherans
 
I moved here in summer of 2021. When I first arrived, there was a sign on Meggison just north of Warm Springs that says the spot is the future location of Hope Lutheran Church. There has been no activity in the last 15 months. Does anyone have any idea when they might actually start building the church?

Also, last summer there was a rumor that there was going to be a new Catholic church in the south section. I have not heard anything since the original rumor. Is that still in the works? Or has it been abandoned?

The population in the south is continuing to grow. Since that time, they have built Cason Hammock, St. Johns, Richmond, and Deluna, and they are starting to build Newell and are working on Middleton and Eastport.

Davonu 09-23-2022 11:28 AM

The “south campus” of Hope Lutheran Church is definitely in the works. I’m sure a call or visit to the 466 Hope office would give you details.

Taltarzac725 09-23-2022 11:45 AM

AMAZING GRACE LUTHERAN CHURCH — Amazing Grace Early Center

My parents went here for a while and then received visits from Pastor Rocky at home when needed.

They used to go to Trinity Lutheran which is connected to Amazing Grace. Home - Trinity Lutheran Church

Kenswing 09-23-2022 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 2139261)
The “south campus” of Hope Lutheran Church is definitely in the works. I’m sure a call or visit to the 466 Hope office would give you details.

Stop! We're not allowed to suggest that thread starters actually do some independent research and think for themselves. Someone will be along shortly to chastise you.

dewilson58 09-23-2022 02:02 PM

Interesting

Catholics don't look for Lutheran churches.

Lutheran don't look for Catholic churches.

Martin Luther's 95 Theses............Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Aces4 09-23-2022 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2139303)
Interesting

Catholics don't look for Lutheran churches.

Lutheran don't look for Catholic churches.

Martin Luther's 95 Theses............Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


This isn’t the 1960’s anymore. There are two faith families out there and the world isn’t any worse off because of that fact.😉

dewilson58 09-23-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2139305)
This isn’t the 1960’s anymore. There are two faith families out there and the world isn’t any worse off because of that fact.😉

Not the 60's......................it happened 500 years ago.

There are many faith families out there.....................just a matter if they follow the Bible and God's word or if they make crap up.

:ho:

Aces4 09-23-2022 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2139307)
Not the 60's......................it happened 500 years ago.

There are many faith families out there.....................just a matter if they follow the Bible and God's word or if they make crap up.

:ho:

The point is that after the sixties, the line between those two faiths softened and realization of one God reigned. If you attend Mass or services these days, you’ll find mostly gray-haired parishioners there.

dewilson58 09-23-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2139317)
The point is that after the sixties, the line between those two faiths softened and realization of one God reigned. If you attend Mass or services these days, you’ll find mostly gray-haired parishioners there.

Softened is jus "less severe"...........significant differences exist.

Doctrinal Authority: Lutherans believe that only the Holy Scriptures hold authority in determining doctrine; Roman Catholics give doctrinal authority to the Pope, traditions of the church, and the Scriptures.

Justification: Lutherans maintain that salvation comes to humans by grace through faith in Jesus Christ alone; Roman Catholics believe that faith must be accompanied by good works for salvation to be achieved.

Head of the Chuch: Lutherans affirm that Christ is the head of the church and that the Pope should not have divine authority over believers; Roman Catholics believe Christ granted supreme authority to the Pope.

Sacraments: Lutherans practice only two sacraments and believe that they are valid only as aids to faith; Roman Catholics claim seven sacraments. Lutherans also reject many elements of Catholic sacraments such as the doctrine of transubstantiation.

Luther was a Bible scholar and believed strongly that all doctrine must be solidly based on Scripture. He rejected the idea that the teaching of the Pope carried the same weight as the Bible. Initially, Luther sought only to reform in the Roman Catholic Church, but Rome held that the office of Pope had been established by Jesus Christ and that the Pope served as Christ's vicar, or representative, on earth. Therefore, the Catholic church rejected any attempts to limit the role of the Pope or cardinals.

There are more, but some things have not "softened".

:beer3:

Papa_lecki 09-23-2022 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2139324)
Softened is jus "less severe"...........significant differences exist.

Doctrinal Authority: Lutherans believe that only the Holy Scriptures hold authority in determining doctrine; Roman Catholics give doctrinal authority to the Pope, traditions of the church, and the Scriptures.

Justification: Lutherans maintain that salvation comes to humans by grace through faith in Jesus Christ alone; Roman Catholics believe that faith must be accompanied by good works for salvation to be achieved.

Head of the Chuch: Lutherans affirm that Christ is the head of the church and that the Pope should not have divine authority over believers; Roman Catholics believe Christ granted supreme authority to the Pope.

Sacraments: Lutherans practice only two sacraments and believe that they are valid only as aids to faith; Roman Catholics claim seven sacraments. Lutherans also reject many elements of Catholic sacraments such as the doctrine of transubstantiation.

Luther was a Bible scholar and believed strongly that all doctrine must be solidly based on Scripture. He rejected the idea that the teaching of the Pope carried the same weight as the Bible. Initially, Luther sought only to reform in the Roman Catholic Church, but Rome held that the office of Pope had been established by Jesus Christ and that the Pope served as Christ's vicar, or representative, on earth. Therefore, the Catholic church rejected any attempts to limit the role of the Pope or cardinals.

There are more, but some things have not "softened".

:beer3:

We officially hit the end of the internet…..we are debating Martin Luther and the pope.
Bring back the dog poop and reverse mortgage threads

Aces4 09-23-2022 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2139324)
Softened is jus "less severe"...........significant differences exist.

Doctrinal Authority: Lutherans believe that only the Holy Scriptures hold authority in determining doctrine; Roman Catholics give doctrinal authority to the Pope, traditions of the church, and the Scriptures.

Justification: Lutherans maintain that salvation comes to humans by grace through faith in Jesus Christ alone; Roman Catholics believe that faith must be accompanied by good works for salvation to be achieved.

Head of the Chuch: Lutherans affirm that Christ is the head of the church and that the Pope should not have divine authority over believers; Roman Catholics believe Christ granted supreme authority to the Pope.

Sacraments: Lutherans practice only two sacraments and believe that they are valid only as aids to faith; Roman Catholics claim seven sacraments. Lutherans also reject many elements of Catholic sacraments such as the doctrine of transubstantiation.

Luther was a Bible scholar and believed strongly that all doctrine must be solidly based on Scripture. He rejected the idea that the teaching of the Pope carried the same weight as the Bible. Initially, Luther sought only to reform in the Roman Catholic Church, but Rome held that the office of Pope had been established by Jesus Christ and that the Pope served as Christ's vicar, or representative, on earth. Therefore, the Catholic church rejected any attempts to limit the role of the Pope or cardinals.

There are more, but some things have not "softened".

:beer3:

Thank you for sharing but you realize that’s not news, lol. I was talking about interfaith marriages, which back in the day, informed children that their non-Catholic parent was going to hell. Thankfully, we are past that admonition and mindset.

dewilson58 09-23-2022 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2139337)
We officially hit the end of the internet…..we are debating Martin Luther and the pope.
Bring back the dog poop and reverse mortgage threads

Maybe we can squeeze out some catholic dog poop.

:1rotfl:

Dotneko 09-23-2022 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2139343)
Maybe we can squeeze out some catholic dog poop.

:1rotfl:

Leave it to the likely suspects on totv. Someone asks an innocent question and the pontificators come out like mushrooms after a rain. If you dont have the answer, here's a thought, fingers off the keyboard. No one cares about your sidetracks.
OP - I know there are likely Christians who can answer your question. Sadly, I do not know the timeline.

Rainger99 09-23-2022 05:40 PM

The topic has taken a significant detour from the original question.

I was just trying to find out when new churches were going to be built in the southern area.

I did not want to argue the merits of the Reformation.

dewilson58 09-23-2022 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2139352)

I was just trying to find out when new churches were going to be built in the southern area.
.

Than you have to be smart enough to call Archdiocese and H L C for facts.

They will have the answers for you.


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