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LAVNDR 01-23-2008 09:12 PM

Fact or Fiction - Attacks at ****?
 
There are a number of stories going around about two attacks on women in the :removed by admin: parking lot at night. Supposed to be fairly recent. Can anyone verify this and if it is true, how can we compel the Villages to warn people. ???

(Administrator's note: I have removed the location name from this post so as to not further rumors. I have removed entire posts about this twice before. If anybody has any conclusive information that you would be willing to stand behind, then please come forth. Otherwise I will remove this post also. Tony)

JohnN 01-23-2008 10:23 PM

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is there not a newspaper story to verify stuff like this?

jjdees 01-23-2008 11:22 PM

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Easily resolved. Call the local sheriff's office.

redwitch 01-24-2008 12:23 AM

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I can say that I know the store and I was working there at the time one of the alleged incidents occurred. No one, from the top to the bottom knew a thing about it. Given that, I'd say it was a rumor of the ugliest kind.

tony 01-24-2008 03:59 AM

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That seems like a good reason to keep the name of the store out.


golfnut 01-24-2008 04:05 AM

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This subject has come up and been removed more times than I can believe, jj said it best, call the sheriff, period, Tony do your thang.

Ooper 01-25-2008 03:39 AM

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Whether it is true or not... you won't see "bad" publicity for TV in the Daily Sun!

DDoug 01-25-2008 10:42 AM

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By removing part of the original post you have limited freedom of speech which by the way is against our constitutional right. If you intend to do this dont allow the post at all. You have just given me dought about your forum.

Talk Host 01-25-2008 11:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DDoug
By removing part of the original post you have limited freedom of speech which by the way is against our constitutional right. If you intend to do this dont allow the post at all. You have just given me dought about your forum.

Wrong! This is the perfect example of running through the theater yelling fire when there is none. Freedom of speech does not give you the right to spread untruths.

If you are offended by this, and you now have doubts about TOTV, I suggest you find a forum you like better.

Jan Kokochak, Administrator
Talk of The Villages

Russ_Boston 01-25-2008 12:56 PM

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Delete the whole post Jan.

No place for viral info of any type.

rdkent 01-25-2008 03:46 PM

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Your right to free speech in the Constitution applies only to the government restricting your speech. DOES NOT apply to business, individuals, etc. One of my pet peeves is people insisting the Constitution guarantees their right to say anything to anyone anywhere with no consequences.

Taltarzac 01-25-2008 03:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rdkent
Your right to free speech in the Constitution applies only to the government restricting your speech. DOES NOT apply to business, individuals, etc. One of my pet peeves is people insisting the Constitution guarantees their right to say anything to anyone anywhere with no consequences.

What's that quote-- "Freedom of the Press belongs to he who owns one"? Forget who said that? :dontknow: TOTV's administrators have the right to delete whatever they want. Just look at what the Villages Daily Sun prints and does not print.

Call the Sumter County Sheriff is the best advice. I assume this thread is about something that allegedly happened in TV but at one of the grocery store parking lots. I have seen nothing about it on any of the major broadcasting channel affiliates-- NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox-- which would pick something like this up pretty quickly.

SteveFromNY 01-25-2008 04:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Talk Host
This is the perfect example of running through the theater yelling fire when there is none. Freedom of speech does not give you the right to spread untruths.

:agree:

However, IMHO, leaving the post here but deleting the store name doesn't really accomplish anything. Now you're saying "FIRE", but leaving out where it is. Wouldn't matter to me where the alleged incident occured as it would be indicative of a serious safety issue in TV, not something that was related to a particular store.

Apparently, it didn't happen or someone would have heard about it. And Red was there when someone says it happened and didn't hear?

Delete the whole post! No reason to leave it up.

tony 01-25-2008 08:49 PM

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I had already deleted similar posts twice, as I explained. I left that post to at least let others know the topic has been posted yet again, so somebody would not post again and so I would not have to delete yet another.

I asked anybody with definitive information to come forth. One did.

Now we have strong reason to think the story is untrue, the location name is not revealed, and I am a little happier.


Taltarzac 01-25-2008 08:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tony
I had already deleted similar posts twice, as I explained. I left that post to at least let others know the topic has been posted yet again, so somebody would not post again and so I would not have to delete yet another.

I asked anybody with definitive information to come forth. One did.

Now we have strong reason to think the story is untrue, the location name is not revealed, and I am a little happier.


Good call. Sometimes crimes like the alleged one are not reported to the police, but that does not sound like this would be one of those such situations if rumors have been flying about this on TOTV. The victim is usually too ashamed to go to the police. I think if one of the various victim support groups were involved they would make sure steps to prevent further crimes were taken if there were any truth to this rumor.


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