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Number 10 GI 07-04-2020 04:33 PM

Calling Someone A Nazi
 
Calling someone a Nazi because you don't like their political/social/personal beliefs totally diminishes what Nazis and Nazi Germany was like and reflects the name caller's lack of intelligence and wilfull ignorance. I have read numerous books by holocaust survivors, watched many, many documentaries on the holocaust and have personally visited the Dachau death camp. There is no way a person can understand how brutal and savage it was unless they lived it. I know I can only imagine what it was like.

In one book I read it told of how the Sonderkommando, death camp prisoners in work groups that were forced with threats of their own death to dispose of gas chamber victims, would take live babies that survived the gas and swing them by the feet smashing their heads against a post killing them. It was either this or throw a live baby into the ovens. I can go on with other stories like this but I hope you get the point.

If I were a death camp surviving Jew, a Gypsy, a homosexual, or a political prisoner it would seriously anger me to see the name Nazi used just for political character assassination against a person who is nothing like a Nazi.

TexaninVA 07-04-2020 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1797790)
Calling someone a Nazi because you don't like their political/social/personal beliefs totally diminishes what Nazis and Nazi Germany was like and reflects the name caller's lack of intelligence and wilfull ignorance. I have read numerous books by holocaust survivors, watched many, many documentaries on the holocaust and have personally visited the Dachau death camp. There is no way a person can understand how brutal and savage it was unless they lived it. I know I can only imagine what it was like.

In one book I read it told of how the Sonderkommando, death camp prisoners in work groups that were forced with threats of their own death to dispose of gas chamber victims, would take live babies that survived the gas and swing them by the feet smashing their heads against a post killing them. It was either this or throw a live baby into the ovens. I can go on with other stories like this but I hope you get the point.

If I were a death camp surviving Jew, a Gypsy, a homosexual, or a political prisoner it would seriously anger me to see the name Nazi used just for political character assassination against a person who is nothing like a Nazi.


You're correct.

If one is making an argument, and the person you're talking to calls you a "Nazi" (or "racist" or various other terms) that's 24 carat proof their mental tank has run out of gas.

They can't argue coherently, or use reason to rebut, but they remember back to kindergarten and know how to call someone a name.

Humorous actually ... albeit unintentional.


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Velvet 07-04-2020 04:50 PM

It shows lack of ability to articulate. My father was put in jail as a soldier because he refused to do what the (real) Nazi’s told him to do. Their inhumanity to man can’t be described. I find it just silly for the term to be used by ignorant individuals.

Bucco 07-04-2020 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1797797)
You're correct.

If one is making an argument, and the person you're talking to calls you a "Nazi" (or "racist" or various other terms) that's 24 carat proof their mental tank has run out of gas.

They can't argue coherently, or use reason to rebut, but they remember back to kindergarten and know how to call someone a name.

Humorous actually ... albeit unintentional.


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Name calling...even making up cute names seems to be popular.

You are right...it does, in fact, replace honest open discussion

Number 10 GI 07-04-2020 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1797807)
It shows lack of ability to articulate. My father was put in jail as a soldier because he refused to do what the (real) Nazi’s told him to do. Their inhumanity to man can’t be described. I find it just silly for the term to be used by ignorant individuals.

My wife's uncle was a lower ranking officer in the WWII German army. He served with a childhood friend and was ordered to execute his friend. It was late in the war when things were going bad for the Nazis and his friend was too vocal about the futility of fighting any longer. Her uncle couldn't kill his friend so they both deserted and surrendered to the Allies.

LoisR 07-04-2020 06:44 PM

You can't deny the truth. Leadership has responsibilities. One is honesty. Another is freedom of speech. Restrain or manipulate either and one begins to mimic Nazi leadership philosophy.

tophcfa 07-04-2020 07:30 PM

If someone stood in front of my golf cart and called me a nazi (and other obscenities as well) I would very quickly become really upset. In fact, I might even risk damaging my golf cart to bump the obnoxious idiot out of the way, and hopefully shut them up for a little while.

anothersteve 07-04-2020 07:30 PM

What ever happened to "I know you are ..but what am I" ? Life was sooo much simpler back then

Steve

Gulfcoast 07-04-2020 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1797882)
If someone stood in front of my golf cart and called me a nazi (and other obscenities as well) I would very quickly become really upset. In fact, I might even risk damaging my golf cart to bump the obnoxious idiot out of the way, and hopefully shut them up for a little while.

And that is exactly the reaction that they are trying to provoke. When someone starts to verbally assault you and prevent you from getting away from them by standing in front of your golf cart, that is not peaceful and that is no longer a protest. That's an attack.

JGVillages 07-04-2020 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1797882)
If someone stood in front of my golf cart and called me a nazi (and other obscenities as well) I would very quickly become really upset. In fact, I might even risk damaging my golf cart to bump the obnoxious idiot out of the way, and hopefully shut them up for a little while.

If my golf cart was blocked I would pick up my phone and at first mimic dialing 911 and ask (no one at first) to dispatch the police. If that didn’t work I would do it for real. If I was legitimately threatened I would defend my self. If they were just slinging names I would just laugh at their stupidity and move on.

Number 10 GI 07-04-2020 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 1797868)
You can't deny the truth. Leadership has responsibilities. One is honesty. Another is freedom of speech. Restrain or manipulate either and one begins to mimic Nazi leadership philosophy.

Who is restricting freedom of speech or manipulating it? Only in your imagination.

tophcfa 07-04-2020 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1797890)
If my golf cart was blocked I would pick up my phone and at first mimic dialing 911 and ask (no one at first) to dispatch the police. If that didn’t work I would do it for real. If I was legitimately threatened I would defend my self. If they were just slinging names I would just laugh at their stupidity and move on.

You have way more patience than I do. I guess that’s why I never became a doctor, I have no patients.

mamamia54 07-04-2020 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1797883)
What ever happened to "I know you are ..but what am I" ? Life was sooo much simpler back then

Steve

Or

I’m rubber your glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.

Good ole days!

GOLFER54 07-05-2020 05:06 AM

The word Nazi, and Racist are so overused in calling someone who disagrees with another persons thinking is used to provoke a reaction. Best way to deal with these type of insults is to realize that person who says such hateful words is ignorant and should be ignored, which in turn they will get ZERO attention.

DMoring 07-05-2020 05:35 AM

That was probably the single most horrific act that's been done against man. Nobody should be accused of being a Nazi because they have different political views from your own.


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