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retiredguy123 03-14-2024 02:54 PM

The Players Championship in 4K
 
The tournament is being shown in 4K, Channel 1353 on Xfinity. Personally, I cannot see much picture improvement. Can you? I have a 75 inch Sony 4K TV and a 4K cable box.

villagetinker 03-14-2024 03:38 PM

You might be able to check your television settings to see if it actually displaying a 4K picture, I have seen a noticeable difference on some shows on our 4K TV, Hisense brand.

retiredguy123 03-15-2024 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2311079)
You might be able to check your television settings to see if it actually displaying a 4K picture, I have seen a noticeable difference on some shows on our 4K TV, Hisense brand.

Thanks, but I am certain that my TV and cable box are both set on 4K. I also understand that there are two ways that a 4K signal is produced. A native 4K signal is produced at the source using special (and very expensive) 4K cameras. But some 4K signals are made using regular cameras and then converted to 4K using a type of upgrade conversion software. I don't know what type of signal is being used for the golf tournament. But, in my opinion, the whole 4K system has not lived up to it's expectations.

PoolBrews 03-15-2024 07:26 AM

I can see a very noticeable difference. Colors are more vibrant, picture is sharper, and much easier to follow the golf ball in flight. You should be able to see that easily on a 75" TV.

The ability to see 4K is not limited to the sets ability to receive and display 4K, but also it's ability to render the 4K signal on a screen. Cheaper sets can't render a 4K signal much better than they can a 1080P signal.

There are varying levels of picture quality on TV's. Better ones have smaller pixels, better color reproduction, and better black and white levels.. 4K on a $500 75" TV will not be nearly as clear as 4K on $1,500 TV (generally speaking).

dewilson58 03-15-2024 08:01 AM

Some difference, not much.

Some people convince themself of great difference since they spent the money.

:mornincoffee:

biker1 03-15-2024 08:03 AM

When considering the limits of visual accuity, there are some rules of thumb regarding set size and viewing distance. For your size set, you probably can’t discern any differences between 1080p and 2160p source material unless you are sitting 10 feet or closer to the set. This assumes, of course, that the material is truly 2160p and is processed correctly all the way to your screen. I typically sit 12 feet from the set and when I have compared 1080p and 2160p material I can’t see a difference. There could, I suppose, be some HDR- type enhancements that provide better colors.


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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2311062)
The tournament is being shown in 4K, Channel 1353 on Xfinity. Personally, I cannot see much picture improvement. Can you? I have a 75 inch Sony 4K TV and a 4K cable box.


retiredguy123 03-15-2024 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PoolBrews (Post 2311289)
I can see a very noticeable difference. Colors are more vibrant, picture is sharper, and much easier to follow the golf ball in flight. You should be able to see that easily on a 75" TV.

The ability to see 4K is not limited to the sets ability to receive and display 4K, but also it's ability to render the 4K signal on a screen. Cheaper sets can't render a 4K signal much better than they can a 1080P signal.

There are varying levels of picture quality on TV's. Better ones have smaller pixels, better color reproduction, and better black and white levels.. 4K on a $500 75" TV will not be nearly as clear as 4K on $1,500 TV (generally speaking).

I definitely have high quality TV. The golf tournament has a very high quality picture, but all of my HD channels have a similar quality. I just cannot say that the 4K picture is any different from other channels. I suspect that the golf tournament is not native 4K, but an upscaled conversion. Wouldn't they need to use a lot of expensive 4K cameras to broadcast a golf tournament in native 4K?

retiredguy123 03-15-2024 04:28 PM

Now they are having technical problems with the 4K signal. The picture is dark. You actually get a brighter and better picture by changing your TV setting to 1080p.

retiredguy123 03-15-2024 04:46 PM

Lots of complaints on the Internet about the 4K signal. Best to switch to the 1080p signal.

charlieboy 03-16-2024 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2311062)
The tournament is being shown in 4K, Channel 1353 on Xfinity. Personally, I cannot see much picture improvement. Can you? I have a 75 inch Sony 4K TV and a 4K cable box.

I have a Sony Bravia 4K TV. It upconverts 1080p broadcasts to simulate 4K. When I watch a so-called actual 4k broadcast I can't see any difference.

retiredguy123 03-16-2024 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieboy (Post 2311800)
I have a Sony Bravia 4K TV. It upconverts 1080p broadcasts to simulate 4K. When I watch a so-called actual 4k broadcast I can't see any difference.

That may be what I am experiencing. But, if a 4K TV upconverts from 1080p to 4K, why do you need an upconverted 4K broadcast? Even the football games that were advertised as 4K admitted that they were using upconversion software instead of producing a genuine native 4K signal.

Keefelane66 03-16-2024 11:33 AM

Watching on regular tv looks fine to me. Now back to regular programming.

jedalton 03-16-2024 07:00 PM

me either, no difference


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