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billethkid 10-24-2014 03:27 PM

Non US citizens voting in national elections?
 
Does the title of the thread concern or bother anybody but me?

Read this article:

Could non-citizens decide the November election? - The Washington Post

Now what do you think about non US citizens voting in national (or any other) elections?

I do not have all the information I need yet, however on the surface it is not appropriate for NON US CITIZENS to vote. How do they get registered in the first place?

There must be something I obviously do not understand.
Party lines need not be espoused. I just want to understand how it is non US citizens are allowed to vote.

And I am sure I will not be the only one who is concerned about the abuse that is potential in such a system.

dbussone 10-24-2014 03:32 PM

There was a report on the news this regarding this very issue in NC. Apparently a significant number of illegals (reported to be approximately 4000) were given the ability to vote when processed for their NC drivers license.

ugotme 10-24-2014 03:39 PM

Not only the potential but, as indicated, already goi!ng on.

Where is the screening? Perhaps seperate DL's for non-citizens?

Somehow must be able to prove citizenship?

Can not really converse on this - never really looked into it!

TheVillageChicken 10-24-2014 04:07 PM

What about the folks who vote in two different states? I'll bet some of them are reading this thread.

What about the "Voting Dead?"

Polar Bear 10-24-2014 04:22 PM

Like the old Chicago cliche...vote early, vote often. :)

tedquick 10-24-2014 04:58 PM

Non US citizens voting in national elections?

Non-citizens being allowed to vote adds one more nail to our nation's coffin. Although I am not a historian, I do not know of another country in world history that has spiraled downward as quickly as ours has these last 6 years.

manaboutown 10-24-2014 04:59 PM

We have been circling the drain for the past six years.

jflynn1 10-24-2014 05:18 PM

I do not think we have to worry based on this article and report based on the responses of only 828 self-reported non-citizens.

njbchbum 10-24-2014 05:59 PM

The vote of a non-citizen invalidates the vote of a citizen.

njbchbum 10-24-2014 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflynn1 (Post 957719)
I do not think we have to worry based on this article and report based on the responses of only 828 self-reported non-citizens.

Please do an internet search on illegals voting in us elections or non-citizens voting in us elections and I hope reading the articles gives you greater pause to re-think the issue and why folks should worry.

Florida seems to pop-up in a number of such articles!

redwitch 10-24-2014 06:21 PM

Sadly, this has been going a lot longer than just the past six years. It became an issue the day states let individuals register to vote when obtaining a driver's license. Proof of citizenship seemed not to be an issue. When I moved here twelve years ago, the DMV knew I wasn't born in the U.S. But was still willing to register with no proof I was eligible. Look how many convicted felons now vote. Can't blame everything on this administration.

billethkid 10-24-2014 06:44 PM

we the people should be demanding our lawmakers go forward with strict voter identification at the polls. This would not only weed out the non citizens but would also catch what ever number of other kinds of cheating.

I have no sympathy for the politically driven excuses of who this type voter ID might affect negatively....mostly the incumbents!!!!!

There are all kinds of ways to make sure everybody who is a legal citizen of the USA gets what ever they need to vote. Let's not have the politicians continue to keep the system loose and undisciplined.

Why is this country so :censored: timid about ENFORCEMENT???

Core values continue to sink to new lows every single year. Our freedoms are being choked down right before our eyes. We have even re-defined what is illegal or not. We continue to ban everyday words, phrases or sayings that have been a part of our culture since the conception of this country.

I am glad I came through America when I did and I am concerned how my grandchildren and those that follow will never savor the freedom and greatness America once was.

Back to the voting......it is quite simple if one is not a US citizen....no vote!!!
If one cannot show identification at the polls that one is who they say they are and a legal citizen.....no vote!!!! How much easier can it be than that?

sunnyatlast 10-24-2014 06:47 PM

Here's a report cited by some of the main news outlets online.

"They are working in tandem to decouple the legal standing to vote from American citizenship.

As a result of these efforts, there are several municipalities in the United States that currently allow non-citizens to vote in local elections. Moreover, legislation to allow non-citizens to vote has been introduced in a number of states and localities including Washington, D.C., San Francisco, and New York City."

Allowing Non-Citizens to Vote in the United States? Why Not | Center for Immigration Studies

Sandtrap328 10-24-2014 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 957762)
Here's a report cited by some of the main news outlets online.

"They are working in tandem to decouple the legal standing to vote from American citizenship.

As a result of these efforts, there are several municipalities in the United States that currently allow non-citizens to vote in local elections. Moreover, legislation to allow non-citizens to vote has been introduced in a number of states and localities including Washington, D.C., San Francisco, and New York City."

Allowing Non-Citizens to Vote in the United States? Why Not | Center for Immigration Studies


Nothing at all wrong with allowing non-citizens to vote in local elections. The non-citizens (not illegals) are residents and deserve a say in their local issues. Do not confuse non-citizens with illegals.

sunnyatlast 10-24-2014 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 957766)
Nothing at all wrong with allowing non-citizens to vote in local elections. The non-citizens (not illegals) are residents and deserve a say in their local issues. Do not confuse non-citizens with illegals.

It's not about just local elections.


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