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Villages PL 04-19-2014 12:37 PM

New Harvard Study: "Teens who smoke pot at risk for later schizophrenia, psychosis
 
This Harvard study was published in the Journal Of Nuroscience. As I heard it explained on the radio, 1 to 7 joints per week can cause permanent brain damage in young people whose brains are not yet fully developed. The average IQ is about 100 and smoking pot can cause a permanent decline of about 8 points. If one starts with a lower than average IQ, they could end up with a near moron IQ.

Some teens already smoke pot. But if it becomes legal for adults, it will only encourage more teenage pot smoking, not less. Anything that becomes more commonly used will seem more acceptable. And it will be more available too.

To learn more, search the following: Teens who smoke pot at risk for later schizophrenia, psychosis

Will this change anyones mind? Duh? :shrug:

Golfingnut 04-19-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 864638)
This Harvard study was published in the Journal Of Nuroscience. As I heard it explained on the radio, 1 to 7 joints per week can cause permanent brain damage in young people whose brains are not yet fully developed. The average IQ is about 100 and smoking pot can cause a permanent decline of about 8 points. If one starts with a lower than average IQ, they could end up with a near moron IQ.

Some teens already smoke pot. But if it becomes legal for adults, it will only encourage more teenage pot smoking, not less. Anything that becomes more commonly used will seem more acceptable. And it will be more available too.

To learn more, search the following: Teens who smoke pot at risk for later schizophrenia, psychosis

Will this change anyones mind? Duh? :shrug:

I will ask the same of seniors that drink alcohol.
NIHSeniorHealth: Alcohol Use and Older Adults - How Alcohol Affects the Body
Will this change anyones mind? Duh? :shrug:

kittygilchrist 04-19-2014 01:00 PM

heck, edited...so I can say scuze me....I didn't see word "pot" on first read...

IMO, nicotine is a treatment for schizophrenia.
I learned firsthand from social work w/victims of schiz.
Others have noticed the effect too:
Nicotine Therapy for Schizophrenia? | Psych Central News

Golfingnut 04-19-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 864652)
IMO, nicotine is a treatment for schizophrenia.
I learned firsthand from social work w/victims of schiz.
Others have noticed the effect too:
Nicotine Therapy for Schizophrenia? | Psych Central News

What I take from your post is, let the professionals handle this. I think marijuana has more uses in medical treatment than does vodka, yet, I rarely hear seniors calling for it to be outlawed.

Villages PL 04-19-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 864643)
I will ask the same of seniors that drink alcohol.
NIHSeniorHealth: Alcohol Use and Older Adults - How Alcohol Affects the Body
Will this change anyones mind? Duh? :shrug:

Changing the subject is a good technique. Should I bite? Nah. I think we all know the risks of drinking alchohol. And we're not talking about medical marijuana. We're talking about legalizing marijuana and how it will most likely become more commonly used by teenagers.

If teens see their grandparents, parents, older siblings, Aunts and Uncles etc. smoking pot, it will seem harmless and fun to them. And it will be more available. It will be everywhere. This will envitably result in many more teens smoking pot, as the stigma will be gone. So there will likely be many more brain dammaged teens to look forward to in the future.

Golfingnut 04-19-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 864673)
Changing the subject is a good technique. Should I bite? Nah. I think we all know the risks of drinking alchohol. And we're not talking about medical marijuana. We're talking about legalizing marijuana and how it will most likely become more commonly used by teenagers.

If teens see their grandparents, parents, older siblings, Aunts and Uncles etc. smoking pot, it will seem harmless and fun to them. And it will be more available. It will be everywhere. This will envitably result in many more teens smoking pot, as the stigma will be gone. So there will likely be many more brain dammaged teens to look forward to in the future.

Your right.

Villages PL 04-19-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 864652)
IMO, nicotine is a treatment for schizophrenia.
I learned firsthand from social work w/victims of schiz.
Others have noticed the effect too:
Nicotine Therapy for Schizophrenia? | Psych Central News

Wouldn't it be better to not develop schizophrenia in the first place?

Golfingnut 04-19-2014 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 864679)
Wouldn't it be better to not develop schizophrenia in the first place?

It would appear that pot does Not cause skits.

Does Marijuana Use Cause Lasting Schizophrenia, Psychosis, or Other Mental Disorders? - Medical Marijuana - ProCon.org

TheVillageChicken 04-19-2014 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 864638)
This Harvard study was published in the Journal Of Nuroscience. As I heard it explained on the radio, 1 to 7 joints per week can cause permanent brain damage in young people whose brains are not yet fully developed. The average IQ is about 100 and smoking pot can cause a permanent decline of about 8 points. If one starts with a lower than average IQ, they could end up with a near moron IQ.

Some teens already smoke pot. But if it becomes legal for adults, it will only encourage more teenage pot smoking, not less. Anything that becomes more commonly used will seem more acceptable. And it will be more available too.

To learn more, search the following: Teens who smoke pot at risk for later schizophrenia, psychosis

Will this change anyones mind? Duh? :shrug:

I have read the report, and all it measured was physical changes to the brain. The only correlation drawn to specific disorders was that in those disorders, physical changes to the brain were observed. IQ is not mentioned at all in the report. Additionally, all the pot smokers in the study were also heavier drinkers than the control group.

Golfingnut 04-19-2014 02:11 PM

Hummmm. Maybe we should think twice and post once. If you have more posts than properly researched thoughts, maybe that should be reversed. All kidding aside, let the professionals come up with the solution to this.

Villages PL 04-19-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 864681)

Did you read your own link? If you scroll down to where they have "Pro and Con" you will see both opinions. Some doctors say, "yes, there is a causal relationship." And some say there is no firm causal relationship.

This new Harvard study that I posted above may be more conclusive, leaving the others outdated.

At any rate, if it is an unsettled question, why should anyone risk permanent brain damage?

Golfingnut 04-19-2014 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 864706)
Did you read your own link? If you scroll down to where they have "Pro and Con" you will see both opinions. Some doctors say, "yes, there is a causal relationship." And some say there is no firm causal relationship.

This new Harvard study that I posted above may be more conclusive, leaving the others outdated.

At any rate, if it is an unsettled question, why should anyone risk permanent brain damage?

I hear yo and believe your assumptions are correct, but I want medical marijuanna approved. Legalization for all will do harm to millions just like alcohol but less than so many prescription drugs already in use. I don't know the answere, hence my preaching to allow the professionals to make this call. You and I may be wrong.

DougB 04-19-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 864657)
What I take from your post is, let the professionals handle this. I think marijuana has more uses in medical treatment than does vodka, yet, I rarely hear seniors calling for it to be outlawed.

Lou, where would we find a professional pot head?:jester:

rubicon 04-19-2014 03:02 PM

Don't you just love experts. Does anyone believe that perhaps many have built-in confirmation bias?

Experts told me back in the 1980's that I was totally wrong when I told them that there is a mind-body connection. In the early 90's they found the connection.

Nicotine is said to be good for reducing schizophrenia but experts also said it was good in healing ulcerative colitis. Yet some of the most expensive treatments fail. and so can nicotine replace all of the psychotropic drugs?

Some experts say that people who are heavy drinkers are more susceptible to brain trauma. does this also apply to drug users?

Experts now say that people are not using enough salt.

Experts now say coffee is good for you

Experts now say that people over 65 should eat more protein including both vegetable and meat protein.

Eggs were once off people's diet now they are in favor again

Beware of sentences that start out with "Ëxperts say"

Golfingnut 04-19-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 864714)
Lou, where would we find a professional pot head?:jester:

I have three or four family members with years of expertise in the field (no pun).


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