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8isenough 01-19-2014 09:01 AM

"Stupid Rule" means Rory finishes 2nd
 
Imagine how Rory McIlroy feels:
On Saturday he was docked a two stroke penalty for not taking full relief after his ball was in ground under repair. Sunday he finished 2nd at HSBC Championship, 1 stroke behind winner Pablo Larrazabal.

Video of McIlroy calling Rule 25-1 kind of stupid
Rory Reacts to 2-Stroke Penalty Abu Dhabi HSBC 2014 | Golf Channel

zcaveman 01-19-2014 12:35 PM

Rules are rules no matter how stupid they are.

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tpop1 01-19-2014 01:11 PM

Lots of "stupid" rules in golf that IMHO should be changed.

Such as:
-Ball in footprint in trap cannot be moved,
-Ball in unfilled divot on course cannot be moved,(even Jack Nicklaus thinks this should be changed)
-Man made spike marks on green cannot be fixed, but ball marks can.

Essentially and man made problem for which there is no relief!

Pros do not usually have to deal with these issues as they have people fixing them up or rules for relief from them.

justjim 01-19-2014 01:31 PM

Can't feel "bad" for a Pro Goler who does not know the rules of golf. Maybe Rory learn something----when there is "doubt" call over a rules official.

Polar Bear 01-19-2014 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpop1 (Post 814823)
Lots of "stupid" rules in golf that IMHO should be changed.

Such as:
-Ball in footprint in trap cannot be moved,
-Ball in unfilled divot on course cannot be moved,(even Jack Nicklaus thinks this should be changed)
-Man made spike marks on green cannot be fixed, but ball marks can.

Essentially and man made problem for which there is no relief!

Pros do not usually have to deal with these issues as they have people fixing them up or rules for relief from them.

I tend to agree with some, but I think the spike mark rule is probably a good one. The pros would be smoothing the path to the hole endlessly.

BarryRX 01-19-2014 04:42 PM

I don't understand the rule. It seems to me that he took relief properly with his ball, but his stance was still partially in a ground under repair area. I didn't see anything in 25-1 that had anything to do with a golfers stance.

dillywho 01-19-2014 06:43 PM

Sorry
 
We don't have to agree with rules to be affected by them or abide by them whether in golf or traffic (speed comes to mind). That's why they are called rules. Penalties are how lessons are learned whether it be strokes in golf or tickets for traffic infractions.

getdul981 01-20-2014 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 815014)
We don't have to agree with rules to be affected by them or abide by them whether in golf or traffic (speed comes to mind). That's why they are called rules. Penalties are how lessons are learned whether it be strokes in golf or tickets for traffic infractions.


Now you've quit preaching and gone to meddling.

fred53 01-28-2014 07:27 AM

Look for "complete relief"...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 814958)
I don't understand the rule. It seems to me that he took relief properly with his ball, but his stance was still partially in a ground under repair area. I didn't see anything in 25-1 that had anything to do with a golfers stance.

in the rule book. It means no part of stance may be in the hazard. Many of the finer points aren't in the little $1 book or rules by the USGA. They are in the many volumed decisions of the rules.

fred53 01-28-2014 07:29 AM

Even I know about "complete relief" ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 8isenough (Post 814622)
Imagine how Rory McIlroy feels:
On Saturday he was docked a two stroke penalty for not taking full relief after his ball was in ground under repair. Sunday he finished 2nd at HSBC Championship, 1 stroke behind winner Pablo Larrazabal.

Video of McIlroy calling Rule 25-1 kind of stupid
Rory Reacts to 2-Stroke Penalty Abu Dhabi HSBC 2014 | Golf Channel

from a ground under repair area and I've never made gazillions as does Rory. Everyone has lapses and his result in greater loss because he stands to make greater gains....no...I don't feel bad for Rory and neither should anyone else...he has it all...

BarryRX 01-28-2014 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred53 (Post 819666)
in the rule book. It means no part of stance may be in the hazard. Many of the finer points aren't in the little $1 book or rules by the USGA. They are in the many volumed decisions of the rules.

Thanks for the explanation. I figured that had to be why he was penalized, but as you said, my little rules book didn't list anything about the golfers stance.

rubicon 01-28-2014 01:59 PM

Rules are rules and that' the way it is unless of course your the guy that is getting penalized then well then you want someone to take a second look. Oh the other exception unless your tiger woods

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 01-28-2014 02:35 PM

Nothing stupid or obscure about that rule. It's happened to several players in the tour over the years. What's stupid is a player who is aware of the basic rules that the game is played under.

graciegirl 01-28-2014 02:44 PM

The rules of golf are what makes the game. They didn't pick on him. Rules come into play to keep things fair.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 01-28-2014 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 819875)
The rules of golf are what makes the game. They didn't pick on him. Rules come into play to keep things fair.

Exactly. In this case, the player had the option of taking relief or not. He could have chosen not to take relief and played the ball where it lay. Once he decided to take relief, he must take relief from the condition. To do otherwise amounts to taking a preferred lie.


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