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Schaumburger 07-10-2014 08:53 PM

Property Tax & Homeowner's Insurance Questions
 
Regarding property taxes if an owner is not homesteading: Is there a way to calculate how much property tax will be based on the sale price of the home if a buyer is not homesteading? A Village sales agent told me to figure the property tax will be approximately 1.5% of the sale price of the home. Does that number sound correct?

Regarding homeowner's insurance if an owner is going to rent out the house for part of the year: A Village sales agent said that to save money on homeowner's insurance, an owner who is going to rent out the house for part of the year, and then stay in the home during non-rental times, should not mention to their insurance company that the home is being rented out for part of the year. The owner should just state to their insurance company that this is a vacation home that the owner will be using part of the year. But is it legal not to tell one's homeowner's insurance company that a house will be rented out for part of the year?

For example, say I don't tell my insurance company that I am renting out my home during snowbird season. If an accidental fire breaks out while the house is being occupied by tenants, could my insurance company deny paying a claim because the house was temporarily occupied by tenants, and I did not disclose this information to the insurance company to save money on my homeowner's insurance premium?

Edjkoz 07-10-2014 09:08 PM

I don't know the answer to the first question but a friend of mine had experience with the second. He rented his house, did not tell his insurance company, and it burned down. The insurance company denied payment and he is still fighting it

Phanatic Luvr 07-10-2014 09:35 PM

I wouldn't take any chances. It's always best to protect yourself. What if a tenant would get hurt while in your home????

Schaumburger 07-10-2014 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Phanatic Luvr (Post 905558)
I wouldn't take any chances. It's always best to protect yourself. What if a tenant would get hurt while in your home????

I would have to agree with you. I am just a TV wannabee, so I have no idea what the difference is in the homeowner's insurance premium if an owner lives in the house year round versus if the owner rents it out part of the year, but I don't think I would want to take a chance with trying to get one over on an insurance company. I think it was rather irresponsible of the TV sales agent to suggest such a thing to a potential buyer.

GatorFan 07-10-2014 09:52 PM

There are companies that will write secondary/rental. Do not lie...that is misrepresentation and fraud.

Villageshooter 07-11-2014 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 905544)
Regarding property taxes if an owner is not homesteading: Is there a way to calculate how much property tax will be based on the sale price of the home if a buyer is not homesteading? A Village sales agent told me to figure the property tax will be approximately 1.5% of the sale price of the home. Does that number sound correct?

Regarding homeowner's insurance if an owner is going to rent out the house for part of the year: A Village sales agent said that to save money on homeowner's insurance, an owner who is going to rent out the house for part of the year, and then stay in the home during non-rental times, should not mention to their insurance company that the home is being rented out for part of the year. The owner should just state to their insurance company that this is a vacation home that the owner will be using part of the year. But is it legal not to tell one's homeowner's insurance company that a house will be rented out for part of the year?

For example, say I don't tell my insurance company that I am renting out my home during snowbird season. If an accidental fire breaks out while the house is being occupied by tenants, could my insurance company deny paying a claim because the house was temporarily occupied by tenants, and I did not disclose this information to the insurance company to save money on my homeowner's insurance premium?

just remember those agents for the village have a job to do, and that is to sell homes :::: even to the point to advise you to commit insurance fraud!

OBXNana 07-11-2014 05:13 AM

If it's a pre owned property, the current owner can give you an estimate on the tax if the Agent doesn't know. We've purchased many houses in different states and have always obtained the tax amount from our Agent. That's something I thought was always provided. Our sales person in The Villages gave us the tax amount when we purchased in February 2014.

Not only are we honest with rental property and insurance, we spend the extra amount for an umbrella policy. Insurance coverage isn't a good place to skimp to save a few dollars.

DougB 07-11-2014 06:47 AM

I believe that is one sales agent you shouldn't do business with.

graciegirl 07-11-2014 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 905648)
I believe that is one sales agent you shouldn't do business with.


What he said.

AND...agents don't have to say things like that to get you to buy here. People are standing in line to buy here.

dewilson58 07-11-2014 07:31 AM

All responses are solid.

One of the great benefits of ToTV.

njbchbum 07-11-2014 09:55 AM

I thought when we purchased our house in Lady Lake in 2009 we paid just a hair over 2% of the purchase price - but rates may have changed since then. If you are considering property in Lake County, perhaps you can find out by call ing the property appraiser's office:

Main Office: 320 W. Main Street Tavares, FL 32778-3814
Monday - Friday 8:30 a.m. - 5 p.m.
(352) 253-2150

Lady Lake: 902 Avenida Central The Villages, FL 32159
Wednesday 8:30 a.m. - 12 p.m. 1 p.m. - 4:30 p.m.
(352) 750-4545

I scanned their website and could not find the answer to your question: Welcome to The Property Appraiser's Office for Lake County, Florida

If looking in Sumter County, their local office info is:
8033 East C-466 Oxford, Florida 34484
phone 352-569-6800
9:30 am - 4:00 pm (Mon-Fri) closed 12:00pm - 1:00pm for lunch

And about the insurance - why even take the chance of not being honest and not being covered? That sales agent should be ashamed and admonished!

TheVillageChicken 07-11-2014 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 905544)
Regarding property taxes if an owner is not homesteading: Is there a way to calculate how much property tax will be based on the sale price of the home if a buyer is not homesteading? A Village sales agent told me to figure the property tax will be approximately 1.5% of the sale price of the home. Does that number sound correct?


Sales price has nothing to do with property tax which is based on the assessed value of the property, not the selling price. What is based on the sales price is real estate transfer taxes or documentary stamp taxes. This is paid by the seller @ .07% of the sales price. If there is a mortgage, the buyer pays a .035% document tax on the amount of the mortgage.

jflynn1 07-11-2014 10:19 AM

homeowners insurance
 
The answer to your question is YES

Brugi 07-11-2014 03:15 PM

As far as the property tax goes, it depends on the county you live in.
Each county has it's own millage rate.
My home is located in Sumter county. We just closed on the 27 th. We are not homesteading either.
It is my understanding that when the taxes comes up for renewal, you take the millage rate and multiply that by the units per thousand.
Example. Lets say you paid $200,000 for your home.
The millage rate for sumter county is 12.96.
Multiply 200 ( units per thousand ) by 12.96 ( $2586.00 ) and that would be your property tax.
You will also need to add in the fire tax, plus any cdd fees.

Hope this helps

rubicon 07-11-2014 03:24 PM

To the OP: I would not suggest that you publicly expose this real estate gent's name but I would suggest that you contact this agent and explain that said advise was actually inducing you to commit fraud and that it could have lead to serious consequences.. That agent in order to further success in selling a home thought only of monetary gain. This is very unethical behavior unprofessional.


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