Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 938587)

If you have a good program that works, than you really don't have to sell it. People will know that your diet and your exercise plan is doin' you good and you will get to sit in your chair and be happy that you outlived all of the people that disagreed with you.

I doubt very much if that radio personality or most of us reading this are going to switch to an all natural plant based diet. It is way too extreme for most people to follow.

Sometimes I think you must think about a big wedge of peach cobbler with a dollop of vanilla ice cream. Some say that is better than sex. I don't, but some do.

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 938568)

By now, everyone has heard the following argument: "You can't believe the so-called food "experts" because they keep changing their minds about what's 'good' and what's 'bad' for your health." This is an argument that is promoted by the processed food industry to turn people against food science. They have a high percentage of the population hooked on processed foods and they don't want science undoing all their hard work. So this is their way of trying to discredit nutrition science.

A popular radio personality, with a stake in food sales, frequently invokes this argument. He once asked in feigned frustration, "Who knows what's healthy?"

I say the above argument is completely phony, and here's why. There's no area of science that I know of that doesn't have disagreements, and yet, he only raises this issue with food science.

Economics: Look at all the many disagreements between "experts". Is he confused by it? No. He firmly believes in free-market economics.

Climatology: "Experts" disagree all the time. Is he confused? No, he clearly comes down on one side of the global warming argument.

Environmental disagreements among "experts" are many. Is he confused? No.

Evolution: There have been disagreements among evolutionists. And there are ongoing disagreements between evolutionists and creationists. Is he confused by any of this? No.

Conclusion: No matter how difficult or complicated the science may be, in any field from economics to climatology, he has no problem making up his mind between all the conflicting statements made by "experts". He only has a problem with food science because he has a stake in food sales. He can't say that processed foods are healthy, so he seeks to do the next best thing. He does his best to discredit nutrition science.

Note: This popular radio personality really exists; I purposely left out his name. The point I'm making is how the system works to shape public opinion.

Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 938613)

I assume these noes and comments after the statement are yours. I would appreciate it if you would highlight or change colors on your comments so we could see who is who.

Z

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 938646)

Everything is mine except what I put in quotation marks.

Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 938737)

That does not make sense. If everything is your but what is in quotes, then there is nothing in those statements but "experts" and "Who knows what's healthy?" Are the rest all your words? If that is true, why do you take things out of context and turn them around?

Z

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 938745)

As harry Truman once wisely expressed and I paraphrase. I wish I could have a one armed economist.

Indeed all fields of study desire one armed experts.

However the implications in the food and medical community directly affect the masses and hence while science is never settled there needs to be some narrowing of the disputes.

The debate concerning GMO food products vis a vis organic, grass fed ,etc has serious implications. Feeding this ever increasing populations requires the need for innovative methods. GMO has been ongoing for many years.

Drug side affects and over treated medical issues leave people confused. so the upside down changes resulting from ACA are going to create more problems and the governments demands for electronics health records is placing enormous pressure on doctors.

In my view those claiming they have the answers are doing so plainly out of conceit

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 939146)

Speaking of self-proclaimed food "experts"........

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 939151)

I have never called myself a food expert - far from it. If you assumed that I think I am, that's your problem, not mine.

Red herring: Change the subject by attacking the OP.

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 939178)

Maybe they assumed you are an "expert" because you use this forum as a blog.