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PR1234 07-01-2014 01:58 PM

Uneven cement lanai flooring
 
We are considering buying a home that has VERY uneven cement (enclosed) lanai flooring. Anyone have a clue has to who could fix that? Also, do you think we would need permits if it is inside? All suggestions would be appreciated....Thanks!

downeaster 07-01-2014 02:36 PM

You might try The Villages Warranty Department. If your house is new they should take care of it. If it is a resale they can tell you who poured that concrete and you can contact them. They would not knowingly refer you to a shoddy contractor. My comments are based on my positive experience with the Warranty Department while my house was under warranty as well as getting their advice after the warranty had expired.

bonrich 07-01-2014 03:50 PM

There is material available that is used for leveling floors prior to installing tile. Any tile installer should be able to do this.

PR1234 07-01-2014 04:49 PM

This is an older home that had an addition put onto the lanai. It is an estate and 'no one' seems to know the clue to this mystery.... as why one side would be 2" lower than the other side????

Topspinmo 07-01-2014 04:58 PM

My only guess would be for drainage. Is the sloop away from the house? If this was open structure and then closed in the sloop could be for draining water away from the house?? that's my guess????

Happydaz 07-01-2014 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PR1234 (Post 901214)
This is an older home that had an addition put onto the lanai. It is an estate and 'no one' seems to know the clue to this mystery.... as why one side would be 2" lower than the other side????

The floor is not level so the rainwater that comes through the screens can drain off the lanai floor. My new house had a 2 1/2 inch difference from the side next to the house to the outside edge of the lanai. That is a 2 1/2 inch difference in ten feet. (The lanai is 10' by 30'.) I wasn't aware of this when I was getting estimates to enclose my lanai with glass doors until one of the companies showed me how these lanai floors pitch. He recommended I level the floor with cement when I installed the glass doors. I went with his company. Other glass enclosure companies didn't include floor evening in their quotes as they don't do that kind of work. A level floor is nice as you walk out from your house into the lanai without a step down and the floor is level and your chairs and sofa are no longer on a pitch.

karostay 07-01-2014 05:17 PM

Call an reputable tile installer ask their opinion .
I'm sure it's no big deal unless the floor is way off there is a product called liquid level
used to level a floor in such instances prior to installing tile or even linoleum flooring
Good Luck

PR1234 07-01-2014 05:59 PM

The lanai was never open, completely surrounded with windows so I don't think it would be for a drainage issue??

PR1234 07-01-2014 06:07 PM

Also....by being uneven, what I meant was ONE side is 2" higher than the other side so the liquid level wouldn't work. I think it just needs a LOT of cement to bring one side up to the other, can you do that??

ganative 07-01-2014 06:20 PM

Is it possible it settled? If that's the case (not sue what's it's called) I've seen where they drill a hole on the lower side and pump concrete type substance at high pressure underneath forcing that side up. Just my 2 cents. May want to verify the addition had a permit pulled and CO issued.

dirtbanker 07-02-2014 06:11 AM

"ganative" has given a good suggestion, but before you try leveling the floor by pumping concrete beneath; check the tops of the windows or the bottom of fascia to see if the top of the walls and edge of roof are out of level. (If the top of walls / fascia is level now, and you raise the concrete floor that the walls are setting on by pumping concrete beneath, the top of walls / fascia will not be level any longer). This should help you decide if you need to pump up the floor or use a leveling topcoat to the existing slab.

I don't believe it is your responsibility to determine weather or not a permit had been pulled originally for the lanai. If the current work required a permit; I would pull a permit and get that work inspected, and go on with life with your lanai that has "passed inspection".

Happinow 07-02-2014 07:53 AM

Keep looking
 
Have you thought about looking for another home? There are so many beautiful homes available for sale. There are 6 homes for sale right on my street. Two of them are golf course lots, one with a pool. Three of them back up to Pinellas. You may want to reconsider your decision if your faced with a potential major problem right from the start. Just a thought.

Warren Kiefer 07-02-2014 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PR1234 (Post 901143)
We are considering buying a home that has VERY uneven cement (enclosed) lanai flooring. Anyone have a clue has to who could fix that? Also, do you think we would need permits if it is inside? All suggestions would be appreciated....Thanks!

The correct term is concrete. Cement is the product that binds the sand and stone together. I cannot help myself, I am a retired highway engineer. I believe a decorative acrylic application would work. Check with Florida Deck and Pool.

PR1234 07-02-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 901506)
The correct term is concrete. Cement is the product that binds the sand and stone together. I cannot help myself, I am a retired highway engineer. I believe a decorative acrylic application would work. Check with Florida Deck and Pool.

LOL, thanks Warren...I stand corrected CONCRETE! Happinow, my husband would LOVE for me to find something else! I'm beginning to think maybe I had better:-( Thanks all:bowdown::bowdown:

ganative 07-03-2014 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dirtbanker (Post 901352)
"ganative" has given a good suggestion, but before you try leveling the floor by pumping concrete beneath; check the tops of the windows or the bottom of fascia to see if the top of the walls and edge of roof are out of level. (If the top of walls / fascia is level now, and you raise the concrete floor that the walls are setting on by pumping concrete beneath, the top of walls / fascia will not be level any longer). This should help you decide if you need to pump up the floor or use a leveling topcoat to the existing slab.

I don't believe it is your responsibility to determine weather or not a permit had been pulled originally for the lanai. If the current work required a permit; I would pull a permit and get that work inspected, and go on with life with your lanai that has "passed inspection".

definitely not his/her responsibility, I mention this for two reasons. First if extension was done with w/o permit it could be a sign foundation wasn't done to code, many times I have seen where a lack of Co has held a closing/settlement up.


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